Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

ZoS says no. Then says it has nothing new to say about addressing text chat. Why is this still being bumped? It's over and that's okay. C'mon guys, let's hug this one out, aye?



The tears were delicious but all things must pass.

... after mass outcries from the playerbase they changed this.

Exactly. So now you see why this whole text chat thing has lost.

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

ZoS says no. Then says it has nothing new to say about addressing text chat. Why is this still being bumped? It's over and that's okay. C'mon guys, let's hug this one out, aye?



The tears were delicious but all things must pass.

... after mass outcries from the playerbase they changed this.

Exactly. So now you see why this whole text chat thing has lost.

I see no logic in this post....sorry.

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

ZoS says no. Then says it has nothing new to say about addressing text chat. Why is this still being bumped? It's over and that's okay. C'mon guys, let's hug this one out, aye?



The tears were delicious but all things must pass.

... after mass outcries from the playerbase they changed this.

Exactly. So now you see why this whole text chat thing has lost.

We'll continue to fight for text chat mate, even if this post is still being bumped in 2020. In cases that are dire to the game's overall community communication whilst online like this we aren't going to accept no. Not from Zenimax and not from you.

If this thread is in anyway affecting your time personally in a negative way on this forum there is a tab to report it to the admins. I suggest you use it or move on. Or just keeping bumping the post! Up to you! Hope this helped.

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

ZoS says no. Then says it has nothing new to say about addressing text chat. Why is this still being bumped? It's over and that's okay. C'mon guys, let's hug this one out, aye?



The tears were delicious but all things must pass.

... after mass outcries from the playerbase they changed this.

Exactly. So now you see why this whole text chat thing has lost.

We'll continue to fight for text chat mate, even if this post is still being bumped in 2020. In cases that are dire to the game's overall community communication whilst online like this we aren't going to accept no. Not from Zenimax and not from you.

If this thread is in anyway affecting your time personally in a negative way on this forum there is a tab to report it to the admins. I suggest you use it or move on. Or just keeping bumping the post! Up to you! Hope this helped.

I'll probably just continue to bump it every now and then when I'm bored & it pops up on page one. Once IC drops I'm sure Zen will close this thread anyway. It's fairly obvious that it was the reason they consolidated the topics to this thread.

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

ZoS says no. Then says it has nothing new to say about addressing text chat. Why is this still being bumped? It's over and that's okay. C'mon guys, let's hug this one out, aye?



The tears were delicious but all things must pass.

... after mass outcries from the playerbase they changed this.

Exactly. So now you see why this whole text chat thing has lost.

I see no logic in this post....sorry.

That's not surprising.

But don't worry, I'll spoon feed you. Mass outcries would get things done as you have indicated. Hence the changes to IC access.

The same 37 people bumping a dead thread week after week is not really a " mass outcry". It's more like...

Chieve wrote: »

I just want some clarification on this thread...

So where did ZoS say no? I'm just curious...

(I do believe they will add it in if we do want, I've seen post by ZoS that, originally they didn't have in mind, but if the community wanted it, they would add it in...)

And I'm not sure if my memory is bad and if anyone said this but it never seemed to be answered I think, or at least not clear enough for me to understand, because I am trying to understand the none text chat side...

But why would you not want in in when it's implemented?

From what I read it seems like it want to force people to use voice chat or are afraid people are going to try talking and fighting...

Or it seems like you don't want another format of communication , mainly. Excuse you prefer to play alone unless you absolutely have to communicate for a specific part of the game.

It is a MMO...so talking to other r players is supposed to be a big aspect of this game.

I don't really understand why people are fighting so hard to not have it implemented when most players want it and would like to use it to socialize with other people. And for those who don't want to talk can just turn it off...I really don't understand can someone in the no group clarify this?

Chieve wrote: »

I just want some clarification on this thread...

So where did ZoS say no? I'm just curious...

(I do believe they will add it in if we do want, I've seen post by ZoS that, originally they didn't have in mind, but if the community wanted it, they would add it in...)

And I'm not sure if my memory is bad and if anyone said this but it never seemed to be answered I think, or at least not clear enough for me to understand, because I am trying to understand the none text chat side...

But why would you not want in in when it's implemented?

From what I read it seems like you want to force people to use voice chat or are afraid people are going to try talking and fighting...

Or it seems like you don't want another form of communication , mainly. Or maybe you prefer to play alone unless you absolutely have to communicate for a specific part of the game.

It is a MMO...so talking to other players is supposed to be a big aspect of this game.

I don't really understand why people are fighting so hard to not have it implemented when most players want it and would like to use it to socialize with other people. And for those who don't want to talk can just turn it off...I really don't understand can someone in the no group clarify this?

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

Chieve wrote: »

I just want some clarification on this thread...

So where did ZoS say no? I'm just curious...

(I do believe they will add it in if we do want, I've seen post by ZoS that, originally they didn't have in mind, but if the community wanted it, they would add it in...)

And I'm not sure if my memory is bad and if anyone said this but it never seemed to be answered I think, or at least not clear enough for me to understand, because I am trying to understand the none text chat side...

But why would you not want in in when it's implemented?

From what I read it seems like you want to force people to use voice chat or are afraid people are going to try talking and fighting...

Or it seems like you don't want another form of communication , mainly. Or maybe you prefer to play alone unless you absolutely have to communicate for a specific part of the game.

It is a MMO...so talking to other players is supposed to be a big aspect of this game.

I don't really understand why people are fighting so hard to not have it implemented when most players want it and would like to use it to socialize with other people. And for those who don't want to talk can just turn it off...I really don't understand can someone in the no group clarify this?

Welcome to the thread and whoa have you opened yourself up for some frustration by asking these questions in here haha but I'll try to help without being too bias ... (I'm on your side and I was just as outraged by such a defiance for text chat haha).

Now we have some pretty damn stale (two month old data is old considering the changes in that time) first hand evidence Zenimax said no to text chat to an extent... Not a very clear extent at that...

Developer Console Q n A - http://fextralife.com/eso-zenimax-answers-console-questions/

Console...check out ESO Live 4-24-15 around 1:22:00
Console...check out ESO Live 6-4-15 around 52:00

There's going to be a guy that will throw this evidence at you like it is gospel.. Wear some heavy armour for that one, seriously... Your head will thank you, the brick wall won't.

I posted the pros and cons in point form which I collated from what I've read from this thread. I believe it is a page or two back. Have a look and perhaps add to it and discuss them.. I won't copy and paste it myself as that may be deemed spamming.. I don't know anymore haha.

The answers aren't stale but rather you and many others are joining and starting new threads that were addressed way back that began in March - April

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

Chieve wrote: »

I just want some clarification on this thread...

So where did ZoS say no? I'm just curious...

(I do believe they will add it in if we do want, I've seen post by ZoS that, originally they didn't have in mind, but if the community wanted it, they would add it in...)

And I'm not sure if my memory is bad and if anyone said this but it never seemed to be answered I think, or at least not clear enough for me to understand, because I am trying to understand the none text chat side...

But why would you not want in in when it's implemented?

From what I read it seems like you want to force people to use voice chat or are afraid people are going to try talking and fighting...

Or it seems like you don't want another form of communication , mainly. Or maybe you prefer to play alone unless you absolutely have to communicate for a specific part of the game.

It is a MMO...so talking to other players is supposed to be a big aspect of this game.

I don't really understand why people are fighting so hard to not have it implemented when most players want it and would like to use it to socialize with other people. And for those who don't want to talk can just turn it off...I really don't understand can someone in the no group clarify this?

Welcome to the thread and whoa have you opened yourself up for some frustration by asking these questions in here haha but I'll try to help without being too bias ... (I'm on your side and I was just as outraged by such a defiance for text chat haha).

Now we have some pretty damn stale (two month old data is old considering the changes in that time) first hand evidence Zenimax said no to text chat to an extent... Not a very clear extent at that...

Developer Console Q n A - http://fextralife.com/eso-zenimax-answers-console-questions/

Console...check out ESO Live 4-24-15 around 1:22:00
Console...check out ESO Live 6-4-15 around 52:00

There's going to be a guy that will throw this evidence at you like it is gospel.. Wear some heavy armour for that one, seriously... Your head will thank you, the brick wall won't.

I posted the pros and cons in point form which I collated from what I've read from this thread. I believe it is a page or two back. Have a look and perhaps add to it and discuss them.. I won't copy and paste it myself as that may be deemed spamming.. I don't know anymore haha.

The answers aren't stale but rather you and many others are joining and starting new threads that were addressed way back that began in March - April

I messaged you privately a while back asking you not to quote or reply to me weeks ago. I handled that situation privately and maturely. Please don't make me have to make a fool of you publicly. Thank you.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

mistermutiny89 wrote: »

Chieve wrote: »

I just want some clarification on this thread...

So where did ZoS say no? I'm just curious...

(I do believe they will add it in if we do want, I've seen post by ZoS that, originally they didn't have in mind, but if the community wanted it, they would add it in...)

And I'm not sure if my memory is bad and if anyone said this but it never seemed to be answered I think, or at least not clear enough for me to understand, because I am trying to understand the none text chat side...

But why would you not want in in when it's implemented?

From what I read it seems like you want to force people to use voice chat or are afraid people are going to try talking and fighting...

Or it seems like you don't want another form of communication , mainly. Or maybe you prefer to play alone unless you absolutely have to communicate for a specific part of the game.

It is a MMO...so talking to other players is supposed to be a big aspect of this game.

I don't really understand why people are fighting so hard to not have it implemented when most players want it and would like to use it to socialize with other people. And for those who don't want to talk can just turn it off...I really don't understand can someone in the no group clarify this?

Welcome to the thread and whoa have you opened yourself up for some frustration by asking these questions in here haha but I'll try to help without being too bias ... (I'm on your side and I was just as outraged by such a defiance for text chat haha).

Now we have some pretty damn stale (two month old data is old considering the changes in that time) first hand evidence Zenimax said no to text chat to an extent... Not a very clear extent at that...

Developer Console Q n A - http://fextralife.com/eso-zenimax-answers-console-questions/

Console...check out ESO Live 4-24-15 around 1:22:00
Console...check out ESO Live 6-4-15 around 52:00

There's going to be a guy that will throw this evidence at you like it is gospel.. Wear some heavy armour for that one, seriously... Your head will thank you, the brick wall won't.

I posted the pros and cons in point form which I collated from what I've read from this thread. I believe it is a page or two back. Have a look and perhaps add to it and discuss them.. I won't copy and paste it myself as that may be deemed spamming.. I don't know anymore haha.

The answers aren't stale but rather you and many others are joining and starting new threads that were addressed way back that began in March - April

I messaged you privately a while back asking you not to quote or reply to me weeks ago. I handled that situation privately and maturely. Please don't make me have to make a fool of you publicly. Thank you.

please take a moment to review the forum rules...

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ON PC when I use a controller I have the options to type AND PLay because the keyboard is in my hand whereas on console, if I'm typing I cannot play.

Ok I just have to ask..How do you use the controller, if the keyboard is in your hand?
Doesnt the controller require 2 hands on it to play? If the keyboard is already in one hand, by my count you dont have enough hands left to continue playing while you type?

Scroll up. It was answered there...
....
On PC you can actually play with the keyboard as it functions as a controller. Console does not offer this option and is not fully possible

Keyboard can probably function as many things, but this nothing to do with it. I know my English is not the best, so let me try again.
You claim you play on PC with a controller. Correct?
You also claim when on PC and while using a controller, you can type AND play at the same time (see above quote) because you also have a keyboard in hand. Correct?
Forget about consoles and their options for a moment, and talking strictly PC only- How do you use a controller to play while at the same time typing on a keyboard?

I play on a controller using Pinnacle Profiler and an Xbox 360/Xbox One controller that is wired to my PC.
My PC is an ASUS gaming republic laptop to being as USB cords aren't but so long I'm sitting at the keyboard.

Option1: (2013)
If I need to type the keyboard is there and the mouse is always there so while typing using the keyboard on PC I can continue playing. The next break I pick back up the controller.

The convenience here that's very important is that the keyboard on PC is actually a controller.
The controller peripherial is only an extension of the keyboard and mouse so the cursor and functions are enabled by Pinnacle Profiler to use the controller as a keyboard and mouse simultaneously.

It's a drastic difference from the actual controls on console but hopefully it answers your question.
The keyboard that I'm using to communicate with in the PC UI is setup in a way to allow a user to type and play simultaneously because the keyboard is the controller and the controller is the keyboard.

Option 2:(late 2014 to current)
I purchased a Xbox one keypad that works on PC's that now enables me to use the controller as a mouse and keyboard along with using the keypad as a controller and keyboard with controller use as the mouse.

I touch type (reasonably fast I like to think) due to my profession.

Honestly, it'd be quicker and more efficient for me to put my controller down, type a message and then pick my controller back up - compared to trying to type and move my character at the same time.

With the new (for Xbone....the far, far superior PS4 has had that option for some time ) controller keyboard plugins, you wouldn't need to put your controller down....use your thumbs to type.

Not my ideal option...but then I do prefer a full-size keyboard.

Still...it's becoming more and more apparent that the "using a keyboard impractical for consolers" argument is losing any validity it had.


unrelated - why on earth is there a emote?

I don't think you're reading and comprehending this as it's written.
In option 1 I'm literally placing the controller down and going mouse/keyboard as you'd die or allow group members to die as a healer (I'm a healer)

Option 2 the controller and keypad are being used together just like option 1 but without a mouse and keyboard.

Loosing validity?
-If the controller on console could do what a keyboard does on PC or if a Consoles allowed full keyboard play then I could see it loosing validity but the issue is the lack buttons

How so? Unless you can move and attack with a single hand, you still lose something by using a keyboard for text and movement.

With the controller-keyboard plugin, you have the same thing....although due to button placement and such, you can still block and use weapon attacks.

As mentioned, the controller-keyboard isn't my thing.....but for the younger generation who grew up with texting on phones etc, it could do the trick.

I'll be over in the corner putting my controller down, picking up my keyboard and typing, then reversing the process. And odds are pretty good you wouldn't notice much.

Have you played on PC?

You can move and attack with a mouse alone so one hand literally can heal and attack if you decided to while typing. Especially with Pinnacle on a controller

Good grief no....there's a reason I'm a consoler!

I have to say the thought of playing with one hand and trying to peck out a message with the other sends shivers up my spine.


In saying that, I'd never be typing mid combat...that doesn't even remotely sound like a good idea.

Using DCUO as an example, we'd use text for most everything. Any relevant combat mechanics would be outlined before the fight....definitely not during. And if you have to pick up a keyboard to ask for more power, healing or to call the tank a noob....well, there are other issues at play really.


Voice chat definitely has it's place....as does text chat.

Lol. Your response made me chuckle. God no...

I agree text chat has its place for sure so in the topic a couple of participants began thinking around a text chat box or menu within the social or any quick access menu.

I personally wouldn't want to type out mechanics nor do I want to wait for someone else to and then read it.
We just talk while we play just like I did in DAoC, Everquest, WoW, Linegae 2, LoTRO, Warhammer, etc.

When faced with a choice voice is much faster. I think the irritating part is in towns when ppl are just standing around so in context having casual ways to type out of combat may be ideal for others. Just not me so I'm only opposed to having a text box on my screen or a box on my UI. If ZOS were to place it in the quick menu like how we hit menu or menu and Y (triangle on PS4) and scroll to the recent interactions or stay on the main voice chat that's a menu that needs a lot of improvement anyway so building in a functional way to communicate there which could involve text and voice seems reasonable. We discussed and realized the controller is pretty full soto have a good functioning text chat window without sacrificing in-game controls seems like a good fit. Heck even make it optional to pop out for ppl who want it

I'd prefer it not be a zone text but use the same radius as voice but other than that I'm all for some people having the option so as long as it's not on the main UI

Just because you perfer one way doesnt mean everyone perfers that same way.

You must be extremely new to mmos because people commujicate boss and dungeon mechanics with text chat all the time....and guess what.... it only takes a few seconds to read it....

And believe it or not, sometime text chat is more effective during boss battles.... People who actually played mmos will know this.(this includes consoles mmos also)

Respectfully your comments aren't helping and often times come across as attacking vs discussing.
I think to you I've shared multiple pages of relevance to my gaming experiences where a larger experience comes from the genre of MMO types since he 1990's.

In competitive gaming people talk in the genre of MMO and do not type especially in games like this where guilds seek to be the first or fastest. Guilds in WoW like Tempora Heroica as an example were one of the top on the ER role playing realm I played on for years and voice chat was required. Even the casual guild I joined later required 40 and 25 man voice chat named the Illuminati and only in very old modem based game like DAoC where Spirits of Saint George did we rely on text chat but...it was 56k modems ages ago

Not to insult you but I suspect your experiences to MMO games have been for you a different perspective and goal from what's considered competitive gaming.

Text chat is NEVER more effective than voice for boss fights as it takes people's hands, fingers and eyes off being productive...takes longer to communicate and answer questions and also lacks the ability to adjust on the fly

But that's not what the topic is about. It's not me vs you.
It's your feature desires to ZOS....let's focus there

To say text chat is never better than voice chatbin boss fights is a clear indication that you are new to the genre. Most of the time voice is better, but there have been instances where text chat was better choice. Especially when you play withbdeaf or mute people ( one of our main dpses in my league in n DCUO was a mute and they could only use text chat)

Your point of veiw is severly flawed, selfish and narrowminded. And to be completely honest your veiws are not needed because it actually hinders the gaming b experiencenfor others.

My perspective as outlined is from competitive gaming guilds in this genre. Just because my experience isn't the same as yours doesn't conclude I'm lacking in years or experience. To the topic it specifies that challenges your dealing with due to an a sense of text chat are no longer obstacles for anyone who has similar experiences to me in competitive gaming in the genre of an MMO. Your examples are also very recent or new games in the genre so it seems that the name calling and aggressive comments to me are for whatever reason how you communicate via text.

You're the exact example of why people like me do not want this form of communication in the game.
That and the logistic of consoles don't have a way to block text in game without completely blocking the user while voice only blocking is supported. We've discussed challenges of having a text box outside of a menu and you've yet to offer ideas on how to
Manage and use a box outside of a menu so please contribute to the topic that your so passionate about vs storing up users.
What you're doing is considered baiting and trolling which can get you suspended from the forums.

Again you continue with insults vs addressing the topic what logical ideas do you have that have not been addressed by ZOS on this topic?

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Developers do not talk in absolutes.
They change plans with the tide of their player's demands.
ZOS did not say there would absolutely never be a textchat option for consoles.
They said it will "most likely" not be in the form of a textbox.

That IS NOT a "no".

If your Mother says; "We will most likely never have pizza for dinner again." that DOES NOT mean you will never have pizza for dinner...it means "just keep nagging her until she gives in and orders pizza"! *evil grin*

As I said...the only people that want people to stop asking for textchat are the ones that for some reason seem to feel it would somehow physically hurt them.

Keep asking for what you want.
When you quit asking...that is the only time that "no" is the final answer.

Just ask the US Government...they have changed LAWS due to citizens "demand"...in other words, people kept asking for changes and they eventually HAD to listen.

Maybe the "pro-texters" should hire lobbyists! (lol)

Caspur wrote: »

No. Because I don't want my beautiful screen clogged up with a chat box that will be spammed by gold sellers and constant nonsense. Keep the typing where it belongs, on the PC.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

bareheiny wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Vulsahdaal wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

ON PC when I use a controller I have the options to type AND PLay because the keyboard is in my hand whereas on console, if I'm typing I cannot play.

Ok I just have to ask..How do you use the controller, if the keyboard is in your hand?
Doesnt the controller require 2 hands on it to play? If the keyboard is already in one hand, by my count you dont have enough hands left to continue playing while you type?

Scroll up. It was answered there...
....
On PC you can actually play with the keyboard as it functions as a controller. Console does not offer this option and is not fully possible

Keyboard can probably function as many things, but this nothing to do with it. I know my English is not the best, so let me try again.
You claim you play on PC with a controller. Correct?
You also claim when on PC and while using a controller, you can type AND play at the same time (see above quote) because you also have a keyboard in hand. Correct?
Forget about consoles and their options for a moment, and talking strictly PC only- How do you use a controller to play while at the same time typing on a keyboard?

I play on a controller using Pinnacle Profiler and an Xbox 360/Xbox One controller that is wired to my PC.
My PC is an ASUS gaming republic laptop to being as USB cords aren't but so long I'm sitting at the keyboard.

Option1: (2013)
If I need to type the keyboard is there and the mouse is always there so while typing using the keyboard on PC I can continue playing. The next break I pick back up the controller.

The convenience here that's very important is that the keyboard on PC is actually a controller.
The controller peripherial is only an extension of the keyboard and mouse so the cursor and functions are enabled by Pinnacle Profiler to use the controller as a keyboard and mouse simultaneously.

It's a drastic difference from the actual controls on console but hopefully it answers your question.
The keyboard that I'm using to communicate with in the PC UI is setup in a way to allow a user to type and play simultaneously because the keyboard is the controller and the controller is the keyboard.

Option 2:(late 2014 to current)
I purchased a Xbox one keypad that works on PC's that now enables me to use the controller as a mouse and keyboard along with using the keypad as a controller and keyboard with controller use as the mouse.

I touch type (reasonably fast I like to think) due to my profession.

Honestly, it'd be quicker and more efficient for me to put my controller down, type a message and then pick my controller back up - compared to trying to type and move my character at the same time.

With the new (for Xbone....the far, far superior PS4 has had that option for some time ) controller keyboard plugins, you wouldn't need to put your controller down....use your thumbs to type.

Not my ideal option...but then I do prefer a full-size keyboard.

Still...it's becoming more and more apparent that the "using a keyboard impractical for consolers" argument is losing any validity it had.


unrelated - why on earth is there a emote?

I don't think you're reading and comprehending this as it's written.
In option 1 I'm literally placing the controller down and going mouse/keyboard as you'd die or allow group members to die as a healer (I'm a healer)

Option 2 the controller and keypad are being used together just like option 1 but without a mouse and keyboard.

Loosing validity?
-If the controller on console could do what a keyboard does on PC or if a Consoles allowed full keyboard play then I could see it loosing validity but the issue is the lack buttons

How so? Unless you can move and attack with a single hand, you still lose something by using a keyboard for text and movement.

With the controller-keyboard plugin, you have the same thing....although due to button placement and such, you can still block and use weapon attacks.

As mentioned, the controller-keyboard isn't my thing.....but for the younger generation who grew up with texting on phones etc, it could do the trick.

I'll be over in the corner putting my controller down, picking up my keyboard and typing, then reversing the process. And odds are pretty good you wouldn't notice much.

Have you played on PC?

You can move and attack with a mouse alone so one hand literally can heal and attack if you decided to while typing. Especially with Pinnacle on a controller

Good grief no....there's a reason I'm a consoler!

I have to say the thought of playing with one hand and trying to peck out a message with the other sends shivers up my spine.


In saying that, I'd never be typing mid combat...that doesn't even remotely sound like a good idea.

Using DCUO as an example, we'd use text for most everything. Any relevant combat mechanics would be outlined before the fight....definitely not during. And if you have to pick up a keyboard to ask for more power, healing or to call the tank a noob....well, there are other issues at play really.


Voice chat definitely has it's place....as does text chat.

Lol. Your response made me chuckle. God no...

I agree text chat has its place for sure so in the topic a couple of participants began thinking around a text chat box or menu within the social or any quick access menu.

I personally wouldn't want to type out mechanics nor do I want to wait for someone else to and then read it.
We just talk while we play just like I did in DAoC, Everquest, WoW, Linegae 2, LoTRO, Warhammer, etc.

When faced with a choice voice is much faster. I think the irritating part is in towns when ppl are just standing around so in context having casual ways to type out of combat may be ideal for others. Just not me so I'm only opposed to having a text box on my screen or a box on my UI. If ZOS were to place it in the quick menu like how we hit menu or menu and Y (triangle on PS4) and scroll to the recent interactions or stay on the main voice chat that's a menu that needs a lot of improvement anyway so building in a functional way to communicate there which could involve text and voice seems reasonable. We discussed and realized the controller is pretty full soto have a good functioning text chat window without sacrificing in-game controls seems like a good fit. Heck even make it optional to pop out for ppl who want it

I'd prefer it not be a zone text but use the same radius as voice but other than that I'm all for some people having the option so as long as it's not on the main UI

Just because you perfer one way doesnt mean everyone perfers that same way.

You must be extremely new to mmos because people commujicate boss and dungeon mechanics with text chat all the time....and guess what.... it only takes a few seconds to read it....

And believe it or not, sometime text chat is more effective during boss battles.... People who actually played mmos will know this.(this includes consoles mmos also)

Respectfully your comments aren't helping and often times come across as attacking vs discussing.
I think to you I've shared multiple pages of relevance to my gaming experiences where a larger experience comes from the genre of MMO types since he 1990's.

In competitive gaming people talk in the genre of MMO and do not type especially in games like this where guilds seek to be the first or fastest. Guilds in WoW like Tempora Heroica as an example were one of the top on the ER role playing realm I played on for years and voice chat was required. Even the casual guild I joined later required 40 and 25 man voice chat named the Illuminati and only in very old modem based game like DAoC where Spirits of Saint George did we rely on text chat but...it was 56k modems ages ago

Not to insult you but I suspect your experiences to MMO games have been for you a different perspective and goal from what's considered competitive gaming.

Text chat is NEVER more effective than voice for boss fights as it takes people's hands, fingers and eyes off being productive...takes longer to communicate and answer questions and also lacks the ability to adjust on the fly

But that's not what the topic is about. It's not me vs you.
It's your feature desires to ZOS....let's focus there

To say text chat is never better than voice chatbin boss fights is a clear indication that you are new to the genre. Most of the time voice is better, but there have been instances where text chat was better choice. Especially when you play withbdeaf or mute people ( one of our main dpses in my league in n DCUO was a mute and they could only use text chat)

Your point of veiw is severly flawed, selfish and narrowminded. And to be completely honest your veiws are not needed because it actually hinders the gaming b experiencenfor others.

My perspective as outlined is from competitive gaming guilds in this genre. Just because my experience isn't the same as yours doesn't conclude I'm lacking in years or experience. To the topic it specifies that challenges your dealing with due to an a sense of text chat are no longer obstacles for anyone who has similar experiences to me in competitive gaming in the genre of an MMO. Your examples are also very recent or new games in the genre so it seems that the name calling and aggressive comments to me are for whatever reason how you communicate via text.

You're the exact example of why people like me do not want this form of communication in the game.
That and the logistic of consoles don't have a way to block text in game without completely blocking the user while voice only blocking is supported. We've discussed challenges of having a text box outside of a menu and you've yet to offer ideas on how to
Manage and use a box outside of a menu so please contribute to the topic that your so passionate about vs storing up users.
What you're doing is considered baiting and trolling which can get you suspended from the forums.

Again you continue with insults vs addressing the topic what logical ideas do you have that have not been addressed by ZOS on this topic?

I never onced insulted anyone, I have only exposed your logic as something that is weak and unbalanced. My experience with mmos starts with everquest, witch is about 20 years old, your weak attempts to defame dont work. I can pretty much gaurntee you were never in a competitive gaming circuit, especially when it comes to mmos, because competitive pvp and pvers in this genre use both voice and text chat. So your point is once again obliterated by facts.

Pc text chat brought over to consoles will be perfect, as myself and others have explained to you, so stop pretending that we did not have this discussion several times already, there is no solid reasoning to not have it, so you can stop trying squirm around and say "consoles cant support a feature such as that" because once again it has been thoroughly proven it can.

Accept these facts, it will make your life easier, i promise.

The facts are...your ideas of what would be perfect are in opposition of what the developer has decided and what the developer intends to provide. That response from ZOS and not me is NO.

If that's all your interested in, this topic of discussion for you is over.