Only 7 words:
PLS Remove Spawn Points Inside Imperial City.
It's like playing a deathmatch fps.

Not all groups want to PvP. Last night I grouped up with people, and it was clear before we started that the mission was to complete the quests. Just find some folks with the same intentions. Ask around in guild and zone chat

If that doesn't work... Play at 3am. PvE is pretty easy about that time.. Didn't run into anyone.. Lol

Lets make this imbalanced game more fun... by eliminating small group play! maybe nobody will notice the imbalances then

sagitter wrote: »

Only 7 words:
PLS Remove Spawn Points Inside Imperial City.
It's like playing a deathmatch fps.

Except in a deathmatch FPS like Quake or Unreal one player could destroy a whole group.

In those games skill > numbers

In ESO: skill < numbers

MissBizz wrote: »

Not all groups want to PvP. Last night I grouped up with people, and it was clear before we started that the mission was to complete the quests. Just find some folks with the same intentions. Ask around in guild and zone chat

If that doesn't work... Play at 3am. PvE is pretty easy about that time.. Didn't run into anyone.. Lol

Yep. That is something that everyone should and can reasonably do.

I can do it and I totally don't have the most sniped up schedule possible and I am also a very normal regular
person.

sagitter wrote: »

Only 7 words:
PLS Remove Spawn Points Inside Imperial City.
It's like playing a deathmatch fps.

If only that was the case. I would have loved if the only point of the IC was fast mindless PVP slaughter without added BS and drama .PVP for the sake of killing crap.

Everyone wants the stones.
PVE oriented players want a safe way to get them. Zergs form.
More solo oriented PVX players don't have a a chance against gank groups that make not playing with a big group or zerg pointless.
No risk kamikaze trolling repeatedly on groups and zergs only to cause some frustration.
6 out 2 groups you get in are a complete uncoordinated mess with no goals.
Spinning in circles....

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

Tonight I was soloing in the IC districts collecting skyshards and looking for containers to loot, but was frequently jumped on by five or more EP players. (I'm AD.) Even though I tried to stay in stealth, it isn't always possible because of where the mobs are located. Soon as I would come out of stealth to clear a mob out of my way, the EP gankers swarmed. They also hung around the respawn area and also around the door to the next district. The PvP aspect makes doing quests and looting containers nearly impossible. If you're in a group, the group wants to PvP and kill mobs, not do the quests or take the time to loot containers. But if you go solo, it's crazy frustrating to be constantly jumped on by players of another faction while trying to follow a quest line.

Please don't misunderstand...I'm not blaming the other players for jumping me. It's the way IC is designed. Just when I would get a mob nearly dead, the other players would pounce. A couple would finish off the mob and the others would finish me off. Finally, I got angry and shut my computer off.

It isn't enough that ZOS gimped all players when 1.6 was released and effectively knocked everyone's progress back. It isn't enough that ZOS just did the same thing with this new release, effectively making us have to rebuild all our characters. No... Now they've put vr15-16 quests, crafting, mats and more in one limited, very frustrating zone. I've been continuously subbed to this game since March 2014, and tonight is the first time I've felt like giving it up.

Its how this entire game is designed, its mass PVP.

I think people needs to stop being kids, when they get something, they need to whine instead of be happy.

@Wolfenbelle I can sympathise. I'm a casual more PVE person...however crafting mats have lured me into IC.

I had a great experience grouping with a fellow guildie. From the start it was made clear that the intention was questing. One of us would pick up the quest from the board and share it with the other. ( Otherwise you get different districts to go to). I like to read the quests the first time through, guildie does not but waited while I did.

If we came across a chest we took turns to open them while the other kept a look out. I can reccomend getting the thieving passive to force locks if you've not got that already.This greatly reduces time spent vulnerable at a chest.

I also placed mines down whenever we were opening chests/ at a quest objective. This helped atleast stop people from getting within melee range unless they wanted to blow up for a bit . Although it's probably a big purple sign saying "people are here"...

We snuck around the whole time. Guildie had a Khajit and I've got dark stalker passive so we were fairly speedy. I can also reccomend the reduced sneaking cost passive from the thieving line too.

I surprised myself by managing to successfully evade mobs that had detected me..I ran/bolted around buildings and sneaked again..and it worked!

Of course we did die plenty, but we also managed to kill some players that tried to kill us. I got my first revenge kill . We did come across a player who ran away from us..figured they were just trying to do the quest so we left them alone. Once we spawned on a balcony ( arboretum I think)...turns out there was a group of enemy players spawn camping on the ledge next to us sniping anyone that jumped off the balcony.

We had to abandon the arena quest since there were loads of enemy players there. So we picked up another one and we're able to complete it. We also got killed at a quest objective but when we went back after it was empty...so a flexible mind frame helps too.

So I would have to agree with @MissBizz about finding folks with same intentions..With 2 people we weren't walking gods but it did make it possible to do some quests. Also I disregarded any TV stones other than the quest rewards. This helped me enjoy it way more. And finally if you have no TV stones on you and get killed- you've just wasted the enemies time..you can bet they will be dissapointed.

PS hope this helps..if you've already tried all this please disregard my advice ( since its from a PVP noob) I'd offer to group with you but I have no AD characters.

EDIT I also equipped a resto staff to off heal myself and guildie. And I slotted invisibility potions. We were completely different classes but as a pair we managed to accomplish something.

Dunno, apart from the very first day of release, even though servers are poplocked, majority of districts are now quiet. You find an occasional roaming gank group wandering between the districts but they don't stick around for long as there's not much for them to gank. I can now enjoy some 1 vs 1 encounters and farm some mobs. I start seeing some more action in Cyrodiil too.

I'm actually quite surprised how quickly the novelty of IC has died down, only been a few days, but it's understandable, there's only 1 quest line and the PvE players have left for the most part or farm somewhere quietly in the corner.
I mostly encounter the old, well known names from my daily Cyrodiil adventures now.

sagitter wrote: »

It's like playing a deathmatch fps.

You aren't kidding. My char seemed to get bugged last night and no skills or attacks would work. A mass of enemy faction players were right outside the spawn point. For the hell of it (and somewhat to distract them) I kept jumping off into the group, getting killed, respawning, and jumping back in again. I was able to "achieve" this sequence of death intervals: 20s, 16s, 10s, 10s, 12s, 21s, 15s - yes, 8 deaths in just over a minute and a half! I probably could have done better, but I paused to look at the death recap a couple of times

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

Tonight I was soloing in the IC districts collecting skyshards and looking for containers to loot, but was frequently jumped on by five or more EP players. (I'm AD.) Even though I tried to stay in stealth, it isn't always possible because of where the mobs are located. Soon as I would come out of stealth to clear a mob out of my way, the EP gankers swarmed. They also hung around the respawn area and also around the door to the next district. The PvP aspect makes doing quests and looting containers nearly impossible. If you're in a group, the group wants to PvP and kill mobs, not do the quests or take the time to loot containers. But if you go solo, it's crazy frustrating to be constantly jumped on by players of another faction while trying to follow a quest line.

Please don't misunderstand...I'm not blaming the other players for jumping me. It's the way IC is designed. Just when I would get a mob nearly dead, the other players would pounce. A couple would finish off the mob and the others would finish me off. Finally, I got angry and shut my computer off.

It isn't enough that ZOS gimped all players when 1.6 was released and effectively knocked everyone's progress back. It isn't enough that ZOS just did the same thing with this new release, effectively making us have to rebuild all our characters. No... Now they've put vr15-16 quests, crafting, mats and more in one limited, very frustrating zone. I've been continuously subbed to this game since March 2014, and tonight is the first time I've felt like giving it up.

Practice OP.

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

Tonight I was soloing in the IC districts collecting skyshards and looking for containers to loot, but was frequently jumped on by five or more EP players. (I'm AD.) Even though I tried to stay in stealth, it isn't always possible because of where the mobs are located. Soon as I would come out of stealth to clear a mob out of my way, the EP gankers swarmed. They also hung around the respawn area and also around the door to the next district. The PvP aspect makes doing quests and looting containers nearly impossible. If you're in a group, the group wants to PvP and kill mobs, not do the quests or take the time to loot containers. But if you go solo, it's crazy frustrating to be constantly jumped on by players of another faction while trying to follow a quest line.

Please don't misunderstand...I'm not blaming the other players for jumping me. It's the way IC is designed. Just when I would get a mob nearly dead, the other players would pounce. A couple would finish off the mob and the others would finish me off. Finally, I got angry and shut my computer off.

It isn't enough that ZOS gimped all players when 1.6 was released and effectively knocked everyone's progress back. It isn't enough that ZOS just did the same thing with this new release, effectively making us have to rebuild all our characters. No... Now they've put vr15-16 quests, crafting, mats and more in one limited, very frustrating zone. I've been continuously subbed to this game since March 2014, and tonight is the first time I've felt like giving it up.

Same issue I had with writs, If you were a solo player high level monsters keep you from getting to the writ survey location, they since made changes now 95% of the surveys have a clearer path. As for Cyrodiil skyshards they located in such a way solo players have near impossible time to collect them, which is silly most pvp people i know seek me out for crafting needs so why they have easier to collect way more skyshards? Some game aspects need be 50-50. There are some who like Pvp and some PvE, but don't force people to change play style when there so much to do already in the game. I love the game but little things take the fun out of it.

angelyn wrote: »

@Wolfenbelle I can sympathise. I'm a casual more PVE person...however crafting mats have lured me into IC.

I had a great experience grouping with a fellow guildie. From the start it was made clear that the intention was questing. One of us would pick up the quest from the board and share it with the other. ( Otherwise you get different districts to go to). I like to read the quests the first time through, guildie does not but waited while I did.

If we came across a chest we took turns to open them while the other kept a look out. I can reccomend getting the thieving passive to force locks if you've not got that already.This greatly reduces time spent vulnerable at a chest.

I also placed mines down whenever we were opening chests/ at a quest objective. This helped atleast stop people from getting within melee range unless they wanted to blow up for a bit . Although it's probably a big purple sign saying "people are here"...

We snuck around the whole time. Guildie had a Khajit and I've got dark stalker passive so we were fairly speedy. I can also reccomend the reduced sneaking cost passive from the thieving line too.

I surprised myself by managing to successfully evade mobs that had detected me..I ran/bolted around buildings and sneaked again..and it worked!

Of course we did die plenty, but we also managed to kill some players that tried to kill us. I got my first revenge kill . We did come across a player who ran away from us..figured they were just trying to do the quest so we left them alone. Once we spawned on a balcony ( arboretum I think)...turns out there was a group of enemy players spawn camping on the ledge next to us sniping anyone that jumped off the balcony.

We had to abandon the arena quest since there were loads of enemy players there. So we picked up another one and we're able to complete it. We also got killed at a quest objective but when we went back after it was empty...so a flexible mind frame helps too.

So I would have to agree with @MissBizz about finding folks with same intentions..With 2 people we weren't walking gods but it did make it possible to do some quests. Also I disregarded any TV stones other than the quest rewards. This helped me enjoy it way more. And finally if you have no TV stones on you and get killed- you've just wasted the enemies time..you can bet they will be dissapointed.

PS hope this helps..if you've already tried all this please disregard my advice ( since its from a PVP noob) I'd offer to group with you but I have no AD characters.

EDIT I also equipped a resto staff to off heal myself and guildie. And I slotted invisibility potions. We were completely different classes but as a pair we managed to accomplish something.

This is pretty much what I have said the last couple of days. Once you take the TelVar stones out of the equation, especially when it comes to doing the daily quests, you actually begin to enjoy the content rather than worrying about being killed and you end up laughing at the enemy for wasting their time killing you for nothing.

krees28b14_ESO wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

angelyn wrote: »

@Wolfenbelle I can sympathise. I'm a casual more PVE person...however crafting mats have lured me into IC.

I had a great experience grouping with a fellow guildie. From the start it was made clear that the intention was questing. One of us would pick up the quest from the board and share it with the other. ( Otherwise you get different districts to go to). I like to read the quests the first time through, guildie does not but waited while I did.

If we came across a chest we took turns to open them while the other kept a look out. I can reccomend getting the thieving passive to force locks if you've not got that already.This greatly reduces time spent vulnerable at a chest.

I also placed mines down whenever we were opening chests/ at a quest objective. This helped atleast stop people from getting within melee range unless they wanted to blow up for a bit . Although it's probably a big purple sign saying "people are here"...

We snuck around the whole time. Guildie had a Khajit and I've got dark stalker passive so we were fairly speedy. I can also reccomend the reduced sneaking cost passive from the thieving line too.

I surprised myself by managing to successfully evade mobs that had detected me..I ran/bolted around buildings and sneaked again..and it worked!

Of course we did die plenty, but we also managed to kill some players that tried to kill us. I got my first revenge kill . We did come across a player who ran away from us..figured they were just trying to do the quest so we left them alone. Once we spawned on a balcony ( arboretum I think)...turns out there was a group of enemy players spawn camping on the ledge next to us sniping anyone that jumped off the balcony.

We had to abandon the arena quest since there were loads of enemy players there. So we picked up another one and we're able to complete it. We also got killed at a quest objective but when we went back after it was empty...so a flexible mind frame helps too.

So I would have to agree with @MissBizz about finding folks with same intentions..With 2 people we weren't walking gods but it did make it possible to do some quests. Also I disregarded any TV stones other than the quest rewards. This helped me enjoy it way more. And finally if you have no TV stones on you and get killed- you've just wasted the enemies time..you can bet they will be dissapointed.

PS hope this helps..if you've already tried all this please disregard my advice ( since its from a PVP noob) I'd offer to group with you but I have no AD characters.

EDIT I also equipped a resto staff to off heal myself and guildie. And I slotted invisibility potions. We were completely different classes but as a pair we managed to accomplish something.

This is pretty much what I have said the last couple of days. Once you take the TelVar stones out of the equation, especially when it comes to doing the daily quests, you actually begin to enjoy the content rather than worrying about being killed and you end up laughing at the enemy for wasting their time killing you for nothing.

You win some you lose some. Just brush it off and go farm more stones. Have fun with it and keep an open mind.

No thanks.. I will keep to farming drops and not stones... I get rewarded more for the drops any ways.