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Remove battle spirit from the game, do your job, and fix the game
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✭✭BaldusMageezack wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »From what i am seeing with this post and his replies are quite sad. It seems he is salty and has a damaged ego he needs to try and fix. The "nerf" needs to be there. sure they do need to fix things but its no where near as bad as it use to be. Also snipe cant hit you 3 times hell i get popped once then i do something called dodging. may want to try it. As for you speaking for the "rest of us" i hate to say it but you don't, you speak for those few who want to steam roll people with a 3 button combo.
Dude what are you talking about? My issue is with how broken the game is and how they keep nerfing skills when they are OP. I'll post some video footage of my gameplay but I can assure you I don't get beat by snipe spam nor by wrecking blows.
ok, how about this, first you learn to edit your damned post instead of spamming replies? you can use @name it works just as well, second i was going off the FIRST post and the 2 replies by YOU after it. You can complain all you want all it will do is make you seem like one of those who join the forums to simply cry.
Edit: And judging by your stars and post history i was correct in my assumptions.
Nah he also joined to make childish posts on my wall. Take a look at what a champ he is
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✭xEcthelionx wrote: »The fact that you have to debuff each player's damage, healing and damage shields shows that there is a glaring flaw in the game. Rather than fix these issues you blanket nerfed everyone as a bandaid but it is going to backfire.
For example, snipe can land three attacks simultaneously. Fix it, to not do so is laziness.
This game had real potential but it has gone down the drain. You cater to terrible players, whiners and laziness. WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.
I and every other competent individual that played this game as a hobby is not going to drop 20hrs+ of life re-gearing and rebuilding their class from the ground up every patch because you consistently listen to whiners that can't always get their way mindlessly zerging across the map. I am not going to farm trash mobs in the sewers for a chance, to roll a significantly skewed amount of badly structured gear, so that I can battle a VR4 battle leveled to stats that aren't realistic and maybe beat him in 20 minutes before his zerglings show up. If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up and get heated why do you even have higher levels? You give people a crutch so that they can compete and then the competition leaves because there is no point anymore.
WoW never had had Battle Spirit but it had Resilience as a stat ... which was exactly the same. Your points are not valid.Xantaria - Lead of Chimaira
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✭✭✭✭✭If Battle Spirit stays, they should fix it at first
You can cause Battle Spirit to bug, allowing you to be not affected by it in Cyrodiil. Makes you squishy, but makes you 1 shot everything. Edited by Dracane on September 20, 2015 9:44AMAuri-El is my lord,
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*** weekend all in all but this sure made up for it. Hilarious.xEcthelionx wrote: »
Stopped reading here. You're an ***.xEcthelionx wrote: »If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up
Really? I actually put a few hours into playing and getting better everyday and acquiring the sets I need to become the best character I can be and you think you, who puts no time or effort into the game, should be rewarded by being "on par?" Maybe you should take a trip to Russia and figure out why communism failed.0 -
NGP✭✭✭Nope, don't do that!
and welcome back to be a mortal again.
Edited by NGP on September 20, 2015 11:27AM1 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭The Op has actually made some very sensible suggestions, for example, his comments on Proxy Det.
What follows is 2 pages of blind disagreement with what he said, ignoring completely the actual suggestions.
People - read the suggestions - they are good ones.3 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭xEcthelionx wrote: »For example, snipe can land three attacks simultaneously. Fix it, to not do so is laziness.
This game had real potential but it has gone down the drain. You cater to terrible players, whiners and laziness. WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.
Actually, snipes are really easy to avoid. Bows are already lacking in a few areas compared to other weapon types (ie. bow damage is nerfed). The fact that people who get shot with Snipe 3 times in a row clearly speaks volume about how they operate in a battlefield and that issue is called L2P. Please don't ask any nerfs to bow or anything else because there's been a considerable amount of damage reduction as of now. Learn. To. Play. Please.Edited by Sneaky-Snurr on September 20, 2015 12:56PMThe Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
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✭✭✭✭✭Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »Learn. To. Play. Please.
omg dude, did you not read his post? He's a competent individual.4 -
PF1901✭✭✭
C'est le ton qui fait la musique.The Op has actually made some very sensible suggestions, for example, his comments on Proxy Det.
What follows is 2 pages of blind disagreement with what he said, ignoring completely the actual suggestions.
People - read the suggestions - they are good ones.0 -
Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭omg dude, did you not read his post? He's a competent individual.
Lols. You get an awesome for that.Edited by Sneaky-Snurr on September 20, 2015 12:58PMThe Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
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✭✭✭✭✭xEcthelionx wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »I and every other competent individual . .
Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks
^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.
I agree that hiding and mashing snipe three times makes you a bad player but at the same time if you think wrecking blow is OP you are part of the problem. Wrecking blow is by far the easiest skill to avoid in the game, why don't you beg for them to nerf every class until there isn't a game left to play?
I agreed with you until this. Wrecking Blow is a troll skill, not just because it's so easy for these clowns to stack Weapon Damage until you get hit for 10K or even 12K, but because of the PERMA CC effect that often happens when someone is spamming it on you. Most of the time when I get gap-closed and WB-spammed, I can't even get up off the ground, no matter how many times I click "break free".#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
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✭I don't know about the attitude or if Battle leveling is being confused with Battle Spirit but -
I play 90% solo and I absolutely hate "Battle Spirit" +5000 health 50% reduction in healing, 50% reductions in shields - Seems more like a punishment than a buff to me, especially to my Templar.Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »I and every other competent individual . .
Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks
^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.
I agree that hiding and mashing snipe three times makes you a bad player but at the same time if you think wrecking blow is OP you are part of the problem. Wrecking blow is by far the easiest skill to avoid in the game, why don't you beg for them to nerf every class until there isn't a game left to play?
I agreed with you until this. Wrecking Blow is a troll skill, not just because it's so easy for these clowns to stack Weapon Damage until you get hit for 10K or even 12K, but because of the PERMA CC effect that often happens when someone is spamming it on you. Most of the time when I get gap-closed and WB-spammed, I can't even get up off the ground, no matter how many times I click "break free".
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NGP✭✭✭I don't know about the attitude or if Battle leveling is being confused with Battle Spirit but -
I play 90% solo and I absolutely hate "Battle Spirit" +5000 health 50% reduction in healing, 50% reductions in shields - Seems more like a punishment than a buff to me, especially to my Templar.
Cyrodiil is at war. Can't expect to sololy defeat an entire army.0 -
Saltypretzels✭✭✭✭When I went from v13 to v14, I lost 5k health, 10k magic, and 5k stamina. Everything got significantly harder.
I really don't like battle leveling either.0 -
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✭✭✭I don't know about the attitude or if Battle leveling is being confused with Battle Spirit but -
I play 90% solo and I absolutely hate "Battle Spirit" +5000 health 50% reduction in healing, 50% reductions in shields - Seems more like a punishment than a buff to me, especially to my Templar.
Cyrodiil is at war. Can't expect to sololy defeat an entire army.
Yeah. That might be the problem. The game should not be adjusted to accommodate people who solo in Cyrodiil. Hopefully they will add an arena for those people.0 -
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✭@xEcthelionx All tho your tone was bad I completely agree with the battle leveling point. I hate that you are rewarded with my resources then you would ever have till you hit VR14 as it stands want to grind a toon pick up shy shards and head to a cave in Cyrodiil mobs will never be too high or low level and you will have more resources and power then when in PvE.
Low levels should die in PvP with no real fight the power to life on the battle should be earn not given. I fought a VR10 Templar that just used the healing Jabs back to back to back. Now on a Tank with 45k health 10k magic and Stamina Siphoning Attacks for recovery had Sword and Board and restro with Quick Siphon and Dark Shades down then full fight Swallow Souls and taking 55% more heals from my heals and 40% more from everyone else took five minutes to run him out of stamina I knock him down right back up that same fight 1v1 with VR14-16 Templar takes like 30 seconds.Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
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NGP✭✭✭DaveMoeDee wrote: »I don't know about the attitude or if Battle leveling is being confused with Battle Spirit but -
I play 90% solo and I absolutely hate "Battle Spirit" +5000 health 50% reduction in healing, 50% reductions in shields - Seems more like a punishment than a buff to me, especially to my Templar.
Cyrodiil is at war. Can't expect to sololy defeat an entire army.
Yeah. That might be the problem. The game should not be adjusted to accommodate people who solo in Cyrodiil. Hopefully they will add an arena for those people.
That I agree. Some arenas for them.0 -
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✭I don't know about the attitude or if Battle leveling is being confused with Battle Spirit but -
I play 90% solo and I absolutely hate "Battle Spirit" +5000 health 50% reduction in healing, 50% reductions in shields - Seems more like a punishment than a buff to me, especially to my Templar.
Cyrodiil is at war. Can't expect to sololy defeat an entire army.
Who ever said I wanted to. Now if there is no army there that is another thread.
Don't make my posts out to be something they are not. I was agreeing with the PvP groupers in that this solo player for one doesn't like it either. If the heals and shields are this bad for myself I can only imagine how bad they are for someone trying to heal a group.
Edit: or for someone trying to tank for a group either.Edited by Casdha on September 20, 2015 9:11PMProud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%0 -
xEcthelionx✭✭✭I don't know about the attitude or if Battle leveling is being confused with Battle Spirit but -
I play 90% solo and I absolutely hate "Battle Spirit" +5000 health 50% reduction in healing, 50% reductions in shields - Seems more like a punishment than a buff to me, especially to my Templar.
Cyrodiil is at war. Can't expect to sololy defeat an entire army.
Yeah the point is not to be able to god mode, don't get me wrong I was frustrated when I made the post but I think what the solo players like myself want is just the ability to fight 1vX and win every once in a while. Right now the game only caters to zergfest. I'm surprised skilled players like Sypher still bother with this garbage.0 -
xEcthelionx✭✭✭The Op has actually made some very sensible suggestions, for example, his comments on Proxy Det.
What follows is 2 pages of blind disagreement with what he said, ignoring completely the actual suggestions.
People - read the suggestions - they are good ones.
Thank you. I come across as frustrated because quite frankly I am and it is definitely reflected in my tone. I love this game and I am just incredibly disappointed that the developers are catering to the whining masses about things like burst dps which are easy to avoid if you use your brain. Now that burst dps is gone the zerg is always going to win vs small groups.1 -
xEcthelionx✭✭✭Sneaky-Snurr wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »For example, snipe can land three attacks simultaneously. Fix it, to not do so is laziness.
This game had real potential but it has gone down the drain. You cater to terrible players, whiners and laziness. WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.
Actually, snipes are really easy to avoid. Bows are already lacking in a few areas compared to other weapon types (ie. bow damage is nerfed). The fact that people who get shot with Snipe 3 times in a row clearly speaks volume about how they operate in a battlefield and that issue is called L2P. Please don't ask any nerfs to bow or anything else because there's been a considerable amount of damage reduction as of now. Learn. To. Play. Please.
They are and I agree. I don't have a problem with snipes but for the casuals that do the issue isn't to nerf everyone's dps it is to fix the animation. I agree that the bow tree is lacking as well so rather than nerfing damage of the entire tree they should have built up the other abilities. For example. there are more than 50% of the abilities in the total skills available that are just completely useless... "That issue is called L2P" my thoughts exactly... You can either block snipes, I reflect them as a DK, or you can roll dodge them... Don't assume that because I call for the developers to take notice on unrealistic mechanics that I am a bad player and an unreasonable person.0 -
xEcthelionx✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »DigitalShibby wrote: »xEcthelionx wrote: »I and every other competent individual . .
Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks
^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.
I agree that hiding and mashing snipe three times makes you a bad player but at the same time if you think wrecking blow is OP you are part of the problem. Wrecking blow is by far the easiest skill to avoid in the game, why don't you beg for them to nerf every class until there isn't a game left to play?
I agreed with you until this. Wrecking Blow is a troll skill, not just because it's so easy for these clowns to stack Weapon Damage until you get hit for 10K or even 12K, but because of the PERMA CC effect that often happens when someone is spamming it on you. Most of the time when I get gap-closed and WB-spammed, I can't even get up off the ground, no matter how many times I click "break free".
The issue isn't the large amount of DPS, it takes about 1s to cast and they have to sacrifice large amounts of health and sustain to get it to hit for 12k+; the issue is exactly as you call it "PERMA CC." Why that isn't fixed is beyond me...1 -
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I should have taken more time to write it. I realize I came off as frustrated because quite frankly I am. The changes they keep making are to the benefit of the facerollerz who zerg not the skilled groups of 5-6. I would really like to see an arena system and I would love to fight some of the PC players if that were possible as well but the 20 man groups running around in IC sewers is not something I will partake in.0 -
xEcthelionx✭✭✭I think OP is upset his gank build doesn't work anymore...
I would charge head on into groups of players and fight until I died or couldn't kite to an area where I could turn the terrain to my advantage. I don't sit in the shadows and snipe spam or pride myself killing people off of horses. I enjoyed fighting groups of 6+ with 2 or 3 good team mates and being able to win once in a while, that's all. I think that you are just so happy you can run around with 23 players and that is fine, to each his own. But while you have your realm and style of play I believe that mine should be catered to as well and I am allowed to voice that opinion after having spent $60 on the game.1 -
xEcthelionx✭✭✭It's another '*snif*, I'm not creative, smart or experienced enough to cope a specific situation and that's why ZOS s*cks bigtime, *crying*' thread.
Maybe you can invite your mother to play together so she can protect you against the evil cats?
It's not an insult. Like I feel it, in some areas of the game you better do not walk alone.
You have absolutely also no clue how they create races and their attributes.
They do have several tools to simulate fights and stuff. Before they unleash something in the wild, they tested it for hours, days, weeks and even months.
These tools are not perfect.
But they also have terabytes of raw data of us players and our behaviour. With some datamining they know exactly what is going wrong and what not.
That's why they sometimes change stuff a bit.
This approach works much better than the anecdotal evidence of one crybaby that desperately needs his mama questing ESO.
I never said I could not do well in the patch that is an assumption you have made without using critical reasoning to actually read my post.
Why even post here if you aren't going to contribute to discussion? You are big and bad over an internet keyboard where you can flex your ego but I still feel sorry for you. Hopefully you find better things to do with your life.0
