You're lucky you get to max out all 3 stats now.

It used to be that you can only upgrade a horse 50 times. That means you got 50 points to spread across the 3 stats in any fashion you wanted. And that was on a single horse. People would often purchase other horses to upgrade differing stats. AND you had to buy a horse on every character. Now you get to buy a horse and it's available to all characters.

No one said you had to upgrade the riding skill all the way.

Either you take the time, or you put up the cash.

I started a Sorc a few days ago and didnt want to have a 1 speed horse, so I spent like $30 and bought the riding lessons from crown store. That got me to 50 speed instantly. Made lvling much faster getting from grind spot to grind spot.

I fear this could become another example of PvP requirements being imposed on PvE. I quite understand why PvPers want the mounts maxed out and they want them maxed out now, but for PvE the present system of working for achievements in a MMORPG has much to commend it.

Perhaps, as skill balancing changes should be, this is something that could be applied differently to PvP and PvE. Then again, perhaps this isn't intended to be the kind of game where everyone enters PvP with instantly created characters with the same stats, perhaps there needs to be some allowance made for different levels of progression? If that's the case, then progression shouldn't be instant but something you work at over a period of time. Rather like the present system in fact !

Kobaal wrote: »

I started a Sorc a few days ago and didnt want to have a 1 speed horse, so I spent like $30 and bought the riding lessons from crown store. That got me to 50 speed instantly. Made lvling much faster getting from grind spot to grind spot.

so you are saying that every time I create a new character I should pay around 30$?

My main question is do you people see this as normal?? because to me it's just outrageous and something needs to be done about it.

Mitchblue wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I fear this could become another example of PvP requirements being imposed on PvE. I quite understand why PvPers want the mounts maxed out and they want them maxed out NOW , but for PvE the present system of working for achievements in a MMORPG has much to commend it.

Perhaps, as skill balancing changes should be, this is something that could be applied differently to PvP and PvE. Then again, perhaps this isn't intended to be the kind of game where everyone enters PvP with instantly created characters with the same stats, perhaps there needs to be some allowance made for different levels of progression? If that's the case, then progression shouldn't be instant but something you work at over a period of time. Rather like the present system in fact !

In PVE I'm on my mount about 5% of the time, maybe. Much better to just take a casual walk.. Especially if you farm Alchemy, no need to get off the mount every 15 seconds.

Absolutely, same here. I hardly use my mounts at all. One of the reasons I'm leveling so slowly is because it takes me so long to get everywhere due to harvesting all nodes ! Nonetheless, I regard their development as an integral part of my PvE progression.

Sorry about the italicised original post, I fixed it on edit by removing it entirely but for some reason although only one word was originally within the italics marks, the rest of the post followed suit.

solution is morning before work log in, the toons keep your alts at a stable especially the ones that you don't play and when done bring back to stable then, log in all your toons real quick and upgrade at once and be on your day then instead of 6months per toon you get 6 months for all 8 toons

Lightninvash wrote: »

solution is morning before work log in, the toons keep your alts at a stable especially the ones that you don't play and when done bring back to stable then, log in all your toons real quick and upgrade at once and be on your day then instead of 6months per toon you get 6 months for all 8 toons

"8 toons"? Well, that's the first account sorted...

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

I really don't get from where did they come up with the idea to upgrade 1% each day for 6 months straight , just to max out 1 character.

It is really pointless and tedious, and outrageous.

So if i have a lot of characters, I have to log in each day, open each and upgrade for 6 months? that is if all of them were there from the beginning and I didn't create others on the way.

Is there something something I'm missing here or any easier way to do it? (not talking about spending 180$ per character for full upgrade).

Imo at least it should be account wide, logging in everyday for 6 months is already long enough.

I'm with you. This is another feature that I understand why they don't want it to be too easy, but question why did they choose to make it this hard. I'd love to see the devs reasoning and the math that they used to pick this.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Kobaal wrote: »

I started a Sorc a few days ago and didnt want to have a 1 speed horse, so I spent like $30 and bought the riding lessons from crown store. That got me to 50 speed instantly. Made lvling much faster getting from grind spot to grind spot.

so you are saying that every time I create a new character I should pay around 30$?

My main question is do you people see this as normal?? because to me it's just outrageous and something needs to be done about it.

It's very normal. Things take time. Many games do this. It takes even longer to max out crafting.

I've upgraded my horse 68 times since launch. I'm glad that I put the time in to earn the benefit of 60 speed. I'd be pretty irritated if you could do it in half the time because waaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Crown Store...

Make players wait for something...

Then offer players a way not to wait by paying with real money...

Southpark explains it well for you. Z$S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2luhwy3KAE0

Rikal wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

I really don't get from where did they come up with the idea to upgrade 1% each day for 6 months straight , just to max out 1 character.

It is really pointless and tedious, and outrageous.

So if i have a lot of characters, I have to log in each day, open each and upgrade for 6 months? that is if all of them were there from the beginning and I didn't create others on the way.

Is there something something I'm missing here or any easier way to do it? (not talking about spending 180$ per character for full upgrade).

Imo at least it should be account wide, logging in everyday for 6 months is already long enough.

I'm with you. This is another feature that I understand why they don't want it to be too easy, but question why did they choose to make it this hard. I'd love to see the devs reasoning and the math that they used to pick this.

Dev 1: How do we best guarentee players will keep playing for 6 months therefore giving Zenimax the best opportunity to earn more revenue?
Dev 2: Let's make it take 6 months to fully upgrade a horse.
Dev 1: I like it. Now how do we do (fill in blank) to generate more revenue?

This is how the world works.

i log in every morning and feed my horses. Yesterday I finally had 2 characters maxed out on speed and stam. I'm not really worried about the baggage part.

It does take time, just like everything else.

Like many people have said, the wife and I both log into our characters each morning with that first, perfect cup of coffee.

We train our Mounts, and set up any researching if slots have opened up by then. That way, when we get home from our jobs, there's more time for actual adventuring.

It's become quite the pleasant part of our morning ritual, and our Mounts on our characters are getting some impressive stats and are getting pretty useful out in the wild.