Console: Should text chat be implemented with the IC patch?

Voretus · September 2015

Yes

NadiusMaximus wrote: »

You guys knew there was no text chat. You still bought the game instead of not buying it and letting ZOS know why.

Actually, I didn't know. I bought it a few days ago and didn't think they would have left chat options out of certain versions of the game.

EDIT: I didn't realize this post that I'm quoting was so old; still new to how these forums look, sorry!

Kleptobrainiac · September 2015

No

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Its time for you to accept the truth. Text chat is needed and wanted and will get added soon.

robkrush · September 2015

Yes

Lol these PC guys voting no and spamming convoluted arguments as to why console shouldn't have in game text chat.

This is as rediculous as console guys saying PC doesn't need controller support. Lololol.

If the majority of PC guys think controller support of a priority to improving their ESO experience, I support it. Wish they would do the same for us.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

As much as I want text chat, by now I have fully adapted to not having it.

I've gotten to VR14, made and banked my first half a million, have completed Dragonstar Arena(Multiple times), have been Emperor in PVP, made multiple guild connections and have several personal business relationships with some very amazing crafters.

This has all been done without using an in game text chat.

I do hope that those who do want text chat, find a way to improvise.

Get a better guild if stuff isn't happening when you're online. You deserve better!
You deserve to play the content that you wish to play!

But don't give me an excuse that text chat is the only way to get stuff done. Sure it's easier, but it's definitely not impossible without it, and unfortunately it's just not an option right now. I wish you all the best with ESO and I just hate to see so much effort thrown into the wrong direction when you could be making progress in game.

If there is a will, there is a way.

Learn to adapt and move on. Plenty of game to play and see.

EZgoin76 · September 2015

Yes

Eshelmen wrote: »

As much as I want text chat, by now I have fully adapted to not having it.

I've gotten to VR14, made and banked my first half a million, have completed Dragonstar Arena(Multiple times), have been Emperor in PVP, made multiple guild connections and have several personal business relationships with some very amazing crafters.

This has all been done without using an in game text chat.

I do hope that those who do want text chat, find a way to improvise.

Get a better guild if stuff isn't happening when you're online. You deserve better!
You deserve to play the content that you wish to play!

But don't give me an excuse that text chat is the only way to get stuff done. Sure it's easier, but it's definitely not impossible without it, and unfortunately it's just not an option right now. I wish you all the best with ESO and I just hate to see so much effort thrown into the wrong direction when you could be making progress in game.

If there is a will, there is a way.

Learn to adapt and move on. Plenty of game to play and see.

I have no problem using VC either. No text chat really changes nothing for me. That doesn't change the fact that no text chat, in any form, alienates thousands of players.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

As much as I want text chat, by now I have fully adapted to not having it.

I've gotten to VR14, made and banked my first half a million, have completed Dragonstar Arena(Multiple times), have been Emperor in PVP, made multiple guild connections and have several personal business relationships with some very amazing crafters.

This has all been done without using an in game text chat.

I do hope that those who do want text chat, find a way to improvise.

Get a better guild if stuff isn't happening when you're online. You deserve better!
You deserve to play the content that you wish to play!

But don't give me an excuse that text chat is the only way to get stuff done. Sure it's easier, but it's definitely not impossible without it, and unfortunately it's just not an option right now. I wish you all the best with ESO and I just hate to see so much effort thrown into the wrong direction when you could be making progress in game.

If there is a will, there is a way.

Learn to adapt and move on. Plenty of game to play and see.

I have no problem using VC either. No text chat really changes nothing for me. That doesn't change the fact that no text chat, in any form, alienates thousands of players.

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Siniztor · September 2015

Yes

Sadly the relationship or lack of from the develpors and the console side is whats gonna really hurt this game..This Text chat subject as a example..this game could be awsome and last a long time..but all its gonna take is one MMORPG where the Dev's A- have played MMORPGS and B- listen to the needs of console people to ruin this game...If DBG dose bring EQ on console many will jump ship from here but as of now its the best option we have

Asherons_Call · September 2015

Yes

Voretus wrote: »

I would really like to be able to chat as an option. I actually purchased the game this week and wasn't aware before getting it that there wasn't an option to be able to chat... I just had never imagined.

It's more immersive to me than voice chat, easier, lets me play in better settings and atmospheres and be able to talk to people in my house easier, lets me imagine my own voices for both myself and others instead of (trying not to be offensive) random teenagers and normal guys.

Also would be nice for purposes of roleplaying since to be honest my own voice is both kind of grating and I have a lisp and don't really fit what a cool sneaky khajiit would sound like.

This cracked me up. I feel you man I'm not the best at spoken word either.. I've always been more articulate in text. There are a couple of people in my guild that have such annoying voices that I had to block them... I didn't want to do it but really had no other option. I've also had to block annoying 10 year olds and people that insist on using $2 mics

robkrush · September 2015

Yes

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Eshelmen wrote: »

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Brainstorm with us. What idea do you have to set things up using our consoles without using voice? Say I want to look for a group to run the daily pledge with.

JackalWynter · September 2015

Yes

If text chat is not implemented, I doubt I'll still be playing this game in three months.

If text chat is implemented, I expect I'll still be playing in three years.

This is a big deal not only to me, but to an awful lot of console players from what I gather. How ridiculous to only have one form of communication in an mmo. Seriously I might as well be playing Dark Souls for the amount of interaction there is between players.

In a whole week of play I have had one stranger speak to me.. once

There is a massive gaping black hole in the middle of this amazing game, that hole is where text chat should be, and if it isn't put in place soon, I'll be leaving soon and many others will too.

cerrudo33 · September 2015

Yes

Well I guess one way to get our point across is to also talk with our wallets and either unsub, don't buy dlc, or the drastic route of stop playing...

The problem is the game is enjoyable but the lack of a WORKING group finder is turning people off as we speak. IF the tools already provided to us actually worked, then yes their arbitrary choice to remove text in consoles COULD have worked but we as human beings are inherently lazy and will take the path of least resistance. We know text chat, it works. It works for trading (yes even with spam), grouping, chatting and coordination, we know it works because other CONSOLE "mmos" have done it.

This thing known as a group finder should just be deleted from the game and free up processing space, the guild traders take effort (hence the mass desire for trading chat) but work ok on PC, noticeably less in console (no adding to track sales etc). The voice chat though, I have no complaints and it's probably the best working in game chat I've come across BUT it doesn't do everything...

I'm currently still subbed to try out the IC DLC but I'm nearing my monetary end with this company/game. I can't make a developer do what I want them to, it's their company after all BUT I can choose to not give them anymore money/support as I'm not keen on the new "balancing" that's out on PC, the crafting hit taken and the lack of text chat DISCUSSION.

*end rant*

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

robkrush wrote: »

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Eshelmen wrote: »

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Brainstorm with us. What idea do you have to set things up using our consoles without using voice? Say I want to look for a group to run the daily pledge with.

If you really cared about progressing in this game, by now you should have 5 guilds that you honestly love and that are constantly active.

As well, if you do have 5 guiilds with say 400-500 players per guild, and about 30-50 are online at all times, then that's easily 120-200 people online at any given time.( You're telling me that 120-200 players online, noone is available? I suppose you've never tried. Oh and it's hilarious to grind out a 100-150 hour story but can't spend 20 mins asking guild mates to join up, huh?)

If you are not part of 5 guilds, I suggest that you start looking, this is only wasting your time by not having this.

This is an absolute must, to have 5 amazingly active guilds. How do you find them? Simple, ask for an invite. If that guild isn't what you're looking for, then look again and again and again. MMOS are about grinding, why not grind to find the perfect guild for yourself? And you know what's funny? It doesn't have to be a grind, if you only plugged in your mic once in a while and said hello every now and then. We talk to our parents and their odd friends, we say hi to our friends and people at the stores here and there. So why not in a game that you know everyone around you has the same interest? It makes zero sense.

As for joining groups in general. Don't. This is an obvious flaw in the game. Group Finder is full of crap and a waste of anyone's time. But you know this.

IF by now that none of you have several new friends from ESO on your PSN friends list, then you are the one not doing it right. OR whatever XBOX 1 has.

In no way shape or form do I blame ZoS for players lack of effort in finding a compromise. I blame the players.
Find people that you connect with, use the PS4 app on your phone to instantly message, it is much easier.
And for the 5 guilds that you finally have? Get on guild chat here and there and just say hello for once. It's not hard.

I'm not asking you to be a social butterfly, I'm asking you to move forward and enjoy the game for what it is.

If you look back a few posts, you'll see my achievements and what I've been able to accomplish.

Also, this is a handy tool that even can be used on a tablet or smart phone. To directly answer your question and if you MUST avoid the first things I said, then please do yourself a favor and just try this link.

http://www.esotulfg.com/

It's either you adapt, or you can say bye bye to the game, because whether we all like it or not, text chat is not an option right now. I choose to adapt and enjoy the game that I paid for instead of crying about something I honestly haven't needed .

I am a 15 year MMO Vet, and I know the ins and outs of text chat. But, with all due respect, it's not coming.

If you must leave, leave, but if you stay, just know you're only wasting your time by not finding out how to do things.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

cerrudo33 wrote: »

The problem is the game is enjoyable but the lack of a WORKING group finder is turning people off as we speak. IF the tools already provided to us actually worked, then yes their arbitrary choice to remove text in consoles COULD have worked but we as human beings are inherently lazy and will take the path of least resistance. *

And you blame ZoS for your lack of effort?

Maybe it's the other MMOS whom should be blamed for making you this way.

bareheiny · September 2015

Yes

Eshelmen wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

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Eshelmen wrote: »

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Brainstorm with us. What idea do you have to set things up using our consoles without using voice? Say I want to look for a group to run the daily pledge with.

robkrush wrote: »

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Eshelmen wrote: »

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Brainstorm with us. What idea do you have to set things up using our consoles without using voice? Say I want to look for a group to run the daily pledge with.

If you really cared about progressing in this game, by now you should have 5 guilds that you honestly love and that are constantly active.

As well, if you do have 5 guiilds with say 400-500 players per guild, and about 30-50 are online at all times, then that's easily 120-200 people online at any given time.( You're telling me that 120-200 players online, noone is available? I suppose you've never tried. Oh and it's hilarious to grind out a 100-150 hour story but can't spend 20 mins asking guild mates to join up, huh?)

If you are not part of 5 guilds, I suggest that you start looking, this is only wasting your time by not having this.

This is an absolute must, to have 5 amazingly active guilds. How do you find them? Simple, ask for an invite. If that guild isn't what you're looking for, then look again and again and again. MMOS are about grinding, why not grind to find the perfect guild for yourself? And you know what's funny? It doesn't have to be a grind, if you only plugged in your mic once in a while and said hello every now and then. We talk to our parents and their odd friends, we say hi to our friends and people at the stores here and there. So why not in a game that you know everyone around you has the same interest? It makes zero sense.

As for joining groups in general. Don't. This is an obvious flaw in the game. Group Finder is full of crap and a waste of anyone's time. But you know this.

IF by now that none of you have several new friends from ESO on your PSN friends list, then you are the one not doing it right. OR whatever XBOX 1 has.

In no way shape or form do I blame ZoS for players lack of effort in finding a compromise. I blame the players.
Find people that you connect with, use the PS4 app on your phone to instantly message, it is much easier.
And for the 5 guilds that you finally have? Get on guild chat here and there and just say hello for once. It's not hard.

I'm not asking you to be a social butterfly, I'm asking you to move forward and enjoy the game for what it is.

If you look back a few posts, you'll see my achievements and what I've been able to accomplish.

Also, this is a handy tool that even can be used on a tablet or smart phone. To directly answer your question and if you MUST avoid the first things I said, then please do yourself a favor and just try this link.

http://www.esotulfg.com/

It's either you adapt, or you can say bye bye to the game, because whether we all like it or not, text chat is not an option right now. I choose to adapt and enjoy the game that I paid for instead of crying about something I honestly haven't needed .

I am a 15 year MMO Vet, and I know the ins and outs of text chat. But, with all due respect, it's not coming.

If you must leave, leave, but if you stay, just know you're only wasting your time by not finding out how to do things.

Ask for group members in each of those 5 guilds? With multiple voice channels each, trying to talk over other folk?

And then miss a response because you've just switched channels to one of the other guilds?

Voice has it's place...but honestly, I don't think that place is as a LFG tool.

I could adapt and survive (to condense your view as I understand it), but should I have to? I'm loving ESO....and I haven't even made it to L50 yet (restricted game time, focus on crafting....and a tendency to create new characters after a short period of time). But my longevity in the game will be directly tied to the ability to communicate easily with others.

And for various reasons, voice just won't cut it.

Dahkoht · September 2015

Yes

Just wait until the cluster of a patch hits the console. Forcing health bars on , thats right , taking away the option to keep them hidden.

Some of the anti-text crusaders are already up in arms about not having the option to turn all that off.

Ironic isn't it , they want the options they want , just don't care about options others want.

EZgoin76 · September 2015

Yes

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

bareheiny wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

]

Eshelmen wrote: »

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Brainstorm with us. What idea do you have to set things up using our consoles without using voice? Say I want to look for a group to run the daily pledge with.

robkrush wrote: »

]

Eshelmen wrote: »

If players can figure how to use text chat properly in other games, they can figure how to set up things using their consoles messaging options too, with out using voice.

Again, like I said, it's unfortunate that it isn't in game, but there is so much to do and so many ways to going about and doing them without an in gametext chat.

Brainstorm with us. What idea do you have to set things up using our consoles without using voice? Say I want to look for a group to run the daily pledge with.

If you really cared about progressing in this game, by now you should have 5 guilds that you honestly love and that are constantly active.

As well, if you do have 5 guiilds with say 400-500 players per guild, and about 30-50 are online at all times, then that's easily 120-200 people online at any given time.( You're telling me that 120-200 players online, noone is available? I suppose you've never tried. Oh and it's hilarious to grind out a 100-150 hour story but can't spend 20 mins asking guild mates to join up, huh?)

If you are not part of 5 guilds, I suggest that you start looking, this is only wasting your time by not having this.

This is an absolute must, to have 5 amazingly active guilds. How do you find them? Simple, ask for an invite. If that guild isn't what you're looking for, then look again and again and again. MMOS are about grinding, why not grind to find the perfect guild for yourself? And you know what's funny? It doesn't have to be a grind, if you only plugged in your mic once in a while and said hello every now and then. We talk to our parents and their odd friends, we say hi to our friends and people at the stores here and there. So why not in a game that you know everyone around you has the same interest? It makes zero sense.

As for joining groups in general. Don't. This is an obvious flaw in the game. Group Finder is full of crap and a waste of anyone's time. But you know this.

IF by now that none of you have several new friends from ESO on your PSN friends list, then you are the one not doing it right. OR whatever XBOX 1 has.

In no way shape or form do I blame ZoS for players lack of effort in finding a compromise. I blame the players.
Find people that you connect with, use the PS4 app on your phone to instantly message, it is much easier.
And for the 5 guilds that you finally have? Get on guild chat here and there and just say hello for once. It's not hard.

I'm not asking you to be a social butterfly, I'm asking you to move forward and enjoy the game for what it is.

If you look back a few posts, you'll see my achievements and what I've been able to accomplish.

Also, this is a handy tool that even can be used on a tablet or smart phone. To directly answer your question and if you MUST avoid the first things I said, then please do yourself a favor and just try this link.

http://www.esotulfg.com/

It's either you adapt, or you can say bye bye to the game, because whether we all like it or not, text chat is not an option right now. I choose to adapt and enjoy the game that I paid for instead of crying about something I honestly haven't needed .

I am a 15 year MMO Vet, and I know the ins and outs of text chat. But, with all due respect, it's not coming.

If you must leave, leave, but if you stay, just know you're only wasting your time by not finding out how to do things.

Ask for group members in each of those 5 guilds? With multiple voice channels each, trying to talk over other folk?

And then miss a response because you've just switched channels to one of the other guilds?

Voice has it's place...but honestly, I don't think that place is as a LFG tool.

I could adapt and survive (to condense your view as I understand it), but should I have to? I'm loving ESO....and I haven't even made it to L50 yet (restricted game time, focus on crafting....and a tendency to create new characters after a short period of time). But my longevity in the game will be directly tied to the ability to communicate easily with others.

And for various reasons, voice just won't cut it.

Your ability to communicate with others is based on you. Noone else and not ZoS.

Like you said, multiple guild channels and with multiple guilds, it can become hectic, sure. But everytime you try to speak, you're over run with annoying people in your guild voice channel? I think not, and think that's a tad exaggerated.

And like I said, a lot of guilds will organize their voice channels appropriately, 1 for general 2 for pvp, etc, etc....

All I'm getting from these responses is "Well, such and such" instead of "Alright, I'll try it out".

Where is the positive attitude in all of you ?
Like what the heck?

Tholian1 · September 2015

Yes

Dahkoht wrote: »

Just wait until the cluster of a patch hits the console. Forcing health bars on , thats right , taking away the option to keep them hidden.

Some of the anti-text crusaders are already up in arms about not having the option to turn all that off.

Ironic isn't it , they want the options they want , just don't care about options others want.

Our health bars are already stuck on if we use a consumable. Nothing new for us.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

Dahkoht · September 2015

Yes

Tholian1 wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

Just wait until the cluster of a patch hits the console. Forcing health bars on , thats right , taking away the option to keep them hidden.

Some of the anti-text crusaders are already up in arms about not having the option to turn all that off.

Ironic isn't it , they want the options they want , just don't care about options others want.

Our health bars are already stuck on if we use a consumable. Nothing new for us.

You're kidding ?

Mother of God , if you all have issues still from launch , prepare to be Deliverance'd with this fubar of a patch.

Dahkoht · September 2015

Yes

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

Easily and enjoyably are two different things.

Some like to play an mmorpg without the screeching of idiots , hearing just the game , and still communicating with others.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

Dahkoht wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

Easily and enjoyably are two different things.

Some like to play an mmorpg without the screeching of idiots , hearing just the game , and still communicating with others.

And some figure out how to tuneout the annoying crap, that has nothing to do with progressing through the game by themselves or with people they connect with .

Anywho.....
Then I guess ESO on console just isn't for you

Tholian1 · September 2015

Yes

Dahkoht wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

Dahkoht wrote: »

Just wait until the cluster of a patch hits the console. Forcing health bars on , thats right , taking away the option to keep them hidden.

Some of the anti-text crusaders are already up in arms about not having the option to turn all that off.

Ironic isn't it , they want the options they want , just don't care about options others want.

Our health bars are already stuck on if we use a consumable. Nothing new for us.

You're kidding ?

Mother of God , if you all have issues still from launch , prepare to be Deliverance'd with this fubar of a patch.

Actually I might be slightly wrong. My bars only show when a resource is used, but if I use food or drink, they show all the time. I haven't tried turning them off when that happens.

bareheiny · September 2015

Yes

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

What works for you may not work for me.

Honestly, I fail to see how options can be a bad thing.

My play-time and environment aren't conducive to voice chat, and I also find it difficult to focus on what's going on in a noisy environment where multiple people are trying to talk over one another. Is that a ZOS issue? Only if they want my money.

If ZOS don't want my money, that's on them....not me. I'll take it elsewhere and find something that does meet my requirements / needs / expectations.

But I have plenty of time....I know I can run leveling instances without voice (while I've only run a few, nobody ever said boo). I have plenty of leveling and crafting to do, maps to explore and quests to run.

Dahkoht · September 2015

Yes

bareheiny wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

What works for you may not work for me.

Honestly, I fail to see how options can be a bad thing.

My play-time and environment aren't conducive to voice chat, and I also find it difficult to focus on what's going on in a noisy environment where multiple people are trying to talk over one another. Is that a ZOS issue? Only if they want my money.

If ZOS don't want my money, that's on them....not me. I'll take it elsewhere and find something that does meet my requirements / needs / expectations.

But I have plenty of time....I know I can run leveling instances without voice (while I've only run a few, nobody ever said boo). I have plenty of leveling and crafting to do, maps to explore and quests to run.

Selfishness. 100%.

They want you to not be able to play your way , only their way.

Pretty much sums it up.

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

bareheiny wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

What works for you may not work for me.

Honestly, I fail to see how options can be a bad thing.

My play-time and environment aren't conducive to voice chat, and I also find it difficult to focus on what's going on in a noisy environment where multiple people are trying to talk over one another. Is that a ZOS issue? Only if they want my money.

If ZOS don't want my money, that's on them....not me. I'll take it elsewhere and find something that does meet my requirements / needs / expectations.

But I have plenty of time....I know I can run leveling instances without voice (while I've only run a few, nobody ever said boo). I have plenty of leveling and crafting to do, maps to explore and quests to run.

Yet the same stuff is always talked about
"I can't do this" or "That's not how I want to play"
Yet, how about we talk about that there IS NO other option?

Do you think we all wanted this? I surely didn't , but hey, that's the game.
I'm just saying, there are ways to compromise FOR NOW to get stuff done, until there is a text chat option , and if there isn't, YAY you atleast figured out how to play an MMO with out it!

If any of you are on PS4 N/A, I'd love to do dungeons anytime, just message me on here.

And technically, if you have the game, ZOS already has your money

dday3six · September 2015

Yes

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

How do you go from can become hectic, sure in one comment to pretty easily in the other? Also why do you assume that everyone's expeirence is going to mirror your own?

Frankly I've tried more Guilds then I count. I've never in fact refused a guild invite, when not at 5. I have always looked over the roster and popped in Guild Chat at least a few times. I'm still looking for a guild. I've scoured the internet, looking for one, and done just about everything I can think of, including standing next to the Undaunted stating that I was looking for one. So I don't have a positive attitude because I have tried, and it's not working.

NewBlacksmurf · September 2015

No

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

I get it but I come from PC and used text chat since 1990's...now to be fair playing on console or someone who is most comfortable on console has little to no interest in text chat.

The customer base is split a few ways so the compromise idea we were discussing could be as close as possible to a happy median. One reality tho will be that ppl who are console guys will use the console. It's soooo many ppl that don't even use the UI on TESO and instead use Xbox cause it's worse than the Xbox options. They snap do their deal n keep it moving.
You'll add text chat in any form and the forum crowd will be in the text chat bucket alone. Voice chat peeps in a bucket and some spill over to each so I'm not sure any of the issues will be resolved but if options are what ppl want then there us go.

I do see that the larger issue is the PS4 and it's lacking options compared to Xbox one so I get why the topic is here but if polled you'd see a ton of ps4 and less of Xbox one in this topic. Odd as you'd think it would be the opposit but it's not when polled in console beta.

I just want ZOS to focus on fixing the things that don't work and want this topic to go away.
Add it as a menu option or whatever or say...nope never happening.

Ppl know I feel they've said that in a corp way but it's ZOS so they may change their tune

Eshelmen · September 2015

Yes

dday3six wrote: »

Eshelmen wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Some people seem to be completely missing the point for the need of some form of in game text chat. It's not a matter of being able to adapt. It's a matter of not being able to adapt. Are you going to keep spouting the same nonsense to the hearing impaired, introverts, and the women I've heard being harassed and degraded and no longer want to talk or have left the game completely because a fair share of people playing the game have degraded to adolescent behavior since there are no mods in VC.

Even Blacksmurf doesn't mind some type of text chat as long as it isn't on screen. It being part of the social menu isn't a bad idea. One last thing. How does anyone already doing all the game has to offer with no problems, this includes me, have any right to tell the people that can't, because of one reason or another, adapt to a system that never thought of you to begin with.

And some people don't understand that everything CAN be done in ESO with out text chat and actually done pretty easily.

How do you go from can become hectic, sure in one comment to pretty easily in the other? Also why do you assume that everyone's expeirence is going to mirror your own?

Frankly I've tried more Guilds then I count. I've never in fact refused a guild invite, when not at 5. I have always looked over the roster and popped in Guild Chat at least a few times. I'm still looking for a guild. I've scoured the internet, looking for one, and done just about everything I can think of, including standing next to the Undaunted stating that I was looking for one. So I don't have a positive attitude because I have tried, and it's not working.

Being hectic in a voice channel is different than easily getting stuff done.

If you're on PS4 and N/A , I can help you.

Ask yourselves this question.

"How on earth, is there people flourishing around me and I'm stuck?"

dday3six · September 2015

Yes

Eshelmen wrote: »

And technically, if you have the game, ZOS already has your money

Just for reference. A bulk distributer in the case of hard copy paid ZOS for it long before it even reached store shelves. In the case of digital. Sony and Microsoft pay for the lisencing of X digital units, and renew as needed. In both cases ZOS got the money before the consumer was ever directly involved.