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Apokh
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Hello forum ppl, hello @ZOS staff,

there´s something often said but never really discussed I want to discuss today and hope the ZOS guys will catch the ball.
At first sorry for my english, i guess it is okay but far from perfect - as well as my german (native language) ;)

So when some of you followed the twitch broadcasts you also saw this ...art..guy (sorry forgot about the name). He was several times on ESO Live now and showed some concept arts and how these things are developed to models and finally come to TESOU.
But as a guild leader, fan and webmaster there is one big thing, I always have to struggle with. "Where the heck, do I get this stuff from?"

Sure, we are allowed to take the (very rare) artworks, screenshots and logos from the TESOU page, but to be honest, that is not satisfying. If I would have lived near..wherever you guys sit, I would come around and make a Fansite Kit myself digging thru your stuff.
See guys like me always have so much work to find good material. We process this stuff and afterwards we have what we wanted, almost at least because some pics on the internet are to low resolution or whatever.

Beginning with the simplest thing, try to find a Aldmeri banner on the net. Okay found it? Try to find one in high resolution and clean, so that you perhaps coud use it to make the guild shirts for the next reallife-guild event. Try it out! It reallly sucks ;)

On the other side you are missing the great chance to let us make publicity for our game. See - for sure you have this page. But count the fansites and the guildsites on the web. We all do this for free, what better publicity could a company have?
But I see, you guys are to busy to take a seat at one of your dozens of pcs and look thru all the arts you have, all the models and the cgi which is probably lazing around on your servers.

Perhaps someone finally is reading this and plucking up courage at @ZOS ...

Regards Apokh
Edited by Apokh on September 8, 2015 1:42PM
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  • Gidorick
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    Posting high resolution images of what they show on ESO live would be cool. I don't know if there are legal and copyright issues that might arise. There could be some usage rights barriers that are preventing them from releasing them in such a way.
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  • Epona222
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    Does "fanservice" mean a different thing to me than it does to you? O_o
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  • Gidorick
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    Epona222 wrote: »
    Does "fanservice" mean a different thing to me than it does to you? O_o

    lol. Yes. Fanservice can simply mean "pleasing the fans". Any sort of extra stuff just for fans could be called fan service.

    But it seems to have originated from pervy camera angles in anime. That was news to me! I thought the term was just adopted by anime/manga.
    Edited by Gidorick on September 8, 2015 12:18PM
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  • Epona222
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    Does "fanservice" mean a different thing to me than it does to you? O_o

    lol. Yes. Fanservice means "pleasing the fans". It's not just pervy camera angles in anime.

    I think then this is a case where the term is not used the same way here. I would be familiar with the term customer service for the former. :)
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  • Turelus
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    As someone now running a guild website I have to agree that the lack of asset packs is frustrating.

    Added to that is I don't know what I can legally use for my site, I have tried contacting ZOS a couple of times in tweets or messages asking if we have free reign to use anything we want for non-profit websites but no idea on this answer.
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  • Apokh
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    There is no official Statement (guess not even in the FAQ) but at ESO Relkease there was also such a thread here and in that time they said, we are free to use what they have here, but...there is nothing you can rely on.

    At least the basic assets like the Banners of the factions, the Celestials, the guilds, some characters as molag bal, sheogorath, raz, these 3 cgi guys, some sort of daedroth, harvester and some male/female fighters in different Armorsets ...thats all we need. Most of all the faction banners...
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  • Thymos
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    Does "fanservice" mean a different thing to me than it does to you? O_o

    lol. Yes. Fanservice can simply mean "pleasing the fans". Any sort of extra stuff just for fans could be called fan service.

    But it seems to have originated from pervy camera angles in anime. That was news to me! I thought the term was just adopted by anime/manga.

    I thought it meant something along the lines of slavery, and that they are to serve us from now on. Or is it that the fans serve them? uh oh...

    HOLY CRUD! DO NOT GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH FAN SERVICE.... I was hoping to find a funny picture of a Fan, you know the thing that spins and moves air....
    Edited by Thymos on September 8, 2015 2:19PM
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  • UrQuan
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    Here's a good source for what "fan service" is usually understood to mean:
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanservice
    Warning: venturing on tvtropes can result in a massive loss of productivity as you click around on various things and suddenly it's way past you bedtime!
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  • Gidorick
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    LOL @Thymos you were expecting:

    ceiling-fan-repair.jpg

    and you got ... well, things I wouldn't post on this forum because I want to avoid getting banned. :wink:
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    LOL @Thymos you were expecting:

    ceiling-fan-repair.jpg

    and you got ... well, things I wouldn't post on this forum because I want to avoid getting banned. :wink:

    Lol. When I think of the phrase "fan service", I think of anime and manga with lots of lewd character designs. :D
  • Gidorick
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    LOL @Thymos you were expecting:

    ceiling-fan-repair.jpg

    and you got ... well, things I wouldn't post on this forum because I want to avoid getting banned. :wink:

    Lol. When I think of the phrase "fan service", I think of anime and manga with lots of lewd character designs. :D

    Or just about every MMO other than ESO. 'cause you know... the skimpy armor.
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    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

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  • Kuroinu
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    Lol, people got so easily carried away because of one term.

    As an example, FFXIV offers Fan Creation Kits for fan-made websites and these are also updated along with the game. So new kits become available when new content is released. While I don't have a website, I can see these kits being very beneficial to those that have created various websites related to the MMO they're currently interested in. E.g. Database sites & Guild sites.

    ESO has a lot of nice Concept Art and the community would be very appreciative if such Fan Creation Kits were made available to them.
  • Gidorick
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    @Apokh, You should ask this in the "ask us anything" thread. Maybe they'll say something about it on ESO Live...
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    That's right... Horse.
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  • Apokh
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    Seems most of the guys in here dont need Concept Arts and Models...they just need employment...or a girlfriend o_O
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