Still nothing to do after a 6 month eso break

Mighty_oakk · August 2015

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

The only real hard data that is available is on ps4.

It shows that on ps4 2% of players have finished their starting factions 5 group dungeons.

Based off this I would say solo content is much more popular

Alucardo · August 2015

You could buy some new outfits

firstdecan · August 2015

Have you tried grinding champion points? Clearly this is the end game experience ZoS had in mind.....

Phinix1 · August 2015

firstdecan wrote: »

Have you tried grinding champion points? Clearly this is the end game experience ZoS had in mind.....

It ended the game for me, so mission accomplished I guess.

With all the un- capped grind to win and forced PVP, I haven't played or bought anything in 2 months.

Don't really see playing or buying stuff ever again unless they make some radical changes.

zornyan · August 2015

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

The only real hard data that is available is on ps4.

It shows that on ps4 2% of players have finished their starting factions 5 group dungeons.

Based off this I would say solo content is much more popular

That's down to the *** poor group finder that doesn't work, and no text chat in the most part.

It mostly takes 3-4 hours for me on ps4 eu to find a group. In the rare case that it does, none of the team is able to speak to each other and don't even bother entering the same dungeon!

I've been here since console release, group finder has given me 1 group in about 3 weeks worth of queuing that actually went to the dungeon and conpleted it.

Even with "dungeon guilds" the text chat is bloody dead as it's mostly kids screaming.

I've tried waiting outside the actual dungeon, but unfortunately people have such huge level differences it doesn't really work. Plus sitting in the same spot for 30+ minutes gets Boring.

It's not a lack of players considering at peak times pvp is completely full with huge ques. It's just in the 2 hours trying to find a group I could have knocked out 5 levels on one of my alts.

Lord Xanhorn · August 2015

Nice response. His argument was so bad it wasn't even worth responding to. But if one was given, yours was pretty good.

Mighty_oakk · August 2015

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Nice response. His argument was so bad it wasn't even worth responding to. But if one was given, yours was pretty good.

Yup just ignore facts when they don't align with your ideas o.O

k2blader · August 2015

JMO time is way better spent reading a good book than doing some computer game's quests..

Lord Xanhorn · August 2015

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Nice response. His argument was so bad it wasn't even worth responding to. But if one was given, yours was pretty good.

Yup just ignore facts when they don't align with your ideas o.O

Nope. Everyone knows why those facts exist and especially a 4 star commenter on the forums. If by some reason you knocked your head and forgot all things ESO, read @zornyan answer and you'll be enlightened.

Mitchblue · August 2015

Phinix1 wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/imperialcity

Ironically this is why I am taking an extended break. I refuse to support forced PVP in any form.

If you have it on PC try nodding Skyrim. There is always new content there.

We have forced PVE. If you don't want to play don't play. None of us will mind..

Sausage · August 2015

My suggestion: Housing, every char you max level and Silver and Gold you complete, you get house upgrade. No more whining about theres nothing to do. How long it takes to make 4 VR14 chars? 800 hour?

DaveMoeDee · August 2015

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

Don't really need hard data when you apply a very small amount of deductive reasoning. I'll walk you through it.

1. One of the largest complaints about this game is the VR leveling grind. This is FACT and if you disagree then you can't be reasoned with and there's no point of further discussion.
2. VR leveling grind is overwhelmingly solo questing content through silver and gold
3. Therefore, people want something different when they are finished with 1-50 questing
4. Something different is not more solo questing content

That's how I arrive at my conclusions.

You can't generalize complaints on a forum to the larger player base. Just because certain people are loud doesn't mean that they are the majority.

I would expect that people focused on PvP would possess the logic you laid out. PvP players are also the most frequent posters here as they are the ones who complain about balance.

miked83b14_ESO · August 2015

tunepunk wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

As I said. I do group and PvP but sometimes I just feel like roaming around and explore, gather some XP, and when i don't feel like doing hard group content there's not much to do...

Now I'm left with 2 options. Get a group or find a farming spot. Could be made a bit more enjoyable with some more random quests that's all. And I do group with random people i meet around the world also.

I hear ya. They should add like 10 or 20 repeatable daily quests after you finish Cadwell's Gold. These dailies could be picked up in a factions main town and the quests would send you to do missions in old zones. Maybe after you turn in these quests, on top of gold and experience, you could gain some special new currency to save up for an exotic mount. Like it would take 30 days of daily quests to get enough to buy it. Something to log on everyday and work towards. Carrot on a stick type stuff.

zornyan · August 2015

There's already a huge variety of mounts, theres also enough quests (with the xp buffs coming) to get VR16 out of cadwells silver and gold.

So you want quests, that won't benefit xp, and give small amounts of gold (because there's Dozens of ways to get *** tons of gold already) just to get you to run point a to point b?

There's far more important things for zos to focus on.

Junkogen · August 2015

tunepunk wrote: »

Just back from a 6 month eso break, and a bit dissapointed that there's still not any new to do. I stopped shortly after completing Cadwell's Gold (just before Tamriel unlimited launch), since there was nothing to do except hunting some achievments, group content or PvP. I do enjoy doing group stuff and PvP once in a while, but many times, i just wanna log on for an hour or two to do some quests, work on XP, crafting and other stuff.

For me it's a mystery that they have spent so much time creating a huge world just for people "passing trough". As you go from level 1 to V12 never to see those areas again.

So here's some suggestions.

* Please Add more randomly generated quests around the world. Maybe just simple quests like bounty hunter stuff in cyrodiil.
* And after completing Cadwell's gold. Scale the whole world to match VR level. There's no point in going back to starting areas as enemies are too easy.

Some simple randomly generated quests could be like.
1. Go kill that one,
2. Go find that item
3. Protect that resource from waves of enemies.
4. Collect X number of Y.
5. Scout that area, kill all X in the area.

Something simple as that to keep you going while collecting stuff, XP & champion points, would be much more fun that just picking a spot farming for an hour or two.

They could have made it last infinitely longer by adding randomly generated solo/group quests throughout the world you wasted a couple of months passing through grinding your way to VR levels, never to look back again.

1. Go solo or in group to a NPC in a certain area you already visited.
2. Randomly generated mumbo jumbo, go to random place, do random this, that, this, that...
3. Complete the quest alone or with friends.
4. Profit.

That's the kind of content I'm looking for. Not same boring dailies and group grinds over and over and over until they come up with a new DLC.

Very insightful. I don't understand why the devs haven't pursued something like what you're suggesting. If you don't get a /lurk for this thread, there's something wrong with the developers. All that territory wasting away as they scramble to build completely new zones. You're right. If they were smart they would add to what they have, be more efficient.

RDMyers65b14_ESO · August 2015

Well... there is an old saying. "You only get as much out as you're willing to put in." If you're not willing to put in the time or effort into a game, then you're not going to get anything out of it. No one is here to 'entertain' or 'spoonfeed' enjoyment to anyone else. If you choose to close yourself to some of the content, you are going to have a limited experience. But that's your choice.

Can you imagine what would have happened if Abner Doubleday had looked at the ball and stick and said "I'm bored, there is nothing to do so I'll just quit."

Sometimes you have to make your own fun.

tunepunk · August 2015

Junkogen wrote: »

Very insightful. I don't understand why the devs haven't pursued something like what you're suggesting. If you don't get a /lurk for this thread, there's something wrong with the developers. All that territory wasting away as they scramble to build completely new zones. You're right. If they were smart they would add to what they have, be more efficient.

They already have something similar for the crafting and I cyrodiil. It's a shame and waste that you have a whole world not worth revisiting. No XP from kills, no useful drops, just a lot of pretty scenery but nothing to do there once you completed cadwell.

By then you're stuck in the last vr zone or craglorn or cyrodiil. I would love to revisit old places if there was something there to do.

Kuroinu · August 2015

So many selfish opinions in this thread, some players look at ZOS as this evil Overlord enslaving their fun. Many changes have happened within the company and has most likely slowed their process down which would be why Imperial City has been delayed this long.

Way too much whining these days and not enough understanding. While ZOS is more in touch with the community than most MMOs, I do believe they could offer more insight into how they're getting along with certain projects. However a part of the community is to blame for this lack of info. because some will take this "knowledge" twist and blow it out of proportion to where it's become something it's not and so developers are more inclined to shut up until it's ready.

With this being the case. It's the immaturity in the community that is to blame for the lack of info. because most can't be trusted to provide well constructed feedback based on a non-selfish perspective.

DisgracefulMind · August 2015

You post this right before an extremely huge major update. GG.

tunepunk · September 2015

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

You post this right before an extremely huge major update. GG.

Yep, so they know what they should be working on next.

I wouldn't even mind if they made it a DLC. I'd certainly buy smaller quest packs, or spend more skill points into something like the Fighters Guild passive 'Bounty hunter'.