So if i understand correctly, there's no dedicated new solo PVE zone in the expansion?

Ridiculous that the only way to get basic craft mats to make basic gear is PvP or Raiding.

Forcing non-PvPers into a PvP zone gankfest is going to alienate solo/casuals and for what reason?

Love that PvPers got an update and finally got IC. The stones should be tied to PvP-focused rewards instead of being the primary method to get basic craft mats.

smh

oh just stop it, since release MORE THAN A YEAR AGO eso only received PVE updates, now the imperial city that was announced during BETA is the first and only PVP update planned for the game that we know about (besides justice system PVP part that probably was scrapped) and they already announced 5 new PVE only zones comming in the future, Orsinium, Murkmire, Abah's landing, clockwork city and Mephala's realm and they also hinted at the gold coast as a new zone to come sometime next year, just have some patience, PVE is next, and next and next ad infinitum

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chaseman245 wrote: »

Fangorn wrote: »

So if i understand correctly, there's no dedicated new solo PVE zone in the expansion?

No, there is no new PvE zone at the moment. The next newest zone will most likely be High Wrothgar (orc city) near Stormhaven.

High Hrothgar is the sacred nord mountain in Skyrim, Orsinium is the orsimer kingdom that lies in the Wrothgarian mountains between northeast of Stormhaven and east of Rivenspire.

I can't remember any new solo PVE zones since the game came out.

Why there are around 17 solo pve zone's then? I just asked if there is a new solo pve zone in the DLC...

They should've implemented a toggle for PvP/PvE so you could go in and fight the monsters and do quests without the super gankfest ambush masters out there.

But instead we have to wait for Orsinium.

Fangorn wrote: »

I can't remember any new solo PVE zones since the game came out.

Does the main quests not count as Solo?

But that's the game. Hating PvP and playing ESO is relegating yourself to only playing half of the game and then complaining that your content is only 50% enjoyable. It's like playing a Mario game as someone who hates jumping. "Play your way" means you can approach the content like you would like to approach it. It doesn't means that the content is going to be catered to your approach.This has always, from the beginning, been a game designed around both PvP and PvE, not two different games sharing one name, and as such it seems perfectly natural to me that they release content that ties the two together directly. Then again, I enjoy both dynamics... which is why I play a game that has both.

This PvE vs PvP thing has reached famous levels of entitled drama. So many players act like the entirety of the game should be catered to their own personal preferences in regard to what a massively multiplayer game should be. There are going to be concessions. Middle-grounds will be tread upon thoroughly. It's no one's personal playground, and believe it or not, ZOS actually have a vision for their game and what they want it to be that exists beyond what player demands are. They aren't providing a public service. Despite the many problems they have encountered through implementation (bugs, iffy balancing, questionable class/skill/set changes, etc) they have still maintained some kind of vision even if it has been perhaps (definitely) too ambitious for them to realize smoothly.

Sounds like you might just be playing the wrong game. This is a game that features PvP in a dedicated fashion. Neutering expansion content by sheltering pure PvE players would limit what they could potentially accomplish. Also, look at it this way: PvPers have to deal with PvE content in the IC. Should they also be telling ZOS that they "failed" them, or should they maybe just give the damn thing a go first and then provide feedback based on what they experience?

I don't think anyone is lo

Speely wrote: »

Neutering expansion content by sheltering pure PvE players would limit what they could potentially accomplish. Also, look at it this way: PvPers have to deal with PvE content in the IC. Should they also be telling ZOS that they "failed" them, or should they maybe just give the damn thing a go first and then provide feedback based on what they experience?

I'm sorry but being able to harvest basic crafting materials without having to PvP or do a raid is a pretty basic MMO feature.

It's been present in this game since launch..until now. Other than gankers looking for easy prey, I don't see how anyone benefits from this.

Dissatisfaction with this does not equal hate for PvPers or not wanting PvP to get new content.

Also, there's no "right way" to play an MMO. By their very nature, MMOs such as this one offer many different ways to play, whether that's PvP, Raiding, Solo questing, farming mats and selling them, or sitting in a pub telling each other stories (you know, the "RPG" part).

There hasn't been a single new solo PvE zone since this game launched. One can be disappointed in that and still be very happy that PvP finally got some sorely-needed attention!

There was absolutely no reason to wall off all the basic crafting mats behind mandatory PvP or Raiding. The new system could be every bit as awesome (in fact with some creative thinking, even better) without using it to gate access to the simplest materials.

Zerg aoe isn't the issue. At least my aoe did no damage.

Whatever. I'm really enjoying the new content, and I'm not exclusively a PvP peep.

Keep it coming, Zeni! Tahnks for yoru hard work!

Schattenfluegel wrote: »

Elektrakosh wrote: »

They should've implemented a toggle for PvP/PvE so you could go in and fight the monsters and do quests without the super gankfest ambush masters out there.

But instead we have to wait for Orsinium.

Why? All they had to do, is to implement the mats in the PvE-Zone too? This Xvikin-Motif has dropped in Sanctum in the Past (i think that was an error, too).

I know. But ZOS decided to make sure crafters who PvE have to wait or get ganked in PvP. I have never saw one motif anywhere in my playthrough so far and I have looked everywhere.

I've been collecting clothier mats but they have been increasingly rare out in the wild. Apart form leather, I get lots of that.

This is PvP DLC with PvE elements. It's OK.
Orsinium will be next PvE update.

Swarog wrote: »

This is PvP DLC with PvE elements. It's OK.
Orsinium will be next PvE update.

Its not about the content, itself. Its about the high-level-mats and motifs for the crafters...

@Elektrakosh : Have you watched in the new Vet-Dungeons, too?

painsworth01 wrote: »

C'mon! The issue is not that this is new content for PVP players! It's about time! The issue is that ZOS has raised levels and that includes crafting levels. The mats needed for that PVE crafting for the new levels are only available in this PVP dedicated zone, or so we are told. Sooooo...... the complaint is that PVE players who are not geared for pvp, esp. those who are primarily crafters, are simply being lured into the zone to be used as sacrificial lambs to give PVPers someone to gank.

I am not a big pvp fan myself, although I do still go into cyrodiil and pvp with friends and family. Finished the quests etc.... I have no issue with IC or getting killed numerous times because I really suck at pvp. I do however, think it was a bad idea putting all the new materials and gear strictly in a pvp area. People waiting for Orsinium and needing to get ready for that dlc are going to have a rough time upgrading their gear. I am sure there will be plenty of VR16 content associated with Orsinium, and forcing the pve community to do something they are really bad at is never a good thing. Leaves a bad taste in your mouth. I don't speak on my behalf, but for the rest of the community that feels this way. For those that say suck it up and get good, well thats not always the case. Some have a knack for pvp and can do it with their eyes closed. Others no matter how hard they try, just can't get good whatever the reason. Maybe not good hand-eye coordination or maybe suffer from a physical or mental disability. Whatever the case, each person is different. Too bad they decided to do it this way. I'm happy they gave the pvp'ers content and will join in myself. Just feel really bad for those that are going to get stomped and come out with nothing. They shoud never have implemented TV stone theft of other players. At least they could reap some reward even if they are not great at pvp. This dlc will be nothing but zerg and grief......