Haha, you said it brother!

If i happen to come across someone who just want´s to leech without doing any work i simply pull a whole room and watch him get slaughtered.

If the person can carry their own weight i´m fine with it and grp them.

What i´m not fine with is me doing the work while someone else is gaining an advantage of my effort.

Cadbury wrote: »

Ah, the classic "Don't killsteal, brah! I'm losing XP!!". Glad to see it alive and well still in 2015

Lol I have said something like that only it involved cursing, wishing their relatives will suffer some form of debilitating disease or infections followed by a tirade of loosely linked insults. I don't grind but the late arrival heroes do get on my nerves sometimes.

Leandor wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

@Rune_Relic you know what is much more fun than venting on forums? Just don't react to their whispers and show them that you can do the grind better solo, then they can do with two. I do that every time. Usually they just leave after a couple minutes.

Because... winding them up wont educate them about their flawed logic and selfishness.
They will just think of you as an arse and carry on the next day.
Assuming they actually listen to anyone other than themselves of course.

True. But they will not be educated in any other way as well. There is too much self-righteousness in those heads. It is more efficient to just oust them from the spot you want to work, for as long as you want to do it. I have one duo that I used to see quite regularly at my V3-V8 spot, who by now leave if they see me coming. Funny, that. Made a bunch of friendliest buddies there at the same time with people who are willing to group up...

So Just assume they wont change and don't give them the benefit of doubt.
OK. That was plan B anyway lol.

Most of the time I will join in with others on the fly... and others will join me and sometimes ask to group for some reason.
I accept no problem although I cant see the point as long as everyone tags the kills.
I make a point of only getting 1 hit in so that others can get damage in too.
I want the loot not the XP really.
So I know what you are saying about most people.
Hell its fun vaporising everything around sometimes.
I have also had the privliedge of seeing some truly awesome nb/sorc/tamplar/dk builds too.
I think....I hope I don't come across you in PVP. hehe

I get this in Gold zones on Ps4. Don't see another player around for 2-3 hours while leveling up and doing quest. It's empty but kind of nice in a way (except for world bosses, need help with some of them and no one is around). Move to the next quest area and it's 2-6 players pulling every quest mob and AOE'ing them.

Example, I need to kill 5 vampires for ash or some *** and they're pulling everything so I start tagging mobs. Glad I play with voice chat off cause I know I was getting cursed out heh. Do my thing and move on. Not worth the time or effort trolling them.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

I don't care how many XP pots you have bought from the crown store.
YOUR game time is not more important than MY game time.
So don't go stamping your feet demanding me to leave an area because your XP isn't maxed out.
These are your options:

1. Go to a Personal area you can reserve for your own special snowflake use - ie A GROUP DUNGEON "INSTANCE".
2. If you want to farm a PUBLIC AREA in SHARED SPACE in a MULTIPLAYER GAME......learn to share and suck it up or go find another abandoned area for your special arse.
3. DONT PLAY AN MMO. Go find a single player game where you wont be impacted by other people in public areas.

There is no ONE TRUE RING of grinding for your personal use MY PRECIOUS

Next one that asks wont receive a polite or cooperative response !

I agree, this is an mmo everyone, has access to everything and nothing belongs to an individual, back in the day before self entitlement reared it's ugly head, people used to group and grind together, part of the social aspect of an mmo, I guess times have changed and not for the best it seems..

I found Cryodiil is a good place to grind xp for levels V14 - V16. Just pick one of those villages/ruins with goblins/undead/bandits and go in a circle around it. The mobs respawn fast enough that you won't get bored. Of course you have to watch for other players from different factions, but it's a rare occurrence since most people are in IC or busy taking keeps.

I can feel this. Between local area chat and the "move away now" emote being used incorrectly (presumably its for a tank/raid leader to use in boss fights?) i can get wound up. Its not just the rudeness, but the tenacity of their arrogant selfishness that think's they have any right to tell me what i should do in my game, and depreciate my own enjoyment, solely because they may lose out or have to share a little bit of the XP for 10 minutes. I have even had it from guys who come into an area i am already in and tell me to "move away now"

The only reason i can see to have an alt in another faction is so if this happens in IC you can switch over and Gank them endlessly, following it up each time with your own emotes "move away now" and "guffaw"

If you want to grind with no interruption go on at 3am-7am at a weekend after you've been to the pub and have it all to yourself. Otherwise suck it up.

Why does anyone get worked up over this? Complain to me I stole your XP, you get the standard response "LOL". From my end that sums up the situation perfectly.

Derra wrote: »

If i happen to come across someone who just want´s to leech without doing any work i simply pull a whole room and watch him get slaughtered.

If the person can carry their own weight i´m fine with it and grp them.

What i´m not fine with is me doing the work while someone else is gaining an advantage of my effort.

I hate the guys that run around my ongoing battle, scooping up all the mats and stuff, that I took on the herd of Welwas to harvest.

I've been in this scenario as both the grinder and the quester stumbling upon someone who is grinding.

When I'm grinding and run into other people questing, I simply avoid any mobs around them until they pass through. Sure, I may lose a little bit of XP and a couple seconds off my XP pots, but I certainly would never expect somebody not to play the game so I can grind. Although just the other day a solo player jumped in right when I was doing a big pull of 20 or so mobs and died almost immediately. Not sure if he thought he was helping, or was just trying to get some extra XP. So while I don't really care if I run into other people while I'm grinding, I would advise inexperienced players to avoid jumping into a fight when somebody is pulling a bunch of mobs, simply for their own safety. If you see me fighting 10-20 mobs at a time, you do not need to jump in and help, I can handle them .

When I'm questing and run into somebody who is grinding, usually they don't bother to say anything, and I try my best to avoid mobs they are fighting. However when somebody decides to tell me to leave or not steal their kills, all it does is encourage me to "steal" their kills and stick around much longer than intended. What's funny is when they try to get me killed with the whole "pull a bunch of mobs and bail" technique and I still have no problem killing the mobs.

Moral of the story, try to be courteous whether you are questing or grinding, but also do not feel the need to remain courteous to those who will not extend any courtesy to you.

Artheiron wrote: »

you can't blame people playing a game designed bad. you can't tell them what to do. Tell ZoS to fix it instead.

The problem in the OP isn't the design. It is the players.

I just typed Doing Quest into chat, got my item and moved on. By the way, this was over in---o wait, not supposed to let on about grind spots!