Which Class has the highest dps and is most wanted the most in End game group PvE content

stairwaytwoheavenb16_ESO · September 2015

such as trails, vdsa, and vet dungeons

tplink3r1 · September 2015

Magicka sorc.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

Problem is, it's changing with every major patch / rebalance.

In 1.5 sorcs were nearly excluded from trials / competitive content due to lack of burst DPS.

In 1.6 they were welcome due to very good burst DPS but stam DPS were more welcome than sorcs that were arguably less sustainable.

In 1.7... it seems magicka sorcs are the OP class for everything. But wait and see, stam classes still have to adjust, due to the changes in stamina management and there are also a few bugs with medium armor passives that need to get fixed before we can say anything "definite".

No matter what, "most wanted class" is going to be ... tanks. No matter which class, just tanks. So many are just afraid or pissed with the new tanking mechanics they have to figure out that they're either giving up or relearning or just plain rerolling DPS. Finding a tank for hardcore endgame content is a challenge at the moment.

stairwaytwoheavenb16_ESO · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Problem is, it's changing with every major patch / rebalance.

In 1.5 sorcs were nearly excluded from trials / competitive content due to lack of burst DPS.

In 1.6 they were welcome due to very good burst DPS but stam DPS were more welcome than sorcs that were arguably less sustainable.

In 1.7... it seems magicka sorcs are the OP class for everything. But wait and see, stam classes still have to adjust, due to the changes in stamina management and there are also a few bugs with medium armor passives that need to get fixed before we can say anything "definite".

No matter what, "most wanted class" is going to be ... tanks. No matter which class, just tanks. So many are just afraid or pissed with the new tanking mechanics they have to figure out that they're either giving up or relearning or just plain rerolling DPS. Finding a tank for hardcore endgame content is a challenge at the moment.

Thanks for the info, my main is a imperial DK tank and im about to get my NB to vet 14. I have a sorc high elf at vet 2 and I wasn't going to level her but knowing this i'll definitely go back and level her as well.

Also, it seems in my circle of friend and friends of friends, that tanks are a dime a dozen. I might just hold off on repecing to see how many people quit being a tank or if I even want to be a tank anymore..lol

thanks again

Dracane · September 2015

Magicka DKs

And for pvp, there is a reason why the majority of the population is made of Nightblades and Templars. I rarely see Sorcerer anymore, because they lost what made them iconic and welcome for new players. But I suppose this was a pve question.

Oh_Skrivva · September 2015

For me Magicka sorcs and dks are the top. Depending on what dungeon or content I am going to run will determine which toon will run. Each has its pros and cons. I feel the sorcerer to be more versatile over my dk. This is why I have both maxed out. I also have some Stam build toons at max. But for my play style and love for magic builds ever since I started playing the elder scrolls series. I use then mostly, even though Stam builds are also very strong in dps with the right set up. I say run with you enjoy playing. With practice you can do all content with out a problem.

CGPsaint · September 2015

Repeat after me! "T-R-I-A-L-S"

Oh_Skrivva · September 2015

For me Magicka sorcs and dks are the top. Depending on what dungeon or content I am going to run will determine which toon will run. Each has its pros and cons. I feel the sorcerer to be more versatile over my dk. This is why I have both maxed out. I also have some Stam build toons at max. But for my play style and love for magic builds ever since I started playing the elder scrolls series. I use then mostly, even though Stam builds are also very strong in dps with the right set up. I say run with what you enjoy playing. With practice you can do all content with out a problem.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

CGPsaint wrote: »

Repeat after me! "T-R-I-A-L-S"

I agree. This widespread error is annoying. Still most forum users are non-native english speakers (neither am I) so let's explain :

A trail.... is a path in the wood or "A mark or a series of signs or objects left behind by the passage of someone or something".

AA, HRC and SO are TRIALS, not trails.

NOTE THE POSITIONS OF THE LETTERS A and I, please.

Trial : A person, experience, or situation that tests a person’s endurance or forbearance. Or in this case, an instance that's hard to complete.

(definitions by the Oxford English Dictionary).

Iyas · September 2015

Magicka NB

MrGrimey · September 2015

I'm sorry... But what happened to sorcs that made them so good in pve and how do I do it?

icontested · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

Repeat after me! "T-R-I-A-L-S"

I agree. This widespread error is annoying. Still most forum users are non-native english speakers (neither am I) so let's explain :

A trail.... is a path in the wood or "A mark or a series of signs or objects left behind by the passage of someone or something".

AA, HRC and SO are TRIALS, not trails.

NOTE THE POSITIONS OF THE LETTERS A and I, please.

Trial : A person, experience, or situation that tests a person’s endurance or forbearance. Or in this case, an instance that's hard to complete.

(definitions by the Oxford English Dictionary).

Text chat isn't enough here. A nice scarface sound bite on how to say it would go a lot farther. Lol. Even arnold or Rambo for this one.

Cadbury · September 2015

Looking around the board, I see that sorcs are now considered weak because of a certain set, templars are weak because of various nerfs, DKS are underpowered, and even that NB's are under-performing.

Guess I'll just reroll as an NPC.

eliisra · September 2015

Most wanted is templar. In 2.1 it's mandatory to have at least 1 on every group for Spears and Repentance. There's no other class you actually need in a group.

Best dps right now seems to be sorc and magicka DK. Kind of ironic really, because when ESO first came out we also had magicka DK +sorc on top. Than roughly 10 "balancing patches" and almost 1.5 year later, back to were we started.

Shunravi · September 2015

eliisra wrote: »

Most wanted is templar. In 2.1 it's mandatory to have at least 1 on every group for Spears and Repentance. There's no other class you actually need in a group.

Best dps right now seems to be sorc and magicka DK. Kind of ironic really, because when ESO first came out we also had magicka DK +sorc on top. Than roughly 10 "balancing patches" and almost 1.5 year later, back to were we started.

Back to where we started minus a lot of fun and interesting stuff...

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

MrGrimey wrote: »

I'm sorry... But what happened to sorcs that made them so good in pve and how do I do it?

They discovered overload, liquid lightning and crystal fragments. That's all.
They also benefited a lot from the removal of soft caps and all magicka based abilities scaling off max magicka.

The combination of spell damage and max magicka stacking made above mentioned skills very powerful - they were not that efficient in 1.5 .

Dracane · September 2015

MrGrimey wrote: »

I'm sorry... But what happened to sorcs that made them so good in pve and how do I do it?

Bolt Escape made them strong I think. The ability to engage and escape.
But this was no topic anymore towards the end. Melees became too strong and too clever. 9 out of 10 melees just gap close me all the time and I can't escape. And now with the cost increase, you can't just spam bolt escape to compensate.

If the first 2 jump fail, then you will most likely not escape. And shields are not what they used to be, especially with the new shieldbreaker set.

Templar heals however are extremely strong. A group with a capable Templar is almost unkillable and Nightblades have the only escape without a penalty, making them very attractive compared to Sorcerers. I can't say what's up on US server etc.
But on EU Server/Azura's Star, like 60% or more of the population are Nightblades, followed by a huge amount of Templars. I rarely see Dragonknights or Sorcerers. I could be wrong, but I'm spending alot of time in IC and that's my observation.

I enjoy fighting Sorcerers now though, they are extremely squishy for me, I insta gib them basically. So I kinda like the changes, even though it also affects me.

EDIT: just realized you were talking about pve

nevermind then. Let's not even start about pve.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2015

@Dracane : The question was about sorcs in PVE.

Dracane · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

@Dracane : The question was about sorcs in PVE.

Oh, my EDIT came a few seconds too late.
Just realized the question was about pve.

asneakybanana · September 2015

stairwaytwoheavenb16_ESO wrote: »

such as trails, vdsa, and vet dungeons

For dsa it's mag templar, for trials it's a mix and the whatever player pulls the highest dps. Last patch there was a Magicka Templar that was as good as our best dks which was the op class. You usually want to have 1 or 2 Stam builds for their are potential, a sorc or 2 for ranged and high burst dps, dks/Temps for high sustained dps. So really you'll have the most luck getting into the group if you are good and consistent meaning no matter what happens you will be close to the highest dps in the raid and you're not dying to easily avoidable mechanics.

notimetocare · September 2015

The one with a non-bad player.

Thymos · September 2015

Why do people keep referring to it as 1.7?

Didn't the launch of TU jump it up to 2.0, and IC make it 2.1?

Funkopotamus · September 2015

In every MMO there is always someone that post this on the forums. lol

The problem is that in ESO classes are still being treated like the game is still in beta. Things change so often that there honestly is no safe bet for anyone looking for an answer to this age old question.

Having just said that I will tell you this.
DK's are and have always been the easiest class to play in ESO. They are the only lass that ZOS has not tried to tear down and rebuild from the ground up. It is almost like ZOS wants everyone to be a DK clone. If you are looking for a class that is easy to play has a very small learning curve and has been basically OP since beta... Go with DK.

If you want a class that is harder to play and has a very high learning curve and also a very high reward for learning how to play it.. Sorc!

A sorc in the right hands and the right gear is a BLAST to play and is very rewarding. Sorcs are very unforgiving if you do not know how to manage resources and gear them properly, but when you get the hang of timing and the right gear sets you are a walking Eldritch Catastrophe of destruction and death!

timidobserver · September 2015

If you have the time level one of each. FOTM changes pretty frequently in this game. Balancing is sometimes done with a bazooka rather than a scalpel.

fosokles · September 2015

The one with more champion points ... doesn't matter what class you run, if you have enough champion points and follow meta builds, you will do the damage.

Funkopotamus · September 2015

timidobserver wrote: »

If you have the time level one of each. FOTM changes pretty frequently in this game. Balancing is sometimes done with a bazooka rather than a scalpel.

Speaking of "FOTM" I do hope everyone has their "Magica NB" builds ready to rule Tamriel for the next several weeks/months as that build is going to be a MUNSTAH! for the foreseeable future! It is by far the strongest NB build we have seen in this game since beta and when I first ran across the build from a well known player/ESO supporter I was blown away at how strong it looked on paper.. After taking it for a test drive on PC all I can say is watch out world.. Welcome to the age of the Magica NB! It may not last long before ZOS starts nerfing it, but a few of us that knew this train was coming have ours ready to wreck havoc for as long as ZOS allows it.

stairwaytwoheavenb16_ESO · September 2015

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

CGPsaint wrote: »

Repeat after me! "T-R-I-A-L-S"

I agree. This widespread error is annoying. Still most forum users are non-native english speakers (neither am I) so let's explain :

A trail.... is a path in the wood or "A mark or a series of signs or objects left behind by the passage of someone or something".

AA, HRC and SO are TRIALS, not trails.

NOTE THE POSITIONS OF THE LETTERS A and I, please.

Trial : A person, experience, or situation that tests a person’s endurance or forbearance. Or in this case, an instance that's hard to complete.

(definitions by the Oxford English Dictionary).

lol, I just wrote really quickly before leaving the house and didn't proof read..lol I'm sure my students would get a kick out of this... I'm usually the one doing the correcting..lol