Still nothing to do after a 6 month eso break

tunepunk

Just back from a 6 month eso break, and a bit dissapointed that there's still not any new to do. I stopped shortly after completing Cadwell's Gold (just before Tamriel unlimited launch), since there was nothing to do except hunting some achievments, group content or PvP. I do enjoy doing group stuff and PvP once in a while, but many times, i just wanna log on for an hour or two to do some quests, work on XP, crafting and other stuff.

For me it's a mystery that they have spent so much time creating a huge world just for people "passing trough". As you go from level 1 to V12 never to see those areas again.

So here's some suggestions.

* Please Add more randomly generated quests around the world. Maybe just simple quests like bounty hunter stuff in cyrodiil.
* And after completing Cadwell's gold. Scale the whole world to match VR level. There's no point in going back to starting areas as enemies are too easy.

Some simple randomly generated quests could be like.
1. Go kill that one,
2. Go find that item
3. Protect that resource from waves of enemies.
4. Collect X number of Y.
5. Scout that area, kill all X in the area.

Something simple as that to keep you going while collecting stuff, XP & champion points, would be much more fun that just picking a spot farming for an hour or two.

They could have made it last infinitely longer by adding randomly generated solo/group quests throughout the world you wasted a couple of months passing through grinding your way to VR levels, never to look back again.

1. Go solo or in group to a NPC in a certain area you already visited.
2. Randomly generated mumbo jumbo, go to random place, do random this, that, this, that...
3. Complete the quest alone or with friends.
4. Profit.

That's the kind of content I'm looking for. Not same boring dailies and group grinds over and over and over until they come up with a new DLC.

Troneon

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/imperialcity

tunepunk

Well that's probably done in a couple of weeks, then wait 6 months for next DLC?

Lord Xanhorn

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

JD2013

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

tunepunk

I'm not expecting more solo content. There's a ton of content already that they could make worth to revisit if you just wanna spend a little while getting some XP and collect stuff. Just add some randomly generated quests and scale the world after Cadwell and i would have plenty to do, when I'm waiting for my friends to get online, or when i don't feel like grouping or PvPing.

tunepunk

JD2013 wrote: »

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

As I said. I do group and PvP but sometimes I just feel like roaming around and explore, gather some XP, and when i don't feel like doing hard group content there's not much to do...

Now I'm left with 2 options. Get a group or find a farming spot. Could be made a bit more enjoyable with some more random quests that's all. And I do group with random people i meet around the world also.

JD2013

tunepunk wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

As I said. I do group and PvP but sometimes I just feel like roaming around and explore, gather some XP, and when i don't feel like doing hard group content there's not much to do...

Now I'm left with 2 options. Get a group or find a farming spot. Could be made a bit more enjoyable with some more random quests that's all. And I do group with random people i meet around the world also.

Well if it's of any great shakes to you, Orsinuim should be here by Christmas.

Flaminir

JD2013 wrote: »

tunepunk wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

As I said. I do group and PvP but sometimes I just feel like roaming around and explore, gather some XP, and when i don't feel like doing hard group content there's not much to do...

Now I'm left with 2 options. Get a group or find a farming spot. Could be made a bit more enjoyable with some more random quests that's all. And I do group with random people i meet around the world also.

Well if it's of any great shakes to you, Orsinuim should be here by Christmas.

And then they are claiming DLC every quarter...

Orsinium is a solo zone, so perfect for you... after that the next two are dark brotherhood & thieves guild.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some repeatable solo dailies for these based around theft & assassination.

Isarii

Since no one else has said it - ESO basically put PC content development on hold to get the console launch out the door. While none of us were thrilled about it, it was probably the right business decision. The patch schedule should be picking up now that they're done.

tunepunk

Flaminir wrote: »

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some repeatable solo dailies for these based around theft & assassination.

That's basically what I'm looking for, when i don't have any thing better to do, or when people I usually group with is not online. A bit of a shame they make waste of a whole world After Cadwell's gold though. Lot's of nice areas i would like to revisit, but there's not much point unless they scale all areas to VR after cadwell's gold completion.

Rikal

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

tunepunk

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

Soloable content shouldn't mean you have to do it alone though. Many times i find my self hooking up with a friend or random people doing things together, even though sometimes it's a pushover to team up in "solo area". More instances and scaling based on group size would be awesome though, to match the group size.

Lord Xanhorn

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

Don't really need hard data when you apply a very small amount of deductive reasoning. I'll walk you through it.

1. One of the largest complaints about this game is the VR leveling grind. This is FACT and if you disagree then you can't be reasoned with and there's no point of further discussion.
2. VR leveling grind is overwhelmingly solo questing content through silver and gold
3. Therefore, people want something different when they are finished with 1-50 questing
4. Something different is not more solo questing content

That's how I arrive at my conclusions.

Mighty_oakk

Have you checked out all the PvE content in cyrodiil? There's 5 quest hubs (repeatable dailies), either 8 or 10 dolmens and a ton of delves. It's actually a pretty amazing zone.

tunepunk

Mighty_oakk wrote: »

Have you checked out all the PvE content in cyrodiil? There's 5 quest hubs (repeatable dailies), either 8 or 10 dolmens and a ton of delves. It's actually a pretty amazing zone.

Yep I go there all the time. Kind of like it there though. Only things bothering me is the vast distances, takes ages to get around... especially if you die and have to go there again without any keeps nearby. >_< Still have some stuff left to do in Cyrodiil, but don't dare venture too far in enemy territory sometimes.. haha

Prof_Bawbag

I've no idea why people can't see the OP entire argument and instead just focusing on a small part of it. There's even someone further up dismissing the OP and stating the game is badly in need of more PvP. That's his point, there has been no new content. Nothing. The game badly needs new content all round, both PvP and PvE. I mean, look at it this way, the likes of the Witcher, Skyrim etc can get away without much content dlc because they're games that have an end. The devs don't need to worry about keeping them current, the content fresh and so on. Eso being an MMO, though, needs a constant flow of cash and if you've been playing the game for months, then you've seen everything the game has had since launch. It's currently no different to a non MMO in this respect.

Then there's the console market. Most people will have moved on from The Witcher 3, so I expect most people will move on from this sooner rather than later because we still have the same content as does the Witcher.

tunepunk

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I've no idea why people can't see the OP entire argument and instead just focusing on a small part of it. There's even someone further up dismissing the OP and stating the game is badly in need of more PvP. That's his point, there has been no new content. Nothing. The game badly needs new content all round, both PvP and PvE. I mean, look at it this way, the likes of the Witcher, Skyrim etc can get away without much content dlc because they're games that have an end. The devs don't need to worry about keeping them current, the content fresh and so on. Eso being an MMO, though, needs a constant flow of cash and if you've been playing the game for months, then you've seen everything the game has had since launch. It's currently no different to a non MMO in this respect.

Then there's the console market. Most people will have moved on from The Witcher 3, so I expect most people will move on from this sooner rather than later because we still have the same content as does the Witcher.

I totally agree with you there. But one thing that bothers me is the waste of content. From level one to V12 you're just "passing through". Maybe you spend at most an hour or a couple in a particular area then you finished all the stuff there and move on, never to visit again. For me it's a mystery that they have spent so much time creating a huge world just for people "passing trough". As you completed Cadwell's Gold there's a whole useless world not even worth a revisit for a picnic and working on fishing skills.

Add some smaller PvP instances areas in evey major city (protect from attacking factions), add random solo quests in every major city. Add PvP instances to delves and dungeons. Add small solo & group content to previously visited areas.

If they are smart they use what they have. They don't need to create tons of new content. The content is already there. Re-Use it and make something fun.

kogadrake

tunepunk wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

As I said. I do group and PvP but sometimes I just feel like roaming around and explore, gather some XP, and when i don't feel like doing hard group content there's not much to do...

Now I'm left with 2 options. Get a group or find a farming spot. Could be made a bit more enjoyable with some more random quests that's all. And I do group with random people i meet around the world also.

so I read this as you skip all group options till you ran out of all solo content and now are mad you dont have solo content...

The fix was to start doing group content from day one to make the solo stuff last long past VR14 when you dont have a group, or dont want to PvP, or dont want to just gather/grind

Lord Xanhorn

I think the subject of the thread doesnt reflect his point. The subject sounds like he's saying he wants more solo content but his point I think is that he wants better more effective solo content.

Masuimi

I don't know why people keep suggesting scale all zones to VR levels or your character level...

Do you not understand that this simply does not work? It's not possible. It would mess so much *** up. Get over it.

Phinix1

Troneon wrote: »

http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/imperialcity

Ironically this is why I am taking an extended break. I refuse to support forced PVP in any form.

If you have it on PC try nodding Skyrim. There is always new content there.

tunepunk

kogadrake wrote: »

tunepunk wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

If you don't want to join a group, an mmo may not be the best choice of game for you.

As I said. I do group and PvP but sometimes I just feel like roaming around and explore, gather some XP, and when i don't feel like doing hard group content there's not much to do...

Now I'm left with 2 options. Get a group or find a farming spot. Could be made a bit more enjoyable with some more random quests that's all. And I do group with random people i meet around the world also.

so I read this as you skip all group options till you ran out of all solo content and now are mad you dont have solo content...

The fix was to start doing group content from day one to make the solo stuff last long past VR14 when you dont have a group, or dont want to PvP, or dont want to just gather/grind

Not really, Well they could have made it last infinitely longer by adding randomly generated solo/group/PvP quests throughout the world you wasted a couple of months passing through grinding your way to VR levels, never to look back again.

1. Go solo or in group to a NPC in a certain area you already visited.
2. Randomly generated mumbo jumbo, go to random place, do random this, that, this, that...
3. Complete the quest alone or with friends.
4. Profit.

That's the kind of content I'm looking for. Not same boring dailies and group grinds over and over and over until they come up with a new DLC.

tunepunk

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

I think the subject of the thread doesnt reflect his point. The subject sounds like he's saying he wants more solo content but his point I think is that he wants better more effective solo content.

Yeah, I had to update the original post a bit since some people didn't seem to understand what i was looking for.

Rikal

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

Don't really need hard data when you apply a very small amount of deductive reasoning. I'll walk you through it.

1. One of the largest complaints about this game is the VR leveling grind. This is FACT and if you disagree then you can't be reasoned with and there's no point of further discussion.
2. VR leveling grind is overwhelmingly solo questing content through silver and gold
3. Therefore, people want something different when they are finished with 1-50 questing
4. Something different is not more solo questing content

That's how I arrive at my conclusions.

Yes, ZOS needs hard data. Maybe you do represent a large number of people, or a even a majority. Maybe there are more people who think differently than you realize. Hard data is the way to find out. You believe in your conclusion very strongly, but you may be overestimating how many people share it, or discounting others who think differently. Hard data is the way to find out. There really is no substitute.

Merlin13KAGL

New content in what, three days?

Rikal

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

New content in what, three days?

Ya, the debate is about what kind(s) of content they should prioritize. This upcoming release, the vast majority of it I would call PvP. Which is another debate, because some will tell you that it's somehow PvE. You might agree with them, but the 1st time you go to do it and get stabbed in the back by another player, you might change your mind.

It remains to be seen what the access rules are for the Imperial City at release (and going forward), but if you're not a hardcore PvPer, the frequency you may be getting ganked takes some getting used to. ZOS really has a catch 22 here. Restrict access to the new content and some people will complain that they paid for content they can't access. Unlimited access and some people will complain it's nothing but a gank fest. It's going to be mighty interesting to see.

cjthibs

Do you find yourself going to fridge and saying this a lot? "Nothing to eat..."

-or-

Do you find yourself looking in your closet and saying, "Wish I had something to wear...?"

Kobaal

tunepunk wrote: »

Just back from a 6 month eso break, and a bit dissapointed that there's still not any new to do. I stopped shortly after completing Cadwell's Gold (just before Tamriel unlimited launch), since there was nothing to do except hunting some achievments, group content or PvP...

Has it been 6 months since Tamriel Unlimited launched?

Mighty_oakk

tunepunk wrote: »

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I've no idea why people can't see the OP entire argument and instead just focusing on a small part of it. There's even someone further up dismissing the OP and stating the game is badly in need of more PvP. That's his point, there has been no new content. Nothing. The game badly needs new content all round, both PvP and PvE. I mean, look at it this way, the likes of the Witcher, Skyrim etc can get away without much content dlc because they're games that have an end. The devs don't need to worry about keeping them current, the content fresh and so on. Eso being an MMO, though, needs a constant flow of cash and if you've been playing the game for months, then you've seen everything the game has had since launch. It's currently no different to a non MMO in this respect.

Then there's the console market. Most people will have moved on from The Witcher 3, so I expect most people will move on from this sooner rather than later because we still have the same content as does the Witcher.

I totally agree with you there. But one thing that bothers me is the waste of content. From level one to V12 you're just "passing through". Maybe you spend at most an hour or a couple in a particular area then you finished all the stuff there and move on, never to visit again. For me it's a mystery that they have spent so much time creating a huge world just for people "passing trough". As you completed Cadwell's Gold there's a whole useless world not even worth a revisit for a picnic and working on fishing skills.

Add some smaller PvP instances areas in evey major city (protect from attacking factions), add random solo quests in every major city. Add PvP instances to delves and dungeons. Add small solo & group content to previously visited areas.

If they are smart they use what they have. They don't need to create tons of new content. The content is already there. Re-Use it and make something fun.

Ugh then there is Craglorn. All they need todo is remove the stuff where you need 3 people to progress a quest.

Lord Xanhorn

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

rhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Not to be rude but the game is mostly solo content already. If you expect an MMO to have frequent updates of solo content then you really dont understand the nature of an MMO. This game is in desperate need of more group content and objectives. This is what we are getting and is what people want. If you want to stay in solo content, you should just reroll an alt.

Not to be rude, but do you have any data to back up how many people want solo content vs any other content? ESO should serve their actual customer base, and if a large part of the customer base wants more solo content they should provide more solo content. You really don't understand the nature of business, if you think ZOS should make decisions based on some vague notion of the nature of MMOs in general, as opposed to measuring the own customer base for their own specific game.

Don't really need hard data when you apply a very small amount of deductive reasoning. I'll walk you through it.

1. One of the largest complaints about this game is the VR leveling grind. This is FACT and if you disagree then you can't be reasoned with and there's no point of further discussion.
2. VR leveling grind is overwhelmingly solo questing content through silver and gold
3. Therefore, people want something different when they are finished with 1-50 questing
4. Something different is not more solo questing content

That's how I arrive at my conclusions.

Yes, ZOS needs hard data. Maybe you do represent a large number of people, or a even a majority. Maybe there are more people who think differently than you realize. Hard data is the way to find out. You believe in your conclusion very strongly, but you may be overestimating how many people share it, or discounting others who think differently. Hard data is the way to find out. There really is no substitute.

This is a cop out answer cause you can literally use that argument for any and every opinion on these forums thereby making every opinion worthless cause its not backed by hard data. We are trying to use a little rational thought and reasonable explanation and if you apply those, this game wants and needs more group content.