Shock heavy attack is undodgeable and unreflactable. With small chance of proccing disintegration
Lol. Lightning is king for Sorc and always has been. IDK who keeps spreading misinformation but its ridiculously easy for anyone to test. Read your class passives.
That and fire was nerfed and lightning was buffed as of today.
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I just read the whole OP. Lol. If you hit me with a heavy fire attack from stealth Im going to faceroll you for being a noob. If you have the initiative, you dont waste it with a heavy attack. Christ people. Use your brain. In fact, you almost never want to heavy attack as a sorc in pvp. Light attack weave.
This sorc lesson has been brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Lol. Lightning is king for Sorc and always has been. IDK who keeps spreading misinformation but its ridiculously easy for anyone to test. Read your class passives.
That and fire was nerfed and lightning was buffed as of today.
EDIT
I just read the whole OP. Lol. If you hit me with a heavy fire attack from stealth Im going to faceroll you for being a noob. If you have the initiative, you dont waste it with a heavy attack. Christ people. Use your brain. In fact, you almost never want to heavy attack as a sorc in pvp. Light attack weave.
This sorc lesson has been brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Lol. Lightning is king for Sorc and always has been. IDK who keeps spreading misinformation but its ridiculously easy for anyone to test. Read your class passives.
That and fire was nerfed and lightning was buffed as of today.
EDIT
I just read the whole OP. Lol. If you hit me with a heavy fire attack from stealth Im going to faceroll you for being a noob. If you have the initiative, you dont waste it with a heavy attack. Christ people. Use your brain. In fact, you almost never want to heavy attack as a sorc in pvp. Light attack weave.
This sorc lesson has been brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Lol. Lightning is king for Sorc and always has been. IDK who keeps spreading misinformation but its ridiculously easy for anyone to test. Read your class passives.
That and fire was nerfed and lightning was buffed as of today.
EDIT
I just read the whole OP. Lol. If you hit me with a heavy fire attack from stealth Im going to faceroll you for being a noob. If you have the initiative, you dont waste it with a heavy attack. Christ people. Use your brain. In fact, you almost never want to heavy attack as a sorc in pvp. Light attack weave.
This sorc lesson has been brought to you by uncle Xeven.
I absolutely disagree, in pvp you want burst. Light attacks dont increase your burst by much, heavy attacks do. If you time your prox det, curse, fire staff heavy attack and cfrags at roughly the same time the burst is dangerous. With light attack weave you'll do more dps over a longer time but your burst is lower which gives your enemies more time to heal or shield themselves.
Its not like people try to heavy attack someone to death, its the combination of damage skills + a well timed heavy attack that is effective.
A sorc heavy attacking in PvP with fire is really, really, bad. It's a waste of time, a dps loss, leaves you vulnerable, and poses no threat to anyone, ever.
The arguments for sorc heavy fire attack in this thread are:
Charging it behind a wall.
Charging it from stealth.
You're fing kidding me, I hope.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Lol. Lightning is king for Sorc and always has been. IDK who keeps spreading misinformation but its ridiculously easy for anyone to test. Read your class passives.
That and fire was nerfed and lightning was buffed as of today.
EDIT
I just read the whole OP. Lol. If you hit me with a heavy fire attack from stealth Im going to faceroll you for being a noob. If you have the initiative, you dont waste it with a heavy attack. Christ people. Use your brain. In fact, you almost never want to heavy attack as a sorc in pvp. Light attack weave.
This sorc lesson has been brought to you by uncle Xeven.
I absolutely disagree, in pvp you want burst. Light attacks dont increase your burst by much, heavy attacks do. If you time your prox det, curse, fire staff heavy attack and cfrags at roughly the same time the burst is dangerous. With light attack weave you'll do more dps over a longer time but your burst is lower which gives your enemies more time to heal or shield themselves.
Its not like people try to heavy attack someone to death, its the combination of damage skills + a well timed heavy attack that is effective.
A sorc heavy attacking in PvP with fire is really, really, bad. It's a waste of time, a dps loss, leaves you vulnerable, and poses no threat to anyone, ever.
The arguments for sorc heavy fire attack in this thread are:
Charging it behind a wall.
Charging it from stealth.
You're fing kidding me, I hope.
What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Oh please, lets all stop discussing because you think you're right and everybody else is wrong..
Septimus_Magna wrote: »What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Oh please, lets all stop discussing because you think you're right and everybody else is wrong..
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Seriously though, If I am wrong, I will admit it. Heavy attacks are not for Sorc PvP, mkay? At least not in this patch.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Oh please, lets all stop discussing because you think you're right and everybody else is wrong..
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Seriously though, If I am wrong, I will admit it. Heavy attacks are not for Sorc PvP, mkay? At least not in this patch.
Go watch the video of Sypher where he explains why he uses fire staffs
Septimus_Magna wrote: »Septimus_Magna wrote: »What are you talking about? You can also use that time for detonation instead, which actually procs frags, does more damage, is aoe, goes through dodge roll etc etc etc.
Burst is NOT an argument. There are much better things available.
detonation curse fury frags soul assault
detonation curse fury frags meteor
etc
etc
etc
That is not an argument that favors heavy attacks. PERIOD. I have an "elitist" attitude because sheeple cant think for themselves.
This lesson on how to Sorc has been once again brought to you by uncle Xeven.
Oh please, lets all stop discussing because you think you're right and everybody else is wrong..
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
Seriously though, If I am wrong, I will admit it. Heavy attacks are not for Sorc PvP, mkay? At least not in this patch.
Go watch the video of Sypher where he explains why he uses fire staffs
You mean they guy who gave up free rent and a college education to stream ESO full time, but can no longer pay his rent? Lol. Sounds like a pretty smart guy. You should totally take advice from that guy! Better yet, send him some money, and dont forget to like and subscribe!
You cant even articulate why something is better or worse... Sheeple.
You are completely lost, so this will be my last response to you.
1) I provide valid reasons why HAs are suboptimal for burst, while you try to explain what burst is, like youre still trying to wrap your brain around the concept. We know what burst is. HAs are a suboptimal choice, because thats what it is. A choice.
Syphers example was, wait for a frag proc, curse, HA, frag. That is fing terrible.
My example was Detonation, Curse, Fury, Frag. By the time you cast fury, you are almost guaranteed a frag proc. You dont have to wait for it. Detonation takes just as long as a HA. It does more damage. It's AOE. It procs Frags. It goes through dodge roll. Its timed perfectly with a curse combo.
You don't have an argument.
2) I kill Sypher all the time, lol.
Septimus_Magna wrote: »You are completely lost, so this will be my last response to you.
1) I provide valid reasons why HAs are suboptimal for burst, while you try to explain what burst is, like youre still trying to wrap your brain around the concept. We know what burst is. HAs are a suboptimal choice, because thats what it is. A choice.
Syphers example was, wait for a frag proc, curse, HA, frag. That is fing terrible.
My example was Detonation, Curse, Fury, Frag. By the time you cast fury, you are almost guaranteed a frag proc. You dont have to wait for it. Detonation takes just as long as a HA. It does more damage. It's AOE. It procs Frags. It goes through dodge roll. Its timed perfectly with a curse combo.
You don't have an argument.
2) I kill Sypher all the time, lol.
So detonation, curse, fury, frag does more damage than detonation, curse, fury, frag and fire staff heavy attack?
And Im the one who's lost? Come on, its getting ridiculous now. You have to wait 8 seconds for detonation, you can weave attacks in between but just before curse and deto go of you should charge a heavy/medium attack, not fully charged ofc only to time it before the curse explosion and follow up with cfrags.