Who else thinks its BS that the PC players got to transfer their characters?

RoamingRiverElk · September 2015

I've been PvPing on PC since May last year. Didn't get a transfer to the console because I don't have one and my friends are on PC, but still: yes, I very much agree that it's a stupendously huge power difference there on the consoles now. They should have let people transfer their characters, but reset the CP or give everyone starting on the consoles 100 CP from the start.

TequilaFire · September 2015

Yes, we had level, gear and experience but very few normal players had overly large amounts of CP which seems always to be the focus which was my point.

leepalmer95 · September 2015

TequilaFire wrote: »

I must be one of those "guys" that hate incorrect information.
PC transfers only had 3 months to earn CPs between the CS release in March 2015 and console release in June 2015.
I had slightly more than 100 CP when I transferred.

But who needs facts.

But if they was v14 or v12 or whatever the cap was then, they got 70 cp's for nothing when it came out? why don't console players randomly get 70 cps?

TequilaFire · September 2015

Because they weren't V14?
That was compensation from ZOS on PC for other reasons which has been beat to death, we lost a lot of accrued XP.
Yes 70 of my roughly 100 were for having a V14 when the Champion system came out.

MrGrimey · September 2015

Completely bs, it ruined the economy and balance.

The transfer should have been done after they implement CP caps and they should not have been allowed to transfer their gold

SLy_Kyti · September 2015

After simmering the soup awhile it will be hard to distinguish the new ripe tomatoes from the old, bold tomatoes.

Geemarc · September 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Geemarc wrote: »

How many CP do you think the average PC player transferred with?

My main issue with PC transfers isn't the CP its the gear and money they brought with them.

I started playing on console release and currently have 227 CP, I've managed 1 vet dungeon in that time. The terrible group finder and lack of text chat makes it nearly impossible for me to find groups to get gold keys and vet dungeon .

Yet in Cyrodiil there I am constantly seeing people running arround in Engine Guardian and Valkyn Skoria sets. I always assume they are PC ports. How many people on console have managed to get the vet 12/14 versions of these sets?

Go find a decent pve guild ^^ check these forums i already did all the vet dungeons and did dsa before i first hit v9 on my first character.

Its not through lack of trying, I've joined several AD EU PvE guilds which never panned out. They always seem to have a core group of people that play together. I've also tried the group finder a lot before finally giving up.

Sithisvoid · September 2015

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

After simmering the soup awhile it will be hard to distinguish the new ripe tomatoes from the old, bold tomatoes.

That's a very smart saying but I don't know, do old tomatoes roflstomp new tomatoes into tomato paste? lol

Groggpuffar · September 2015

I agree with OP.

I play on PS4 and thought about jumping over to the PC version of the game, but without transfer..
It doesn't seem reasonable.

Lunerdog · September 2015

And in a years time the whingebags of today will be steam rolling over new players and those new players will be the whingebags of tomorrow.

Circles within circles and wheels within wheels, circular argument is circular.

Sithisvoid · September 2015

Lunerdog wrote: »

And in a years time the whingebags of today will be steam rolling over new players and those new players will be the whingebags of tomorrow.

Circles within circles and wheels within wheels, circular argument is circular.

I'll help them too. I'm a weird guy I'll teabag you, then give you tips maybe even craft you some armor lol

Eejit1331 · September 2015

I think this is just a L2P issue and the pc transfers are the scape goat. There will always be new players in an mmo.

Daveheart · September 2015

How is this any different from someone who chooses to buy the game on PC today? They'd be way behind on CP, gear, and currency/supplies. CP imbalance is a problem, but it's a problem for PC players too; I'm sure the distribution is somewhat different, but I'll bet it's not at huge as some believe.

As far as the economy is concerned, blame that on the lack of text chat. While it wouldn't fix everything, it provides for expansion of trade/economy in the game as being the go-to workaround for the broken group finder tool.

SLy_Kyti · September 2015

Sithisvoid wrote: »

SLy_Kyti wrote: »

After simmering the soup awhile it will be hard to distinguish the new ripe tomatoes from the old, bold tomatoes.

That's a very smart saying but I don't know, do old tomatoes roflstomp new tomatoes into tomato paste? lol

As this one is no longer a ripe young tomato, she likes to think those older bolder ones have more flavor. More punch so to speak. lol

Eleusian · September 2015

Some things can't be undone. On the bright side there are always new games on the horizon. The game is so bad compared the PC version it's really their loss . I'm talking about add ons btw

DurzoBlint13 · September 2015

JD2013 wrote: »

My thoughts are that the amount of people complaining here about Champion Points in this game is now hurting my brain.

You said yourself they have a year's worth of play over you. Why should you be as powerful as those who have put in a year of gameplay?

Yes they had a year to play and level on PC/MAC.....so those characters should stay on PC/MAC and NOT transfer to console where they have a HUGE advantage over everyone that has only had the game for the last ...what 10 weeks is it?

gard · September 2015

DezKoth87 wrote: »

As the title states, its BS the PC players got to transfer characters. I mean, wtf? How is that fair in any way? They've been playing and leveling for an entire year, then come to console and smash everybody. Not cool guys....not cool. Can somebody please explain how they justified doing this? I know I sound like a low level b@#$% but these guys have so many cp its not funny. Why ESO God!?...WHY!?...WWWWHHHYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!??????

Ur thoughts?=)

Because ZOS feeds off of player's tears. Showing emotion only makes it worse.
THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER

NewBlacksmurf · September 2015

DezKoth87 wrote: »

As the title states, its BS the PC players got to transfer characters. I mean, wtf? How is that fair in any way? They've been playing and leveling for an entire year, then come to console and smash everybody. Not cool guys....not cool. Can somebody please explain how they justified doing this? I know I sound like a low level b@#$% but these guys have so many cp its not funny. Why ESO God!?...WHY!?...WWWWHHHYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!??????

Ur thoughts?=)

It's not BS as anyone who chose to buy the game and pay a sub for a year has technically bought the game 3 times or more before ever playing on console. We invested in other platforms that allowed us to play prior for a much higher cost.

Also it was due to a delay that was offered to all not special ppl. The PC requirements are pretty low

How it was justified....some customers who owned a console also owned a PC. The company offered those customers an opportunity to play and move over later.

It's a simple concept....and considering how terrible it was on Apache for months and how much was missing really the PC crowd did console a big favor in funding some parts and giving feedback to make your experiences better.

Acrolas · September 2015

dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »

Add to the fact that they allowed some terrible exploits like players borrowing millions of gold from guilds before the transfer and they paying it back allowing serious gold advantage.

But to be fair, if you can convince a group of relative strangers to lend you a lot of gold with absolutely no risk or downside to your bottom line, you pretty much deserve to be a millionaire.

PC transfers, on a whole, were strategic players from start to finish. That's why they're doing that much better compared to an average, button-mashing casual player. I might not agree with everything they did, but I admire their ambition.

nimander99 · September 2015

NGP wrote: »

Waiting for that group of same guys come here again to say cp doesn't matter. It's your skills.

CP's don't matter, it's all skill gear...

yodased · September 2015

This is a funny thread. How about you worry about you and I'll worry about me and everyone can get along just fine.

The amount of PC transfers that actually have millions of gold or > 500 champion points are very few and far between.

Just because you heard of a guy of a friend of a cousin that has 20,000,000 gold and 2k champion points doesn't make it true.

Sensationalism is fun!

Edit:

It's been a few months since launch and those who really want to would have passed the pc transfers in CP by now. This is just one more thing to cry wolf about.

mdziur · September 2015

Whiners.

BeatnikChef · September 2015

I think everything is BS, but that's just my outlook on life. Have a great day.

DezKoth87 · September 2015

If it was the other way around, and the console players got to transfer their 1 year old characters to PC and the PC players getting their ass kicked, it would be a very similar conversation. Just saying...

saxgooner · September 2015

I agree, it sucks donkey testees

RedTalon · September 2015

Sadly everyone knew that was the plan since game launch last year, that console players would be going against hardcore vets from pc who where waiting to change over.

Not bs just people didn't do their research on the game before getting it

Balthyzar · September 2015

It is complete and utter BS. They said it was supposed to make it up to the fans for delaying the release on the console. this of course only screwed everyone that did get on the console version. I really have no idea why they thought that was making it up to anyone. all they did was give a bonus to PC players for no good reason.

TequilaFire · September 2015

No good reason, 1 year sub at $180 , $59 for PC game $20.00 for transfer is 259 reasons.
You guys get to just buy the game $60.00 and play free now.
Cry me a river.

FelixTheCatt · September 2015

Tbh it doesn'r even bother me anymore. This game is so beyond broken I'm ready to call it a day amd go back to WoW. Let the pc players have it.

DenMoria · September 2015

I too was not exactly thrilled with the influx of hugely powerful players at first since I simply get served every time I set foot in Cyrodil (and now IC), but I so many of the PCers were devoted fans BECAUSE they wanted the game on console.

Sure, we (console only's) will probably never catch up to the lofty heights of these godlike beings, but, hey, at least we have something to strive for.