Tea bagging for all the wrong reasons

Steel_Brightblade · September 2015

As I said originally I found it mildly amusing and odd but in all honesty if you do get annoyed by it or offended I think you may be taking the game just a little too seriously. Let the juveniles have their fun and walk away safe in the knowledge you're a superior human being or orc or whatever;)

digitalucidityub17_ESO · September 2015

That's the one thing with PVP and PVP centered games that's always turned me off on it. PVP itself is fun, but it tends to bring the absolute worst out in people. I see enough of that in life every day, don't need to in the hobbies I enjoy. That said, I'll still go out and do some PVP from time to time, but if I die I don't wait around long enough to see what people do, I'll just pop and make my way back or whatever.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

I see what you mean. Well I've never been teabagged (as I said it's not that common on EU server) and I don't think I'd waste any energy getting mad about it if it happened. Maybe I have been teabagged and didn't even notice. Doesn't make it OK though.

And I'm all for letting the juveniles (and less juveniles) have their fun even if it's not the same kind if fun that I enjoy, but I believe there should be a limit. Remember Skyrim and the debates about non-killable children ? Skyrim is a game, just like ESO, where you kill mobs violently all the time (and visually Skyrim was more violent than ESO). Still the devs decided there would be a limit and children would not be killable. IMHO, it's the same sort of limit that should apply here with teabagging.

I do not expect everyone here to agree with me and I understand that some "teabaggers" do not do it with the very hard intentions I feel they have. All I want is maybe make people think about it, that "mimic-ing r-a-p-e for fun" might not be that insignificant, even in a combat-driven videogame ?

And even those who genuinely find it "funny", they also might consider stopping it out of respect for sensitive people. "Get a thicker skin" is an acceptable argument, but so is "give thinner-skinned people some consideration" .

RAGUNAnoOne · September 2015

hasn't happened to me yet either it is because I rarely play and I play in less crowded campaigns or no one wants to teabag an Argonian unless they are female and in a maid outifit

greenlights6 · September 2015

Been grinding sewers with my guildies, and sometimes we get into some fun scraps. I'm not gonna say there's never any teabagging, but when there is it's called for. Even when we go into a room and there's a group that's been tracking us and we get ambushed, if we happen to bounce back and win we just /clap . I actually don't mind losing fights and/or TV stones if it's a good fight.

And LOL @ the tea-bagging morse code hahaha cracked me up

driosketch · September 2015

In my experience, that is exactly the situation and player who would t-bag.

Players who have had a hard time killing others will gloat when they finally do.

vamp_emily · September 2015

I remember when I first started playing PvP, I would see my enemy move up and down on me all the time. I got my first kill and did the same. The person I killed contacted me and said, "That is not very classy". I responded, "What are you talking about?". They replied, "You T-Bagged me, ....". I had to giggle a little after I found out it was called, "T-Bagging"

Am I the only one that does not get offended by T-Bags or someone calling me a fangirl/fanboy?

When i play PvP I take the game serious, I want to destroy all the ADs and EPs. They are my enemy and i really don't care how they feel if I T-Bag them.

I do remember a moment, where someone from AD was pounding on me, and lucky me one of my alliance members saved me, and we ended up killing him. I walked over and gave the dead AD a T-Bag and then sat in a chair next to him. Oops, Big mistake! His buddy was hiding behind me with a big Axe. In the end, I was the one laying on the ground dead, being T-Bagged.

Enjoy the game don't worry about little things like T-Bagging!
ESO please do not nerf T-Bagging.

Violynne · September 2015

driosketch wrote: »

Players who have had a hard time killing others will gloat when they finally do.

I can't remember what city I was in, but there was a conversation going on about a player who was "rocking" (their words) about all the kills they have in PvP.

I look at the character. Sorc decked out in heavy armor and squeaky voice. Assumption: child/teen player.

As the conversation progressed, they bragged about bagging higher level players.

I decided to chime in with this:
"You're wearing heavy armor as a sorcerer and you're going to try to convince your listeners you're all that? Let's meet in Cyrodiil. I'll show you what a true sorcerer is. I'll even give you a handicap by removing my light armor."

Almost instantly, there was laughter as others listening chimed in. Apparently flustered, the child sorc teleported out of the crowd.

Sometimes, we older fans like to have a little fun.

But no matter how badly someone may deserve it, I will never, ever "tea bag" them.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

vamp_emily wrote: »

I remember when I first started playing PvP, I would see my enemy move up and down on me all the time. I got my first kill and did the same.

You should be careful about blindly imitating other people without even knowing what they're doing or saying. Could get you into trouble in life.

And you're illustrating my point very well : many people pretend to know what they're doing when in fact they're not, they're acting out of pure mimetism. Which is why we should be careful to not make questionable behaviours so widespread that people will copy them without having a clue.

vamp_emily wrote: »

Am I the only one that does not get offended by T-Bags or someone calling me a fangirl/fanboy?

The fact that you don't see any difference between the two shows that you still don't have a clue what you're doing when you teabag.

vamp_emily wrote: »

When i play PvP I take the game serious, I want to destroy all the ADs and EPs. They are my enemy and i really don't care how they feel if I T-Bag them.

... and that's the usual consequence of it all : total lack of feeling and empathy.

For your information, in PvP, the toons you fight are driven by humans, with cultures, personal histories and feelings. The point of the game is to kill the toons, not to humiliate the people. If you take the game seriously, don't pollute it with non-game-related acts like teabagging.

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NateAssassin · September 2015

Ahhh the T-Bag, reminds me of when I would play COD with my friend and he would T-Bag everyone and then I killed him and did the same and he raged.

I remember the last time I T-bagged on ESO, a DK attacked me and my friend and I got the final blow on him, T-bagged him and got a rage whisper saying "Congrats on your first kill".

jcasini222ub17_ESO · September 2015

This doesn't bother me, just disappoints a little because of a lack of creativity. I personally love doing the /sweep emote in keeps. Gotta keep them clean after defense. Or play the lute or use one of the many, many emotes. The t-bag just doesnt seem very creative. I crack up when someone sweeps or shovels or does the hand summoning type thing to me, I find that hilarious.

vamp_emily · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

I remember when I first started playing PvP, I would see my enemy move up and down on me all the time. I got my first kill and did the same.

You should be careful about blindly imitating other people without even knowing what they're doing or saying. Could get you into trouble in life.

And you're illustrating my point very well : many people pretend to know what they're doing when in fact they're not, they're acting out of pure mimetism. Which is why we should be careful to not make questionable behaviours so widespread that people will copy them without having a clue.

Smiles. I don't regret one moment.

SIXR_sCaR · September 2015

vamp_emily · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

vamp_emily wrote: »

I remember when I first started playing PvP, I would see my enemy move up and down on me all the time. I got my first kill and did the same.

You should be careful about blindly imitating other people without even knowing what they're doing or saying. Could get you into trouble in life.

And you're illustrating my point very well : many people pretend to know what they're doing when in fact they're not, they're acting out of pure mimetism. Which is why we should be careful to not make questionable behaviours so widespread that people will copy them without having a clue.

vamp_emily wrote: »

Am I the only one that does not get offended by T-Bags or someone calling me a fangirl/fanboy?

The fact that you don't see any difference between the two shows that you still don't have a clue what you're doing when you teabag.

vamp_emily wrote: »

When i play PvP I take the game serious, I want to destroy all the ADs and EPs. They are my enemy and i really don't care how they feel if I T-Bag them.

... and that's the usual consequence of it all : total lack of feeling and empathy.

For your information, in PvP, the toons you fight are driven by humans, with cultures, personal histories and feelings. The point of the game is to kill the toons, not to humiliate the people. If you take the game seriously, don't pollute it with non-game-related acts like teabagging.

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I think you may have been T-Bagged one to many times. Sorry for your luck.

Trashy Boy · September 2015

LMAO, I've come across this so many times and is sort of expected at some point. It says one of two things, either they are so elated at finally killing you they need to show it or it is an age related thing- like they are 12 years old or 55 years old with serious maturity issues. I have NEVER done it myself.......................perhaps ,..............well...........

RedTalon · September 2015

Belidos wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

Belidos wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

Belidos wrote: »

There's a "right" reason for tea bagging?

Given the forum rules you know better then to ask that.

Just my two crowns

Somebody has no sense of humour and can't spot a playful dig at an amusing thread subject.

Sadly you couldn't spot the dig back and have none yourself it seems.

It was sarcasm in response to your dig at my dig, I was trying to continue the theme, works better in real lfe face to face though lol

Sadly it does

Sylvyr · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

NGP wrote: »

what is tea bagging btw?

Teabagging is a practice in PvP videogames that consists in humiliating/taunting your defeated opponent by playing the emote crouch/uncrouch/crouch/uncrouch repeatedly over the "corpse". It's meant to mimic r a p e - by-mouth (forcing your balls into your victim's mouth). Some people think it's "funny". It's widespread among immature teenagers without sexual experience but also among adult gamers who obviously spend more time playing with their computer and with themselves rather than enjoying IRL sexual relationships. Some even go as far as to do it with mobs in solo games where they don't despawn too quickly.
It's actually against the code of conduct and thus reportable as offensive.
In ESO, it looks as it is far more widespread on the US megaservers than on the EU megaservers.

(several edits for typos and grammar)

I can't believe it's in the code of conduct.

There are no exposed genitalia. Nothing in entering anyone's mouth or slapping on a face or forehead.

To make a rule based on simple crouching is rediculous. And for people to take it that way is too. What if you are next to the corpse, does it count then? Where does it pass the line? within how many pixels?

Let's start a new thing. if you jump 3 times over a corpse it means eff you. Spread the word. Let's see how long it takes before we can't jump over a corpse.

HungryHobo · September 2015

It is just poor sportsmanship. I would be embarrassed if I tea-bagged someone after getting killed 2+ times by them. Revenge for my death would be nice, but I wouldn't act superior to them because me and 3 of my buddies could barely kill them. They are obviously better than me. Just be glad for their juicy AP supplement!

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · September 2015

I'm not offended by it, but I do find it an act of immaturity. Just the other day (with the loading screen bug where you fall to your death) I fell from the sky's and landed to my death in Rawl'kha. No sooner than I hit the ground someone runs over and starts tea bagging me faster than I can hit the respawn button. Seriously...grow up.

Junglejim82 · September 2015

vamp_emily wrote: »

I remember when I first started playing PvP, I would see my enemy move up and down on me all the time. I got my first kill and did the same. The person I killed contacted me and said, "That is not very classy". I responded, "What are you talking about?". They replied, "You T-Bagged me, ....". I had to giggle a little after I found out it was called, "T-Bagging"

Am I the only one that does not get offended by T-Bags or someone calling me a fangirl/fanboy?

When i play PvP I take the game serious, I want to destroy all the ADs and EPs. They are my enemy and i really don't care how they feel if I T-Bag them.

I do remember a moment, where someone from AD was pounding on me, and lucky me one of my alliance members saved me, and we ended up killing him. I walked over and gave the dead AD a T-Bag and then sat in a chair next to him. Oops, Big mistake! His buddy was hiding behind me with a big Axe. In the end, I was the one laying on the ground dead, being T-Bagged.

Enjoy the game don't worry about little things like T-Bagging!
ESO please do not nerf T-Bagging.

If you're female as your name suggests then the preferred term for it is flap slap or clam slam depending on what part of the world you're in . I've tbagged and been tbagged in pvp for years now it's just a giggle but usually it's reserved for rivals or friends. In eso I use guffaw emote or facepalm for fail gankers. They deserve a nutdip anyway

MyM16sHot · September 2015

Juveniles Teabag, adults send a message saying 'good fight' but that's just my opinion.

nimander99 · September 2015

Ohhhhh they PWNZORED you sooooo bad, and now you came to the forum to tell everyone about their manly victory! Double PWNZOR for them

Fizzlewizzle · September 2015

I prefer the /Pray or the /Flute emotes over teabagging someone.
It's not like i have the right to use those emotes to begin with, as i'm a healer and don't really contribute to the kill to begin with, but it is still fun.

I don't believe i have been teabagged once. If someone were to do that they would only disgrace themselves. Because, lets be honest, everyone can kill someone who struggles, but doesn't fight back (aka a healer). Where is the Glory in that.

Sometimes i do wish i could ress an enemy. I've seen it a lot of times. Some "enemy" is doing quests in the same area i'm questing in. We spot each other, Go in full defense mode... but never engage in combat. Then, 5 or 10 minutes later, you see that person again... getting beaten to death by a group of my own alliance.
He didn't hurt a fly, yet he got beaten to death. I wish i could resurrect that poor ***, just to save him the struggle of having to run back through cyrodiil just to continue his quest.

I wish there was a way to protect enemies within cyrodiil from your own alliance, as not everyone is bad.

GreySix · September 2015

driosketch wrote: »

In my experience, that is exactly the situation and player who would t-bag.

Players who have had a hard time killing others will gloat when they finally do.

Would like to see something like that in real-life, just in time to see the tea-bagging individual reduced to a red spray of mist and meat by an IED he hadn't before spotted.

BaldusMageezack · September 2015

Hahaha Op Dip dip potato chip! Don't die you won 't get teabagged. If i have time after a kill i'll dig ya a grave

Xjcon · September 2015

There are better emotes then t bagging for tauntING other players IMO.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

I never T-bag someone if I beat someone in a fair fight.

I only T-bag in the following situations.

Failed gank attempt on me.
Notorious 1vX'er that tries to tank 10 people then melts when I debuff him
If I roll over someone in a huge zerg.

T-bagging is not honorable behavior so I save it for dishonorable situations either on their part or my own

Aerieth · September 2015

Damn. Didn't think tea bagging was such srs bsns. I reserve my tea baggings to my friends who die in PvE, who usually burst in laughter in TeamSpeak when they notice it. I don't mind if someone tea bags me in PvP. I think of it more as an expression of: "Hey! I beat you!" than "omg lol u suck wtf noob". Not much different than the game telling me: "You died."

That said, in my opinion, good fights should end in /salute, /shovel or /bow or the kind, rather than tea bagging, but come on guys. If seeing another players character sneak and un-sneak above your characters corpse is too much to handle, maybe you're the one with a problem.

P.S. Mind posting the part about tea bagging in CoC? I'm seriously interested.

Master_Kas · September 2015

Welcome to Cyrodiil.

Me and 3 friends was trying to take a keep from blues earlier. They show up with a 24man raid, using warhorn+barrier + steeltornados and prox detos (for four people lol). After they kill us some tbag, some do the /sweep.

Take it as a compliment :<

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

Aerieth wrote: »

Damn. Didn't think tea bagging was such srs bsns. I reserve my tea baggings to my friends who die in PvE, who usually burst in laughter in TeamSpeak when they notice it. I don't mind if someone tea bags me in PvP. I think of it more as an expression of: "Hey! I beat you!" than "omg lol u suck wtf noob". Not much different than the game telling me: "You died."

That said, in my opinion, good fights should end in /salute, /shovel or /bow or the kind, rather than tea bagging, but come on guys. If seeing another players character sneak and un-sneak above your characters corpse is too much to handle, maybe you're the one with a problem.

P.S. Mind posting the part about tea bagging in CoC? I'm seriously interested.

- NO, I won't bother looking in the CoC. But what I know for sure is that some people received warnings about teabagging from ZOS. Those were posted here as screenshots by the people who received them. Unfortunately the thread was deleted since it's not allowed to discuss disciplinary measures on the forum.

- I'm really tired of explaining over and over again that just because something is OK for you it doesn't have to be OK for everyone else, and you know just as well as I do that 95% of teabagging isn't meant to be nice, it's meant to be humiliating. Even if it is not always meant that way, there's no shame in adapting one's own behaviour in order to respect other people's sentivity, even if it differs from one's own.

- You also know very well that teabagging is not a simple combination of "crouch/uncrouch", it's meant to mean "I r a p e you to humiliate you just in case being killed by me is not enough an humiliation. I just want to make sure you feel really bad". And it works : nobody posts on the forum saying "he shoveled me for all the wrong reasons... "

Now I'm not stupid either, I understand that among PvPers it's part of a "code" and it's not meant to be taken that literally and it can mean plenty of things, some of those things being quite nice or just gently teasing. However, there are a lot of non-dedicated PvPers who currently join the fun of IC and they don't know this "code".

Let me just tell you what happened 2 nights ago with one of my guildies (and she's a 30sthg grown up woman, teacher IRL, so not a kid and not some kind of oversensitive fragile soul). She went to IC with us, we were a small group. Unfortunately she was cornered in a 1v1 fight and we were too busy with mobs to come to her rescue on time. Against all odds, she won that fight and it happened that her opponent had 1K+ Tel Var stones, so she inherited all those stones. Few seconds later she received a ton of insults per whisp from this opponent.

Now she refuses to join any kind of PvP again, no matter how much we insist nor how much fun she actually had there. She simply says "I'm not playing this game to get insulted, nor to hurt people so deeply that they might react this way." (And don't tell me nor her that "she should... whatever" because she won't. She was deeply shocked by the violence of the opponent's reaction).

There's no teabagging involved in this anecdote but it shows the real cultural gap between PvPers and PVEers. I believe that bringing both populations together is good thing for everyone, but for it to be successful I think PvPers should adapt a bit and drop some of their most agressive practices, among others teabagging.