Septimus_Magna wrote: »You are completely lost, so this will be my last response to you.
1) I provide valid reasons why HAs are suboptimal for burst, while you try to explain what burst is, like youre still trying to wrap your brain around the concept. We know what burst is. HAs are a suboptimal choice, because thats what it is. A choice.
Syphers example was, wait for a frag proc, curse, HA, frag. That is fing terrible.
My example was Detonation, Curse, Fury, Frag. By the time you cast fury, you are almost guaranteed a frag proc. You dont have to wait for it. Detonation takes just as long as a HA. It does more damage. It's AOE. It procs Frags. It goes through dodge roll. Its timed perfectly with a curse combo.
You don't have an argument.
2) I kill Sypher all the time, lol.
So detonation, curse, fury, frag does more damage than detonation, curse, fury, frag and fire staff heavy attack?
And Im the one who's lost? Come on, its getting ridiculous now. You have to wait 8 seconds for detonation, you can weave attacks in between but just before curse and deto go of you should charge a heavy/medium attack, not fully charged ofc only to time it before the curse explosion and follow up with cfrags.
This dude is so lost. Its 4 seconds. Its like its made for a curse combo.
http://esoacademy.com/skills/inevitable-detonation/
2) I kill Sypher all the time, lol.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Oh please, lets all stop discussing because you think you're right and everybody else is wrong..
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Seriously though, If I am wrong, I will admit it. Heavy attacks are not for Sorc PvP, mkay? At least not in this patch.
Go watch the video of Sypher where he explains why he uses fire staffs
You mean they guy who gave up free rent and a college education to stream ESO full time, but can no longer pay his rent? Lol. Sounds like a pretty smart guy. You should totally take advice from that guy! Better yet, send him some money, and dont forget to like and subscribe!
You cant even articulate why something is better or worse... Sheeple.
wow, i really hit something here it seems.
Thanks alot for all the feedback.
I can see that i will simply have to try it out, and see how it feels. But since i am a Dunmer Sorc, fire is usually a good goto. And i have my backbar set up semi offensively with restro, so i can use it against DKs. With restro channeling, curse and streak. So feel like having 2xchannel is a bit constricting.
For me the Disintegration chance is the key. Can anyone confirm what the health threshold is? Tooltip just says low health targets.
can also see someone is referencing use of Crushing Shock on DK. i thought that also got reflected but was just missing the animation? or am i missing a good counter to DK by not using that?
I also see some talk of weaving / HA improving chance of cfrag proc. I thought ONLY an ability will proc it. so no matter how much light or heavy attack you manage to weave in, it will not proc more? right?
leepalmer95 wrote: »wow, i really hit something here it seems.
Thanks alot for all the feedback.
I can see that i will simply have to try it out, and see how it feels. But since i am a Dunmer Sorc, fire is usually a good goto. And i have my backbar set up semi offensively with restro, so i can use it against DKs. With restro channeling, curse and streak. So feel like having 2xchannel is a bit constricting.
For me the Disintegration chance is the key. Can anyone confirm what the health threshold is? Tooltip just says low health targets.
can also see someone is referencing use of Crushing Shock on DK. i thought that also got reflected but was just missing the animation? or am i missing a good counter to DK by not using that?
I also see some talk of weaving / HA improving chance of cfrag proc. I thought ONLY an ability will proc it. so no matter how much light or heavy attack you manage to weave in, it will not proc more? right?
Crushing shock is a 'beam' skill so it can't get reflected ^^ , weaving is pretty much the best way to do dmg, build ultimate and proc frag all in one.
By light weaving with a light staff you cast crushing shock/force pulse as the same speed you would just spamming that one skill, the light attack will proc disintegrate as well as build ultimate very quickly. Also the heavy attack is useful vs those perm blocking wing dk's as the heavy attack goes nicely with curse ^^ as in curse will blow when the heavy attack ends so you can re apply while gaining mana.
Medium weave with a fire staff does a lot more dmg but you get crushing shock off slowing so your frag procs are slower, the medium attacks do quite a bit more dmg than light ones there also very good vs vamps ^^
What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.