Remove battle spirit from the game, do your job, and fix the game

xEcthelionx · September 2015

The fact that you have to debuff each player's damage, healing and damage shields shows that there is a glaring flaw in the game. Rather than fix these issues you blanket nerfed everyone as a bandaid but it is going to backfire.

For example, snipe can land three attacks simultaneously. Fix it, to not do so is laziness.

This game had real potential but it has gone down the drain. You cater to terrible players, whiners and laziness. WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.

I and every other competent individual that played this game as a hobby is not going to drop 20hrs+ of life re-gearing and rebuilding their class from the ground up every patch because you consistently listen to whiners that can't always get their way mindlessly zerging across the map. I am not going to farm trash mobs in the sewers for a chance, to roll a significantly skewed amount of badly structured gear, so that I can battle a VR4 battle leveled to stats that aren't realistic and maybe beat him in 20 minutes before his zerglings show up. If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up and get heated why do you even have higher levels? You give people a crutch so that they can compete and then the competition leaves because there is no point anymore.

DigitalShibby · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2015

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.

Alucardo · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up

Stopped reading here. You're an ***.

Yonkit · September 2015

Removing it would break PvP, it needs to be there, however, the current statistics of it are *** moronic and a monument to ZoS's inability to fix a god damned thing, Battle Spirit isn't a band-aid, this patch is.

Speely · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

The fact that you have to debuff each player's damage, healing and damage shields shows that there is a glaring flaw in the game. Rather than fix these issues you blanket nerfed everyone as a bandaid but it is going to backfire.

How would you have "fixed" the "issues" of PvP damage, healing, and shields, and what is the root flaw of the game?

BaldusMageezack · September 2015

He's mad he can't proxy detonation+Dragon leap and one shot 5 people at the same time. Sorry OP that took no skill you literally had to press 3 buttons two of which were at once.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

Forgive me, you keep wasting your money and time on a game that caters to whiners by blanket nerfing everybody instead of fixing the actually issues and I'll go on living the good life. I won't speak for you, you don't deserve it.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.

I agree that hiding and mashing snipe three times makes you a bad player but at the same time if you think wrecking blow is OP you are part of the problem. Wrecking blow is by far the easiest skill to avoid in the game, why don't you beg for them to nerf every class until there isn't a game left to play?

xEcthelionx · September 2015

Alucardo wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up

Stopped reading here. You're an ***.

Really? I actually put a few hours into playing and getting better everyday and acquiring the sets I need to become the best character I can be and you think you, who puts no time or effort into the game, should be rewarded by being "on par?" Maybe you should take a trip to Russia and figure out why communism failed.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

Speely wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

The fact that you have to debuff each player's damage, healing and damage shields shows that there is a glaring flaw in the game. Rather than fix these issues you blanket nerfed everyone as a bandaid but it is going to backfire.

How would you have "fixed" the "issues" of PvP damage, healing, and shields, and what is the root flaw of the game?

The root flaw of the game is that there is no flexibility within the class and "other" skill lines. Half of the skills are used by 95% of players and the other half are never used at all.

I would have fixed the PvP damage by keeping it where it is and giving players extra health, slightly buffing armors and more base hp.

For example, proximity detonation should have had its base damage nerfed by 50% and its bonus damage buffed by 10% up to 200% to bust zergs.

Healing on other players needed to be nerfed not self-healing.

Damage shields should be characterized as major or minor with most of them having an option for a morph into one or the other and not being able to stack two majors i.e. igneous + healing ward or hardened ward + healing ward.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

He's mad he can't proxy detonation+Dragon leap and one shot 5 people at the same time. Sorry OP that took no skill you literally had to press 3 buttons two of which were at once.

I know you are salty I own you every time I see you in PvP and that you can't beat me 1v1 but I really appreciate you as a fan. If I didn't come into your campaign, take your buff server from you and farm you at your own gate in your own buff server I doubt you would be here right now. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

BaldusMageezack · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

BaldusMageezack wrote: »

He's mad he can't proxy detonation+Dragon leap and one shot 5 people at the same time. Sorry OP that took no skill you literally had to press 3 buttons two of which were at once.

I know you are salty I own you every time I see you in PvP and that you can't beat me 1v1 but I really appreciate you as a fan. If I didn't come into your campaign, take your buff server from you and farm you at your own gate in your own buff server I doubt you would be here right now. Enjoy the rest of your evening.

Actually I invite you to do that anytime you like I sat there and farmed you coming through our gate. Best time ever the AP came to me

SLy_Kyti · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

The fact that you have to debuff each player's damage, healing and damage shields shows that there is a glaring flaw in the game. Rather than fix these issues you blanket nerfed everyone as a bandaid but it is going to backfire.

For example, snipe can land three attacks simultaneously. Fix it, to not do so is laziness.

This game had real potential but it has gone down the drain. You cater to terrible players, whiners and laziness. WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.

I and every other competent individual that played this game as a hobby is not going to drop 20hrs+ of life re-gearing and rebuilding their class from the ground up every patch because you consistently listen to whiners that can't always get their way mindlessly zerging across the map. I am not going to farm trash mobs in the sewers for a chance, to roll a significantly skewed amount of badly structured gear, so that I can battle a VR4 battle leveled to stats that aren't realistic and maybe beat him in 20 minutes before his zerglings show up. If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up and get heated why do you even have higher levels? You give people a crutch so that they can compete and then the competition leaves because there is no point anymore.

I Bolded the part of your complaint I liked the best...Though I am a bit embarrassed to say I have lowered myself to doing just that, running in IC. This one regrets the necessity.

That said your concerns are hidden behind true (and I respect it) anger. Your meanings lost because people are going to react to your tone and not your points. I had to learn to take a step back and cool down before hitting the keyboard. Humor works really well here. But. In the end. ZoS doesn't care. Really. So I mostly play something else.
Good Luck to you.

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.

I agree that hiding and mashing snipe three times makes you a bad player but at the same time if you think wrecking blow is OP you are part of the problem. Wrecking blow is by far the easiest skill to avoid in the game, why don't you beg for them to nerf every class until there isn't a game left to play?

Agree to dis-agree for WB may be easy to dodge from say roll dodging but tell me what do you do when you are out of stamina? Can't roll dodge then and can't break free from the knock back of the WB and by the time you get up the enemy player already used 2 or 3 more WB and then all they have to do is hit that key that has the execute skill to kill you and then your death recap popes up with 3 or 4 WB and the last hit being the 2H skill execute. This is fact cause half of the players in PvP use this cheap tactic for a easy kill they just keep spamming WB till the player is out of stamina then just unleash those last 3 or 4 WB then finally the closing execute and boom a easy kill using a very cheap tactic that proves who really needs to learn to play.

Alucardo · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

Really? I actually put a few hours into playing and getting better everyday and acquiring the sets I need to become the best character I can be and you think you, who puts no time or effort into the game, should be rewarded by being "on par?" Maybe you should take a trip to Russia and figure out why communism failed.

It must be nice to be able to indulge in games every single day. Unfortunately I don't get that luxury, but I do believe I've achieved quite a lot considering. I don't half-ass it, because that wouldn't be fair on my team. What really turned me off your post was the way you speak to people and judge them just because they don't have the ability to spend time every day grinding to VR16, then grinding even longer to obtain the mats required for that insane gear. The time we do have, we want to have fun, not have venom spat at us by some kid crapping his pants over a game.

Ryzaerian · September 2015

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

jircris11 · September 2015

From what i am seeing with this post and his replies are quite sad. It seems he is salty and has a damaged ego he needs to try and fix. The "nerf" needs to be there. sure they do need to fix things but its no where near as bad as it use to be. Also snipe cant hit you 3 times hell i get popped once then i do something called dodging. may want to try it. As for you speaking for the "rest of us" i hate to say it but you don't, you speak for those few who want to steam roll people with a 3 button combo.

Molag_Crow · September 2015

I love the changes, though Wrecking Blow and Snipe should get fixed.

UltimaJoe777 · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.

If you truly feel that way then go play WoW.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

The fact that you have to debuff each player's damage, healing and damage shields shows that there is a glaring flaw in the game. Rather than fix these issues you blanket nerfed everyone as a bandaid but it is going to backfire.

For example, snipe can land three attacks simultaneously. Fix it, to not do so is laziness.

This game had real potential but it has gone down the drain. You cater to terrible players, whiners and laziness. WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.

I and every other competent individual that played this game as a hobby is not going to drop 20hrs+ of life re-gearing and rebuilding their class from the ground up every patch because you consistently listen to whiners that can't always get their way mindlessly zerging across the map. I am not going to farm trash mobs in the sewers for a chance, to roll a significantly skewed amount of badly structured gear, so that I can battle a VR4 battle leveled to stats that aren't realistic and maybe beat him in 20 minutes before his zerglings show up. If you are going to battle level people who haven't put in the time and effort to level up and get heated why do you even have higher levels? You give people a crutch so that they can compete and then the competition leaves because there is no point anymore.

I Bolded the part of your complaint I liked the best...Though I am a bit embarrassed to say I have lowered myself to doing just that, running in IC. This one regrets the necessity.

That said your concerns are hidden behind true (and I respect it) anger. Your meanings lost because people are going to react to your tone and not your points. I had to learn to take a step back and cool down before hitting the keyboard. Humor works really well here. But. In the end. ZoS doesn't care. Really. So I mostly play something else.
Good Luck to you.

You're absolutely right. Nobody wants to look at the blatant issues with the game, they want to troll my frustrations and start arguments with anyone who disagrees with the zerg to win mentality. Thank you for your insight. Any recommendation for a different MMO to play?

xEcthelionx · September 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

WoW never had battle spirit in AV and it was the most successful MMo of all time.

If you truly feel that way then go play WoW.

No thanks I don't have a PC right now. Thanks for the suggestion though.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I love the changes, though Wrecking Blow and Snipe should get fixed.

The entire game should be fixed... if you die to snipe and wrecking blow then you are terrible but that is what people are going to whine about and it will get nerfed next.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

^ what he said I happen to like the reduce damage I atleast now have a fighting chance against the no skill gankers hiding in the corners with there OP cloak or wrecking blow. Now all they gotta do is remove block casting and PvP be in a giant step to the right road.

I agree that hiding and mashing snipe three times makes you a bad player but at the same time if you think wrecking blow is OP you are part of the problem. Wrecking blow is by far the easiest skill to avoid in the game, why don't you beg for them to nerf every class until there isn't a game left to play?

Agree to dis-agree for WB may be easy to dodge from say roll dodging but tell me what do you do when you are out of stamina? Can't roll dodge then and can't break free from the knock back of the WB and by the time you get up the enemy player already used 2 or 3 more WB and then all they have to do is hit that key that has the execute skill to kill you and then your death recap popes up with 3 or 4 WB and the last hit being the 2H skill execute. This is fact cause half of the players in PvP use this cheap tactic for a easy kill they just keep spamming WB till the player is out of stamina then just unleash those last 3 or 4 WB then finally the closing execute and boom a easy kill using a very cheap tactic that proves who really needs to learn to play.

You walk through it, CC them, damage, rinse and repeat.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

Alucardo wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

Really? I actually put a few hours into playing and getting better everyday and acquiring the sets I need to become the best character I can be and you think you, who puts no time or effort into the game, should be rewarded by being "on par?" Maybe you should take a trip to Russia and figure out why communism failed.

It must be nice to be able to indulge in games every single day. Unfortunately I don't get that luxury, but I do believe I've achieved quite a lot considering. I don't half-ass it, because that wouldn't be fair on my team. What really turned me off your post was the way you speak to people and judge them just because they don't have the ability to spend time every day grinding to VR16, then grinding even longer to obtain the mats required for that insane gear. The time we do have, we want to have fun, not have venom spat at us by some kid crapping his pants over a game.

Don't get me wrong I believe you should be able to have a fun experience playing the game but there should be a chasm between people who spend more time playing the game than others. I'd rather it have nothing to do with level and gear and everything to do with skill. There should be different servers, ones for non-max levels and others. I don't want to run you over, I want to run over the Baldus Mcgee baddies because that way I get salty comments on my posts.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

jircris11 wrote: »

From what i am seeing with this post and his replies are quite sad. It seems he is salty and has a damaged ego he needs to try and fix. The "nerf" needs to be there. sure they do need to fix things but its no where near as bad as it use to be. Also snipe cant hit you 3 times hell i get popped once then i do something called dodging. may want to try it. As for you speaking for the "rest of us" i hate to say it but you don't, you speak for those few who want to steam roll people with a 3 button combo.

Dude what are you talking about? My issue is with how broken the game is and how they keep nerfing skills when they are OP. I'll post some video footage of my gameplay but I can assure you I don't get beat by snipe spam nor by wrecking blows.

xEcthelionx · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

From what i am seeing with this post and his replies are quite sad. It seems he is salty and has a damaged ego he needs to try and fix. The "nerf" needs to be there. sure they do need to fix things but its no where near as bad as it use to be. Also snipe cant hit you 3 times hell i get popped once then i do something called dodging. may want to try it. As for you speaking for the "rest of us" i hate to say it but you don't, you speak for those few who want to steam roll people with a 3 button combo.

Dude what are you talking about? My issue is with how broken the game is and how they keep nerfing skills when they are OP. I'll post some video footage of my gameplay but I can assure you I don't get beat by snipe spam nor by wrecking blows.

And also I never said I was for a 3 button combo are you completely devoid of intellect? I said proximity detonation should be fixed in all of my posts but listen its okay. I'm done. I am better than everyone here at the game and I got punished for it. I'll beat you at the next game you try to fail at.

ColoursYouHave · September 2015

Man OP sure is salty.

Does this mean you are leaving?

Can I have your stuff?

jircris11 · September 2015

xEcthelionx wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

From what i am seeing with this post and his replies are quite sad. It seems he is salty and has a damaged ego he needs to try and fix. The "nerf" needs to be there. sure they do need to fix things but its no where near as bad as it use to be. Also snipe cant hit you 3 times hell i get popped once then i do something called dodging. may want to try it. As for you speaking for the "rest of us" i hate to say it but you don't, you speak for those few who want to steam roll people with a 3 button combo.

Dude what are you talking about? My issue is with how broken the game is and how they keep nerfing skills when they are OP. I'll post some video footage of my gameplay but I can assure you I don't get beat by snipe spam nor by wrecking blows.

ok, how about this, first you learn to edit your damned post instead of spamming replies? you can use @name it works just as well, second i was going off the FIRST post and the 2 replies by YOU after it. You can complain all you want all it will do is make you seem like one of those who join the forums to simply cry.

Edit: And judging by your stars and post history i was correct in my assumptions.

BaldusMageezack · September 2015

jircris11 wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

From what i am seeing with this post and his replies are quite sad. It seems he is salty and has a damaged ego he needs to try and fix. The "nerf" needs to be there. sure they do need to fix things but its no where near as bad as it use to be. Also snipe cant hit you 3 times hell i get popped once then i do something called dodging. may want to try it. As for you speaking for the "rest of us" i hate to say it but you don't, you speak for those few who want to steam roll people with a 3 button combo.

Dude what are you talking about? My issue is with how broken the game is and how they keep nerfing skills when they are OP. I'll post some video footage of my gameplay but I can assure you I don't get beat by snipe spam nor by wrecking blows.

ok, how about this, first you learn to edit your damned post instead of spamming replies? you can use @name it works just as well, second i was going off the FIRST post and the 2 replies by YOU after it. You can complain all you want all it will do is make you seem like one of those who join the forums to simply cry.

Edit: And judging by your stars and post history i was correct in my assumptions.

Nah he also joined to make childish posts on my wall. Take a look at what a champ he is

AngryNord · September 2015

DigitalShibby wrote: »

xEcthelionx wrote: »

I and every other competent individual . .

Please don't speak for me in your whine fest thread. Thanks

You're smart enough to know not to feed the trolls.