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ESO+ Members Should Get to Jump Ahead of Non-ESO+ Members in the PvP Queue

MikeB
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One of the benefits of ESO+ should be that you get to jump ahead of non-ESO+ members in the PvP queue. Those that pay the monthly sub should get honest benefits in this game. The current "benefits" we get with ESO+ is not close to being enough.
Edited by MikeB on September 23, 2015 1:08PM

ESO+ Members Should Get to Jump Ahead of Non-ESO+ Members in the PvP Queue 304 votes

Yes
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No
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Other
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  • JD2013
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    No
    And I say this as an ESO Plus member.
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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    No
    Voted "No" because I don't have ESO+.

    This poll will reflect quite exactly how many of us are subscribed or not. Nothing more.
  • MikeB
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    Yes
    JD2013 wrote: »
    And I say this as an ESO Plus member.

    Can you elaborate as to why you say no?
  • Leandor
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    I hate to be that one, but I'll do it anyways for ships and giggles:

    P2W!!!!!1111eleventyone
  • terrordactyl1971
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    Yes
    I kinda agree.

    I know in Battlefield 4 that premium members get the jump on queues, that works well. There really should be a queue advantage if you are investing $10 per month into the franchise
  • Gidorick
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    Yep... and I don't have ESO+. In fact, this was one of my suggestions in this thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150450/eso-subscription-benefits-suggestions/p1
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  • MikeB
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    Yes
    Leandor wrote: »
    I hate to be that one, but I'll do it anyways for ships and giggles:

    P2W!!!!!1111eleventyone

    How is it pay to win? Several other games do this already. If you pay the monthly sub you should get an actual benefit. How easy it is to make false claims on the internet. It is in no way pay 2 win.
    Edited by MikeB on September 23, 2015 1:14PM
  • Leandor
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    MikeB wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    I hate to be that one, but I'll do it anyways for ships and giggles:

    P2W!!!!!1111eleventyone

    How is it pay to win? Several other games do this already. If you pay the monthly sub you should get an actual benefit. How easy it is to make false claims on the internet. It is in no way pay 2 win.
    And off it goes *queue evil maniac laugh and finger to the teeth*
  • Mickey_Ox
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    No
    Eso+ member here and its a no from me, while this system works well in F2P models it wont translate well to B2P games as non ESO+ members have paid the same money for the game as myself , so why should they have to queue for a game they paid for when i dont. Its everyone queues or nobody does.
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  • MikeB
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    Yes
    Leandor wrote: »
    MikeB wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    I hate to be that one, but I'll do it anyways for ships and giggles:

    P2W!!!!!1111eleventyone

    How is it pay to win? Several other games do this already. If you pay the monthly sub you should get an actual benefit. How easy it is to make false claims on the internet. It is in no way pay 2 win.
    And off it goes *queue evil maniac laugh and finger to the teeth*

    Thats what I thought. Troll elsewhere. This is why we cant have an honest discussion about this game on these forums
  • Mighty_oakk
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    lol
  • MikeB
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    Yes
    Mickey_Ox wrote: »
    Eso+ member here and its a no from me, while this system works well in F2P models it wont translate well to B2P games as non ESO+ members have paid the same money for the game as myself , so why should they have to queue for a game they paid for when i dont. Its everyone queues or nobody does.

    As already mentioned several other B2P games already have a system like this. Where those that pay for the "premium" service get to jump ahead in game queue and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people buy and play those game, i.e Battlefield as mentioned above is one.
  • Rosveen
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    Yes
    Of course. Subscribers should always have priority in access queues. One could make a case for similar privilege after spending X crowns in the crown store while not being susbscribed, but whatever the outcome of this discussion would be, it doesn't change the answer to the original question.
  • Artfuldodger
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    I would have no problem with eso plus members being given priority, I do not have eso plus either.
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  • terrordactyl1971
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    Maybe not a full queue jump, but let in 2 ESO+, then 1 non ESO+ and so on

    As it is, ESO+ is little more than purchasing 1500 crowns with a slight XP bump
  • MikeB
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    One could make a case for similar privilege after spending X crowns in the crown store while not being susbscribed, but whatever the outcome of this discussion would be, it doesn't change the answer to the original question.

    Thats a good suggestion. You could get the same benefit per month if you spend 1500 or more crowns in the crown store per month.

  • JD2013
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    And I say this as an ESO Plus member.

    Certainly.

    Whilst I agree that ESO + members could certainly do with some extra perks, I don't feel that this should be one. People are already starting to shout about how they think that this game is becoming pay to win, and this would be another notch on the slippery road towards such things.

    Priority queuing would be a bad idea. Things like a crafting bag? Better idea.
    Sweetrolls for all!

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    Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    How would you handle the group queue?
    Do you skip the queue if the leader has eso+, if the majority of the group has eso+ or only if everyone has eso+?
  • dlepi24
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    No
    We definitely need more perks than we have now, but this isn't one of them.
  • Pangnirtung
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    No
    So if I buy the DLC being a non plus member I should still be put behind the queue? Baloney.
  • terrordactyl1971
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    Yes
    How would you handle the group queue?
    Do you skip the queue if the leader has eso+, if the majority of the group has eso+ or only if everyone has eso+?

    2 separate queues. Let in 2 from the ESO+ queue, then 1 from the none ESO+ queue and repeat the cycle etc

  • phairdon
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    No. Because anyone without a subscription had to purchase IC through the crown store.
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  • MikeB
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    Yes
    How would you handle the group queue?
    Do you skip the queue if the leader has eso+, if the majority of the group has eso+ or only if everyone has eso+?

    I would say a majority would have to have ESO+. Certainly not just the leader as that will be abused and not everyone because that would leave someone people without being able to queue with some friends.
  • Leandor
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    MikeB wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    MikeB wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    I hate to be that one, but I'll do it anyways for ships and giggles:

    P2W!!!!!1111eleventyone
    How is it pay to win? Several other games do this already. If you pay the monthly sub you should get an actual benefit. How easy it is to make false claims on the internet. It is in no way pay 2 win.
    And off it goes *queue evil maniac laugh and finger to the teeth*
    Thats what I thought. Troll elsewhere. This is why we cant have an honest discussion about this game on these forums
    While you could certainly think of my previous comments as trolling, it is in reality only a statement of how ridiculous I think this proposal is.

    Since subscriptions are self-renewing, I am very sure the majority of those that play in Cyrodiil and IC are subscribers, so this priority queue would safe you nothing substantial.

    Since this game has to be financed somehow, and sales in crown store contribute much more to that than subscription, implementing this would be a nonsense business decision.

    I was too lazy to type that out and feel it is pointless to try and argue (to use the buzz-word: entitlement).
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    No
    Dont see a real reason to do this. Investing $60 into the game should let people have equal access. Paying $30 for DLC should give equal access. Subbing is just putting yourself on a budget where others pay as they go.
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Yes
    How would you handle the group queue?
    Do you skip the queue if the leader has eso+, if the majority of the group has eso+ or only if everyone has eso+?

    2 separate queues. Let in 2 from the ESO+ queue, then 1 from the none ESO+ queue and repeat the cycle etc

    Avoids queue priority being thrown in non-member faces.
  • Slurg
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    No
    Go tell those people who spend more on crown packages per month than you do on your sub that you deserve to have priority access over them while spending less. See how that goes over.
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    No
    Leandor wrote: »
    Since subscriptions are self-renewing, I am very sure the majority of those that play in Cyrodiil and IC are subscribers, so this priority queue would safe you nothing substantial.

    I fail to see the cause=>effect link between subs being self-renewable and PvP players being subscribed.
    Leandor wrote: »
    sales in crown store contribute much more to that than subscription

    What and how do you know about that ? Pure speculation imho.



    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on September 23, 2015 1:33PM
  • Turelus
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    No
    We want to keep the game accessible and viable to many, not start divides in the community.

    You sub if you support the game, simple as that.
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  • MikeB
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    Leandor wrote: »
    MikeB wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    MikeB wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    I hate to be that one, but I'll do it anyways for ships and giggles:

    P2W!!!!!1111eleventyone
    How is it pay to win? Several other games do this already. If you pay the monthly sub you should get an actual benefit. How easy it is to make false claims on the internet. It is in no way pay 2 win.
    And off it goes *queue evil maniac laugh and finger to the teeth*
    Thats what I thought. Troll elsewhere. This is why we cant have an honest discussion about this game on these forums
    While you could certainly think of my previous comments as trolling, it is in reality only a statement of how ridiculous I think this proposal is.

    Since subscriptions are self-renewing, I am very sure the majority of those that play in Cyrodiil and IC are subscribers, so this priority queue would safe you nothing substantial.

    Since this game has to be financed somehow, and sales in crown store contribute much more to that than subscription, implementing this would be a nonsense business decision.

    I was too lazy to type that out and feel it is pointless to try and argue (to use the buzz-word: entitlement).

    Getting sick of the word entitlement being thrown around just because someone wants something out of the money they spend. I dont have ESO+, I canceled it after 3 months, One because you're lucky if you get the 1500 crowns promised and it takes weeks and more work than its worth to get them if not auto-issued with your monthly renewal, Two the benefits they do give with ESO+ arent even close to being enough for the $15 a month sub fee for console.
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