Sithisvoid wrote: »Lol at 40k health and shields. You do know to get high shield you generally have to go high magika and low health right? Maybe in non vet they have 30k but not in vet. The reason they can absorb so much dmg is they keep reapplying the sheilds
hardcore_gmr wrote: »*gets popcorn*
I encourage anyone who is interested in a good laugh to actually put their own character aside for a second and read the comments here from the first post (which Btw is an obvious troll...on a related note, very well done sir, you managed to stir the pot without being obivious. You still haven't said where or how you came into this information that has got these folks all fired up, but you've managed to get people to fight like Zoe added it to the patch notes) to these words I write now. Comedy! So much butt hurt and angst, so much "why can't I beat this class that just stands there and cast shields and cfrags." My sides hurt, his is too good. I've invited others to view this thread so we rational folks can point and laugh at the level of immature BS being spread with each new commenter. Oh well....carry on, just wanted to let you all know that we are here....watching!
*gets chair....this is gone be gooood!*
Sithisvoid wrote: »Lol at 40k health and shields. You do know to get high shield you generally have to go high magika and low health right? Maybe in non vet they have 30k but not in vet. The reason they can absorb so much dmg is they keep reapplying the sheilds
Assuming you're a sorc. Don't wave off your own fart and act like it didn't smell lol. 9k harness magicka. 14k hardened ward is 23k stacked. Plus 15k hp (pretty normal) is 38k. Then eating 5k food puts you around 43k. Thats only 2 slots. Those are pretty normal numbers for a sorc. I won't even go into healig ward adding another to that. Bone shield is apparently broken right now so I wouldn't count that. Yes harness is magic based bUT doesn't stop healing ward from covering what harness would (harness is more viable bc it lasts almost 30s) this is without a spell damage set this is with a recovery (1700) light armor set and around 22k magicka vr7. So no you don't need to go heavy magicka to achieve the numbers. Only reason I'm using a recovery set is bc I'm working my way to cyrodiils light or soulshine set for frags.
hardcore_gmr wrote: »*gets popcorn*
I encourage anyone who is interested in a good laugh to actually put their own character aside for a second and read the comments here from the first post (which Btw is an obvious troll...on a related note, very well done sir, you managed to stir the pot without being obivious. You still haven't said where or how you came into this information that has got these folks all fired up, but you've managed to get people to fight like Zoe added it to the patch notes) to these words I write now. Comedy! So much butt hurt and angst, so much "why can't I beat this class that just stands there and cast shields and cfrags." My sides hurt, his is too good. I've invited others to view this thread so we rational folks can point and laugh at the level of immature BS being spread with each new commenter. Oh well....carry on, just wanted to let you all know that we are here....watching!
*gets chair....this is gone be gooood!*
What's up with you guys and trolling, stirring the pot? Seriously, I legitimately came here asking a question because I have a sorc. I've heard from countless people who play pvp religiously, mention this thing. You want credibility? King Richard, Infamous Sypher, talks from inside pvp; where apparently half you clowns wouldn't even dare touching. The funny things, the real trolls are the ones who call me a troll. No sense of anything combat related - Keep you're pve mindset outside of the thread if you can't shed light to the question.
leepalmer95 wrote: »Sithisvoid wrote: »Lol at 40k health and shields. You do know to get high shield you generally have to go high magika and low health right? Maybe in non vet they have 30k but not in vet. The reason they can absorb so much dmg is they keep reapplying the sheilds
Assuming you're a sorc. Don't wave off your own fart and act like it didn't smell lol. 9k harness magicka. 14k hardened ward is 23k stacked. Plus 15k hp (pretty normal) is 38k. Then eating 5k food puts you around 43k. Thats only 2 slots. Those are pretty normal numbers for a sorc. I won't even go into healig ward adding another to that. Bone shield is apparently broken right now so I wouldn't count that. Yes harness is magic based bUT doesn't stop healing ward from covering what harness would (harness is more viable bc it lasts almost 30s) this is without a spell damage set this is with a recovery (1700) light armor set and around 22k magicka vr7. So no you don't need to go heavy magicka to achieve the numbers. Only reason I'm using a recovery set is bc I'm working my way to cyrodiils light or soulshine set for frags.
Lol 14k hardened ward with 22k magicka xD if your going to try make a point don't just blatantly lie about it. You need about 35k for a 14k hardened ward, harness magicka is just a magicka shield. Also going 35k magicka means you give up a lot such a spell dmg and recovery and hp to get it that high.
Healing ward is a heal, you don't use it for the shield you use it for the heal if they healing ward shield is taking dmg you've gone wrong.
Lets not forget that a 15k shield isn't the same as 15k hp, shields don't have armour when you see that 12k dmg in your tooltip you'll hit 12k dmg on that shield so it will be down in 2 hits.
I'm so sick of people crying spreading misinformation about classes because they haven't learned to fight them or are just just at pvp and consistently blame classes.
Lets take a crack at all classes huh? Seems everyone is crying on this forum.
Nb's : Highest burst in the game, can avoid dmg all together by cloaking, you think sorc are Op? a magicka nb can cast healing ward and then infinite cloak until it's healed because someone who actually knows that he's doing will have enoigh sustain to infinite cloak and actually gain mana.
Dk's : You get permablockers who you can barely dmg, can't stun, will consistently stun you, spam a 'soft cc', spam an undodeable unblockable skill and lets not forgot will 100% be able to reflect all projectiles which is about 80% of a sorc's attacks.
Templars: Can outheal any dps in the game by far, he getting low? don't worry heal pop 1 button ignore your dps in be back to 100% in 2 seconds... fight on. Templars are literally 1 button characters, they either spam dark flare, Jesus beam or jabs.
OP Literally made up that they are trying to make it 1 shield only.
When asked for evidence, he does not provide it.
Loser.
leepalmer95 wrote: »Sithisvoid wrote: »Lol at 40k health and shields. You do know to get high shield you generally have to go high magika and low health right? Maybe in non vet they have 30k but not in vet. The reason they can absorb so much dmg is they keep reapplying the sheilds
Assuming you're a sorc. Don't wave off your own fart and act like it didn't smell lol. 9k harness magicka. 14k hardened ward is 23k stacked. Plus 15k hp (pretty normal) is 38k. Then eating 5k food puts you around 43k. Thats only 2 slots. Those are pretty normal numbers for a sorc. I won't even go into healig ward adding another to that. Bone shield is apparently broken right now so I wouldn't count that. Yes harness is magic based bUT doesn't stop healing ward from covering what harness would (harness is more viable bc it lasts almost 30s) this is without a spell damage set this is with a recovery (1700) light armor set and around 22k magicka vr7. So no you don't need to go heavy magicka to achieve the numbers. Only reason I'm using a recovery set is bc I'm working my way to cyrodiils light or soulshine set for frags.
Lol 14k hardened ward with 22k magicka xD if your going to try make a point don't just blatantly lie about it. You need about 35k for a 14k hardened ward, harness magicka is just a magicka shield. Also going 35k magicka means you give up a lot such a spell dmg and recovery and hp to get it that high.
Healing ward is a heal, you don't use it for the shield you use it for the heal if they healing ward shield is taking dmg you've gone wrong.
Lets not forget that a 15k shield isn't the same as 15k hp, shields don't have armour when you see that 12k dmg in your tooltip you'll hit 12k dmg on that shield so it will be down in 2 hits.
I'm so sick of people crying spreading misinformation about classes because they haven't learned to fight them or are just just at pvp and consistently blame classes.
Lets take a crack at all classes huh? Seems everyone is crying on this forum.
Nb's : Highest burst in the game, can avoid dmg all together by cloaking, you think sorc are Op? a magicka nb can cast healing ward and then infinite cloak until it's healed because someone who actually knows that he's doing will have enoigh sustain to infinite cloak and actually gain mana.
Dk's : You get permablockers who you can barely dmg, can't stun, will consistently stun you, spam a 'soft cc', spam an undodeable unblockable skill and lets not forgot will 100% be able to reflect all projectiles which is about 80% of a sorc's attacks.
Templars: Can outheal any dps in the game by far, he getting low? don't worry heal pop 1 button ignore your dps in be back to 100% in 2 seconds... fight on. Templars are literally 1 button characters, they either spam dark flare, Jesus beam or jabs.
-eats his icecream cone and leans back- No one forced you to stack magicka to get spell power to raise your wards. Why dont you try some buffs and armor..... Why dont you use Magelight morph to deal with NB cloakers or flare. DKs already getting nerfed so you bore us with that notion. Templars.. can hardly outheal getting smacked with 17-20k hits more importantly while getting cc locked, jabs is easy to dodge and dark flare is a 2second cast time not all that different then frags except a little less damage. debuffs instead of knock downs and doesnt get a proc. it would take 2-3 heals to cover the 1 hit. Beam has also been nerfed to only work well with executes and is getting nerfed again. So again.. the notion. And i wont go into the fact people are using cyrodiils light for the 25% damage reduce so breaking through the shields is hard as hell with someone running around with that on.
leepalmer95 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Sithisvoid wrote: »Lol at 40k health and shields. You do know to get high shield you generally have to go high magika and low health right? Maybe in non vet they have 30k but not in vet. The reason they can absorb so much dmg is they keep reapplying the sheilds
Assuming you're a sorc. Don't wave off your own fart and act like it didn't smell lol. 9k harness magicka. 14k hardened ward is 23k stacked. Plus 15k hp (pretty normal) is 38k. Then eating 5k food puts you around 43k. Thats only 2 slots. Those are pretty normal numbers for a sorc. I won't even go into healig ward adding another to that. Bone shield is apparently broken right now so I wouldn't count that. Yes harness is magic based bUT doesn't stop healing ward from covering what harness would (harness is more viable bc it lasts almost 30s) this is without a spell damage set this is with a recovery (1700) light armor set and around 22k magicka vr7. So no you don't need to go heavy magicka to achieve the numbers. Only reason I'm using a recovery set is bc I'm working my way to cyrodiils light or soulshine set for frags.
Lol 14k hardened ward with 22k magicka xD if your going to try make a point don't just blatantly lie about it. You need about 35k for a 14k hardened ward, harness magicka is just a magicka shield. Also going 35k magicka means you give up a lot such a spell dmg and recovery and hp to get it that high.
Healing ward is a heal, you don't use it for the shield you use it for the heal if they healing ward shield is taking dmg you've gone wrong.
Lets not forget that a 15k shield isn't the same as 15k hp, shields don't have armour when you see that 12k dmg in your tooltip you'll hit 12k dmg on that shield so it will be down in 2 hits.
I'm so sick of people crying spreading misinformation about classes because they haven't learned to fight them or are just just at pvp and consistently blame classes.
Lets take a crack at all classes huh? Seems everyone is crying on this forum.
Nb's : Highest burst in the game, can avoid dmg all together by cloaking, you think sorc are Op? a magicka nb can cast healing ward and then infinite cloak until it's healed because someone who actually knows that he's doing will have enoigh sustain to infinite cloak and actually gain mana.
Dk's : You get permablockers who you can barely dmg, can't stun, will consistently stun you, spam a 'soft cc', spam an undodeable unblockable skill and lets not forgot will 100% be able to reflect all projectiles which is about 80% of a sorc's attacks.
Templars: Can outheal any dps in the game by far, he getting low? don't worry heal pop 1 button ignore your dps in be back to 100% in 2 seconds... fight on. Templars are literally 1 button characters, they either spam dark flare, Jesus beam or jabs.
-eats his icecream cone and leans back- No one forced you to stack magicka to get spell power to raise your wards. Why dont you try some buffs and armor..... Why dont you use Magelight morph to deal with NB cloakers or flare. DKs already getting nerfed so you bore us with that notion. Templars.. can hardly outheal getting smacked with 17-20k hits more importantly while getting cc locked, jabs is easy to dodge and dark flare is a 2second cast time not all that different then frags except a little less damage. debuffs instead of knock downs and doesnt get a proc. it would take 2-3 heals to cover the 1 hit. Beam has also been nerfed to only work well with executes and is getting nerfed again. So again.. the notion. And i wont go into the fact people are using cyrodiils light for the 25% damage reduce so breaking through the shields is hard as hell with someone running around with that on.
1. Sorc are kind of forced to stack magicka if they are a magicka build. They wear light armour, so their armour rating is bad, hardened ward is the only defence they have, they don't have self heals, reflect projectiles, they can't cloak and avoid dmg all together.
2. You cc... shields, if your physical you have the get through 1 shield... one... say it with me here ONE shield. That amazingly isn't a 20k shield like some of you people think, if they've completely stacked magicka with a pet build then it may be 14k. But most are 10-12k which like i said 2 hits.
3. Put pressure and stop spamming 1 skill at a sorc, get them to waste stamina as soon as immunity is down, apply some dots until they run out of stamina... don't just spam snipe/wb/frags/jesus beam/ jabs/ flare ...
4. Wish people would stop acting like 20k frags are normal, there not. It's so obvious when a sorc is going to frag, there hand lights up purple it's quite visual. They shoot the slow frags at you, either dodge or block or reflect it's not hard. A 20k frag is when you have 0 spell resist, don't block, don't dodge, stand there and be hit by a lucky crit while being pretty much naked.
Templars can easily outheal any dps in the game. Jabs is unblockable/undodgeable heals and cc's.
I wouldn't say beam has been nerfed more like it's in like with other executes, what other execute could pull 5k dps outside of execute range.
FriedEggSandwich wrote: »This thread should be closed cos it's all toxic BS.
Oh my bad, Where should I re-open this to discuss combat and character mechanic issues?
You dont need to stack just magicka to get the higher wards. stacking 2 set bonus armor peices for spell damage and dual swords etc will boost it , entropy and stuff and yes Champion points as well. That aside.
You do realize sorc isnt the only class running around in light armor ..... I keep hearing about sorcs being weak so they shouldnt lose their shield stack. what about everyone else running around in light armor lmao.
So everyone knows sorcerers have only "1" shield skill right? Other than that everyone can stack shields. What about shield stacking tank dk? no one can kill him and he can do a lot of cc and also in god mod invincible.
And also frag is not op. you can block it easily and everyone block when they see you casting it or when they see giant blue glowing proc signal. Also you can interrupt if its not procced and being casted. And who can decide that frag is more op than spammable talons? or spammable suprise attack (if its used from stealth it gives enemy armor debuff + gives you spell resist + armor (from passive) + also does really good damage (spammable + no cast time) + also stuns (cloak) .
16k frag damage is op? Before imperial city update I've seen nightblades or everyclass can do that but I seen nightblades especially using whirlwind and doing 14k damage. Spammable, nocast and aoe. Thats sick.
ishilb14_ESO wrote: »Only noob sorcs shield stack all the time, the only time it is understandable is if you're running a small group and want to zerg bust, other than that, if a sorc absolutely needs more than hardened ward to stay alive and perform well then that sorc isn't very good.