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No level cap raise for Orsinium

  • Van_0S
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    I hope the choices are not so damn linear.
  • Casdha
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    I'd guess this might be a sign of how well IC does on sales figures as compared to the amount of folks that play.

    If they raise the level cap it means that IC sold well and most of the players need room to move up.

    If they don't raise the level cap then sales were bad and they hope they can get the rest of the players to buy something and not give them reason to skip it by being behind.

    But then again didn't they say at one point that it would scale to your level? I kind of took it as if you could even start the game there. Not sure where I got this idea from, might have been just folks talking.
    Edited by Casdha on September 12, 2015 5:28AM
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  • Van_0S
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    Scale to my lvl !!!!
    That's good news to me. Well, I guess even the DB guild will be released too.
  • Xendyn
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    Casdha wrote: »
    I'd guess this might be a sign of how well IC does on sales figures as compared to the amount of folks that play.

    If they raise the level cap it means that IC sold well and most of the players need room to move up.

    If they don't raise the level cap then sales were bad and they hope they can get the rest of the players to buy something and not give them reason to skip it by being behind.

    But then again didn't they say at one point that it would scale to your level? I kind of took it as if you could even start the game there. Not sure where I got this idea from, might have been just folks talking.

    Yes, these adventure zones from here on out are supposed to scale to your level, last I heard.
    All this speculation tho is just that...speculation.

    Imo, the reason this all seems kinda skewed is that the original design of the game was corrupted in the early stages.
    It was not intended that you go through all alliances on one character, you were supposed to pick one and stick with it.
    People got upset that they would have to roll alts to see all the factions, so we ended up with this mish-mosh mess called Vet levels, that ZOS now has to try and get us out of.

    We should have been leveling though one alliance zone, then focusing on Cyrodiil with the Imperial City as it's topper and Craglorn with its Trials for the pve side.
    Vet levels and Cadwell's would never have existed. These new zones coming would be icing on the cake aka Adventure Zones

    Zos' biggest mistake...listening to the loud, squeaky wheels crying Doooommm, most of whom aren't even here anymore.


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  • Trashy Boy
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    Why not?.......I like the idea of an alternative to having to group in IC or dailies etc. It will be a nice bit of chill time without worrying about holding a group up and doing what the heck you like :) cool! And always something new around the corner is better than bankstanding.
    Edited by Trashy Boy on September 12, 2015 6:44AM
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  • Darlgon
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    Qyrk wrote: »
    confirmed by Gina on latest ESO Live.

    So please rest your complaints (there are some people out there....I'm watching you) regarding raising vet ranks on DLC somewhere else.

    Well.. yes and no.

    See.. Orcsinium is supposed to battle level EVERYONE to the same level. Its what they been promising at least..that a level 10 can group with a VR and play with their friends.

    Before we get all happy, lets see how THAT plays out on the PTS. Not raising the level, and making everyone all VR16s.. no way that can get messed up.

    They may decide they have to raise level during the PTS, because no one needs their gear from that zone, or to get everyone on the same level. After all, right now, my purple VR14 crafted sets give me better stats than purple VR16 5 pc sets from Rewards from the Worthy. (I know, I spent almost a whole day looking, paid thru the.. .. asdf.... only to see slight increases in my magicka for light, health for heavy and stam for med, while my all three of my regens droped 25% on all three sets. NOT cool for a regen build hybrid DK.)
    I caught this...it was good to hear but did anyone catch the other reference when the response to how long it takes to create one zone vs Orsinium?

    It sounded like a major zone with "dailies" and crafting motifs, which would seem to be a grind intensive content upgrade if progression isn't level based. Or maybe this begins the removal of VR levels and this talk of seasonal gear

    Yeah, it was a pretty long time to make, even tho I cant remember the number. They have said before they have three different teams working on three expansions right now, which is why the writer dude had to be so careful. He has to do his job to set the framework for ALL the other teams to build in. Then they have to kinda.. supervise? make sure that the other teams (quest, combat, dungeon, art, VO, music, etc) all follow along with the theme.

    Oh just reread. See point above about battle leveling in Orcsinium.
    What will the story be in orsinium?
    Will it be like in skyrim dlc? or A different story that as nothing to do about deadra invasion or joining the faction?

    Um.. NO? No one has said, but ZoS has said that the IC is to close out the Molag Bal story line, so prob no anchors. Daedra are a part of every plane, so they pretty much will always be around and some Deadric will be invading, using Daedra as their shock troops or agents.

    And,.. this company did not make Skyrim, so, no, it wont be like a Skyrim DLC. Thats another division, with a different development team.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    Casdha wrote: »
    I'd guess this might be a sign of how well IC does on sales figures as compared to the amount of folks that play.

    If they raise the level cap it means that IC sold well and most of the players need room to move up.

    If they don't raise the level cap then sales were bad and they hope they can get the rest of the players to buy something and not give them reason to skip it by being behind.

    But then again didn't they say at one point that it would scale to your level? I kind of took it as if you could even start the game there. Not sure where I got this idea from, might have been just folks talking.

    Yes, these adventure zones from here on out are supposed to scale to your level, last I heard.
    All this speculation tho is just that...speculation.

    Imo, the reason this all seems kinda skewed is that the original design of the game was corrupted in the early stages.
    It was not intended that you go through all alliances on one character, you were supposed to pick one and stick with it.
    People got upset that they would have to roll alts to see all the factions, so we ended up with this mish-mosh mess called Vet levels, that ZOS now has to try and get us out of.

    We should have been leveling though one alliance zone, then focusing on Cyrodiil with the Imperial City as it's topper and Craglorn with its Trials for the pve side.
    Vet levels and Cadwell's would never have existed. These new zones coming would be icing on the cake aka Adventure Zones

    Zos' biggest mistake...listening to the loud, squeaky wheels crying Doooommm, most of whom aren't even here anymore.


    This...especially the last part.....listened to the outcry in closed beta and now we have an issue.
    But Vet was VR so we would still have them just not as they are today.
    Possibly we could still have the silver n gold zones too but they wouldn't be leveling zones, just adventuring and other optional content
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on September 12, 2015 8:54AM
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  • Saint_JiubB14_ESO
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    Darlgon wrote: »
    Qyrk wrote: »
    confirmed by Gina on latest ESO Live.

    So please rest your complaints (there are some people out there....I'm watching you) regarding raising vet ranks on DLC somewhere else.

    Well.. yes and no.

    See.. Orcsinium is supposed to battle level EVERYONE to the same level. Its what they been promising at least..that a level 10 can group with a VR and play with their friends.

    Before we get all happy, lets see how THAT plays out on the PTS. Not raising the level, and making everyone all VR16s.. no way that can get messed up.

    They may decide they have to raise level during the PTS, because no one needs their gear from that zone, or to get everyone on the same level. After all, right now, my purple VR14 crafted sets give me better stats than purple VR16 5 pc sets from Rewards from the Worthy. (I know, I spent almost a whole day looking, paid thru the.. .. asdf.... only to see slight increases in my magicka for light, health for heavy and stam for med, while my all three of my regens droped 25% on all three sets. NOT cool for a regen build hybrid DK.)
    I caught this...it was good to hear but did anyone catch the other reference when the response to how long it takes to create one zone vs Orsinium?

    It sounded like a major zone with "dailies" and crafting motifs, which would seem to be a grind intensive content upgrade if progression isn't level based. Or maybe this begins the removal of VR levels and this talk of seasonal gear

    Yeah, it was a pretty long time to make, even tho I cant remember the number. They have said before they have three different teams working on three expansions right now, which is why the writer dude had to be so careful. He has to do his job to set the framework for ALL the other teams to build in. Then they have to kinda.. supervise? make sure that the other teams (quest, combat, dungeon, art, VO, music, etc) all follow along with the theme.

    Oh just reread. See point above about battle leveling in Orcsinium.
    What will the story be in orsinium?
    Will it be like in skyrim dlc? or A different story that as nothing to do about deadra invasion or joining the faction?

    Um.. NO? No one has said, but ZoS has said that the IC is to close out the Molag Bal story line, so prob no anchors. Daedra are a part of every plane, so they pretty much will always be around and some Deadric will be invading, using Daedra as their shock troops or agents.

    And,.. this company did not make Skyrim, so, no, it wont be like a Skyrim DLC. Thats another division, with a different development team.

    Orsinium will be rebuilding the city, they talked about it a long time back. the city was sacked not that long ago so the main storyline is supposed to be you helping one of x# of rival factions and rebuilding the city. So it will probably still be something close to that.
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  • zornyan
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    People will never be happy, people want new levels, people don't want new levels, people want new gear, people don't want to grind for new gear etc etc

    Just get on with it already. .
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Well either way it goes....it seems we will be going back in time or that some magical event will have to occur to restore Orsinium
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  • Digiman
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    If there isn't single player PvE dailies I will just snap...
  • Techlisp
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    Everyone create an Orc and have a party.
    This post will not take you an unusually long time to read.

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  • lostavalon
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    haha they said they were going to remove them aswell, lets not get our hopes up to much
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  • Rune_Relic
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    This is good news to many. They also mentioned expanding gear with Orsinium so that's also great!

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    Edited by Rune_Relic on September 12, 2015 10:33AM
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  • Mitchblue
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    You think it'd make more sense with no new levels with IC but add them with Orsinium? Half *** backwards if you ask me.
    Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?
  • Swindy
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    firstdecan wrote: »
    ZoS will change their mind, they'll need a reason for people to buy the DLC.

    What? People are DESPERATE for new PvE content. Why wouldn't they pay for it?
    Some of us have...though it will regardless be full of ganking Pvp groups looking to telvar the latest 'must have" IC gear.
    :smile:
    Just the view from a solo Pve enthusiast. No heat. We all pay the same price.

    UrQuan wrote: »
    Why would someone go to a solo-adventure zone if they are max level?
    To adventure?
    What he said. We're all adventurers, just not all Pvp war orientated.
    Edited by Swindy on September 12, 2015 10:42AM
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  • Leandor
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    It actually makes sense this way. They put in V16 but only sets without jewellery. In Orsinium, they will release sets with jewellery. Incentive to go for Orsinium ensured.
  • Techlisp
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    Techlisp wrote: »
    Everyone create an Orc and have a party.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD7ulPlAFq0
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  • jpatek0501ub17_ESO
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    firstdecan wrote: »
    ZoS will change their mind, they'll need a reason for people to buy the DLC.

    Crazy idea... how about for the quality content and gameplay? ;)

    Level less, play more.
    NGP wrote: »
    firstdecan wrote: »
    ZoS will change their mind, they'll need a reason for people to buy the DLC.

    Crazy idea... how about for the quality content and gameplay? ;)

    Level less, play more.

    Hope they could achieve that someday.

    It dose not look promising.

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    Good.
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  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    Kinda got the hint when they renamed the crafting mats to make sense outside of IC.
  • Casdha
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    Xendyn wrote: »

    Imo, the reason this all seems kinda skewed is that the original design of the game was corrupted in the early stages.
    It was not intended that you go through all alliances on one character, you were supposed to pick one and stick with it.
    People got upset that they would have to roll alts to see all the factions, so we ended up with this mish-mosh mess called Vet levels, that ZOS now has to try and get us out of.


    Not sure exactly what you mean, Cadwell's Silver and Gold have been in the game and Playable since at least October of 2013, VR10 was the cap then. Which means it has been in development for much longer than that. I had my first VR character 3 or 4 months before the game even launched.
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  • Darlgon
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    Orsinium will be rebuilding the city, they talked about it a long time back. the city was sacked not that long ago so the main storyline is supposed to be you helping one of x# of rival factions and rebuilding the city. So it will probably still be something close to that.

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  • nimander99
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    Carde wrote: »
    Told you guys. VR16 Orsinium is the PvE equivalent of IC for the PvPers. Cool your breasticles.

    So it's gonna be a giant zerg traveling in a huge circle in the zone?
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  • Darlgon
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    nimander99 wrote: »
    Carde wrote: »
    Told you guys. VR16 Orsinium is the PvE equivalent of IC for the PvPers. Cool your breasticles.

    So it's gonna be a giant zerg traveling in a huge circle in the zone?

    Doing quests together.
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • Selique
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    nimander99 wrote: »
    Carde wrote: »
    Told you guys. VR16 Orsinium is the PvE equivalent of IC for the PvPers. Cool your breasticles.

    So it's gonna be a giant zerg traveling in a huge circle in the zone?

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  • krees28b14_ESO
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    Casdha wrote: »
    Xendyn wrote: »

    Imo, the reason this all seems kinda skewed is that the original design of the game was corrupted in the early stages.
    It was not intended that you go through all alliances on one character, you were supposed to pick one and stick with it.
    People got upset that they would have to roll alts to see all the factions, so we ended up with this mish-mosh mess called Vet levels, that ZOS now has to try and get us out of.


    Not sure exactly what you mean, Cadwell's Silver and Gold have been in the game and Playable since at least October of 2013, VR10 was the cap then. Which means it has been in development for much longer than that. I had my first VR character 3 or 4 months before the game even launched.

    When the game was in development before open beta, ZOS announced the race lock and faction lock. So EP was only playing the EP zones and that was it. The outcry was insane for Elder Scrolls fans as they wanted to experience the game and go anywhere on one character just you can in any other ES game. No part of those games were locked to a faction or race. So people complained. ZOS had the answer... Caldwell's Silver and Gold. Basically they threw it together so people were happy. No addition to the main story, fighter or mages guild stories nothing. You simply experience the war and the stories from your enemies point of view. All this happened months before October 2013. Vet Levels are nothing more than a fix so people could play one character and see the entire world. ZOS just did a bad job implementing it. I think that if the Main story would have continued and same for fighter's and mage's guilds people would not have complained as much. But, If I remember right back then a vet level was like 1.6 million experience to gain one level. Could have been more I do not remember. But, I leveled through it. Fun the first time sucks to do a second time.
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    I really don't get the attraction, if there are no levels gear will be sideways from IC gear. So what is the motivation to buy something so you can mash E a lot to get past all the sophomoric scripts written by under-payed and un-inspired writers so you can get to the mark and press E again, or the circle and kill everything there so you can hurry back and mash E again for some more depressingly bad writing? If there is no gear to get there is no point.

    I was watching my son play some Skyrim yesterday and the differences in the quality of writing, music, game-play and the world is just so remarkable. It really saps one's motivation to go to the crown store to buy a bear skin.
    Edited by AhPook_Is_Here on September 12, 2015 4:39PM
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  • Gidorick
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    Zos' biggest mistake...listening to the loud, squeaky wheels crying Doooommm, most of whom aren't even here anymore.

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  • HairyFairy
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    Carde wrote: »
    Told you guys. VR16 Orsinium is the PvE equivalent of IC for the PvPers. Cool your breasticles.

    Does that mean that orsinium will be 90% pvp ? :D because thats how ic is for a pvp player...

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