Todays Nerf, Your Feelings?

13igTyme · September 2015

Personofsecrets wrote: »

It's a dumb nerf and I predict that the developers will change something about it as more and more people come out of the woodwork against it.

They don't agree with players. They are too stubborn to undo a change.

ontheleftcoast · September 2015

I don't feel nerfed playing my Stamplar. He's face rolling pretty much everything he runs into. I solo'd the Northern Woods Dolmen without any problem despite multiple liches dropping. I then clear Big Orzu's camp solo, again, no problem. This is a VR5 zone for this toon and he's VR7 so he's a little better than the monsters but not much. And that's before I noticed my mundus stone was wiped (apparently that happened to some folks). So even with a slight handicap he was still taking names and kicking @$$. The real test will be what will tanking be like, he's a tank/DPS build so running some pledges is going to have to happen to see what's up with that.

Mojmir · September 2015

im with you guys on this, ive only been in cyrodiil for a few months, invested alot, and i thought i was making head way with my build. NOPE!! gonna have to reroll, i dont think khajit makes a very good magicka NB, at least not to compete.wasted alot of time building up alliance rank and skill line, good news i can get vigor,which is stamina based lol.

ADarklore · September 2015

13igTyme wrote: »

They don't agree with players. They are too stubborn to undo a change.

I agree, I've seen in other MMOs where the dev's ego takes precedent over admitting certain things were "not working as intended" and then fixing them.

Wycks · September 2015

Stamina sucks and everyone knew this well before it came out PERIOD.

13igTyme · September 2015

ADarklore wrote: »

It isn't JUST craft enchanting, all purchased enchantments have also been nerfed. It just irritates me that they nerf players and buff enemies... instead of doing one or the other. Like many others have noted, for some reason MMOs cannot LEARN from other MMO's mistakes... instead they repeat history over and over. This is an example of what ALL MMOs suffer from, the "pendulum effect". In order to make an IMPACT in the game, the devs over nerf or over buff something so that players will notice... but then a short time later will have to go through a serious of 'adjustments' to FIX their overzealous approach.

Instead, what they should do- having LEARNED from other MMO mistakes... is to make gradual changes. Also, they should learn that listening to a vocal minority is very bad for business- especially the MMO business- where new ones are popping up all the time. MMOs cannot afford to alienate players, yet, they seem to constantly make the same mistakes which in the end do nothing but alienate players.

So True. I Love MMO's but I feel like there's a certain "Window" Of golden play time. After launch when they fix things and make slight nerfs and buffs, maybe give new stuff, but before they destroy the game.

CtrlAltDlt · September 2015

The dodge roll nerf is ridiculous

Master_Kas · September 2015

SirAndy wrote: »

Kronuxx wrote: »

I must be missing something, what nerf was done today?

Stamina builds were nerfed back into the stone age.

Which means everyone has to dust off their pretty dresses and start waving a wooden stick again.
Just like during beta and early live.

Lol even tough my main is a stamina build, this post was funny.

Sounds very similar to what I've been preaching around in PTS forums and ingame.

-.-

Don't forget 1h shield on main bar, for damagemigation (not for blocking) and resto staff second. Damage shield + burst heal without cost increase / regen penalty? Yes please!

Inactive Account · September 2015

I'm a little messed up , tired and yes, a little ***'d off with the effects of today's patch.

My head is a little cloudy right now, but, Is there even a reason to equip one hand and shield any more?

I mean, really, It seems to be a penalty to use the shield now, but like I said , my head is swimming right now, maybe tomorrow I'll see the light.

Avonna · September 2015

why cant they just make dodge rolls a different resource? stamina is like said above, used for too many things.

instead of enjoying your gameplay , its more of a job just worrying about that dam green bar!

blocks-rolls-sprinting-skills- dam ZOS next you will force us to use stamina to mount our horses , or open a freaking door.

Mojmir · September 2015

seems like everything thats been complained about over the last couple of months was heard by our beloved "parents" ZOS and then perverted. instead of justice we got "just be quiet" which is interpreted into the nerfs. some protested against one shot kills and wanting fights to last longer, we got penalties that literally have people stopping in mid fight and waiting for resources to return.Builds people were mostly comfortable with and only needed tweaking have to reroll and start from the ground up,not cool. anybody else have buyers remorse from this lemon?

Arreyanne · September 2015

bob.ellisonb16_ESO wrote: »

Stamina sucks and everyone knew this well before it came out PERIOD.

At least it didnt suck as much as it did at release, like someone else time to pull the dresses out of the closet and dust off that destruction staff again

Junkogen · September 2015

Now you know what it is like to be an Argonian after soft caps were removed. We've never recovered.

"Let the hate flow through you. Good...good..."

NDwarf · September 2015

Ouch. We didn't get this patch on console yet but you PC guys make this DLC sound like Star Wars Galaxies NGE. Not good.

DXCortEX · September 2015

Avonna wrote: »

why cant they just make dodge rolls a different resource? stamina is like said above, used for too many things.

instead of enjoying your gameplay , its more of a job just worrying about that dam green bar!

blocks-rolls-sprinting-skills- dam ZOS next you will force us to use stamina to mount our horses , or open a freaking door.

"Here at ZOS we've heard your complaints. People evade attacks, and its annoying!
New patch from ZOS: Dodge rolls now drain health! 1st roll is 5%, 2nd is 25%, 3rd roll kills you! Fights will now be more combat oriented. "

MrGrimey · September 2015

A whole month of testing, a whole month of stamina having resource management issues and not a single bit of feedback was taken into account... Thanks for listening zenimax

Scyantific · September 2015

Yeah, I'm kinda pissed off that my spell damage went from 2400 with staff, to just barely hitting 2k with power surge.

WTF guys, that's not how you push new content on players. You make the new stuff more powerful, and leave the old stuff as is.

SirAndy · September 2015

MrGrimey wrote: »

A whole month of testing, a whole month of stamina having resource management issues and not a single bit of feedback was taken into account... Thanks for listening zenimax

@MrGrimey
Back during the super secret 24/7 Psijic Order beta testing we had 6 months worth of testing and feedback and then ZOS decided to ditch all that and go live and launch ESO with a build we had never seen on the PTS (then Private/Psijic Test Server).

This debacle brings back some pretty bad memories ...

Wing · September 2015

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btw I have switched back to dresses, sad days, even my NB that had access to vigor is back being magicka based. . .tank is magicka too lol!

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ColtPython · September 2015

I am having the hardest tiem right now sitcking with this...

ColtPython · September 2015

Bout to rage quit. Trying not to cus here. MIght have to leave my TS.

Zavus · September 2015

I can't imagine the people pugging dailies, most of the tanks were already bad prior to the patch.

BRogueNZ · September 2015

So whats the nerf? You dont regen stamina while blocking?

Or is it that they fixed the bugs/exploits you've been relying on for the last x months

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but considering magicka based dps have had this response to any gripes of late..

L2P

Wing · September 2015

BRogueNZ wrote: »

So whats the nerf? You dont regen stamina while blocking?

Or is it that they fixed the bugs/explits you've been relying on for the last x months

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but considering magicka based dps have had this..

L2P

L2Read

stamina regen while blocking.

Moonshadow66 · September 2015

Well, I didn't exactly have the opportunity to try the skills and nerfs long enough to have a real opinion on those.. It's not easy when half of the game time it stutters so much that my graphics card is punching me in the face for me making it feeling uncomfortable, and the other half I get stuck in loading screens.
Somehow I've seen this coming, every major update brings more bugs and performance impacts.

Cavedog · September 2015

Yup, Zenimax just made a stamina tank nearly worthless. In addition, the changes to the nirnhoned bonus means that crux is worth very little, and still very hard to get. The reinforced trait is more valuable for most players now than nirnhoned is. It doesn't make any sense. I'm not impressed at all.

Kalfis · September 2015

NDwarf wrote: »

Ouch. We didn't get this patch on console yet but you PC guys make this DLC sound like Star Wars Galaxies NGE. Not good.

PC received the beta verison, the consoles will get the ACTUAL version later.

Runumuk_ESO · September 2015

Whoever the genus is that had the bright idea for this bs nerf should be FIRED, put in a my little pony outfit, paraded around for all of us to throw banana surprise at until we all pass out from exhaustion. I've already cancelled my eso plus membership and can't even pull myself to log in. New content should be harder I agree BUT don't add new content and slap everyone silly with nerf bat. OMG..... Going to store for a 12 pack and bottle of aspirin,,,,,

BRogueNZ · September 2015

Wing wrote: »

BRogueNZ wrote: »

So whats the nerf? You dont regen stamina while blocking?

Or is it that they fixed the bugs/explits you've been relying on for the last x months

This isn't aimed at anyone in particular but considering magicka based dps have had this..

L2P

L2Read

stamina regen while blocking.

I have read it, that why I included it my post. You thought I made it up?

There is more to these tears than that and you know it.

Its its the forever dodge rolling, block casting, I stand here holding block = imatank's feeling this.

Others consider how to change their playstyle to suit, or perhaps they don't have to because you know.. they're were just not bad in the first place.

Tholian1 · September 2015

Kalfis wrote: »

NDwarf wrote: »

Ouch. We didn't get this patch on console yet but you PC guys make this DLC sound like Star Wars Galaxies NGE. Not good.

PC received the beta verison, the consoles will get the ACTUAL version later.

Unless our patch is already in the pipeline with Sony and Microsoft. Then I guess we will be getting the same thing as PC got today. Maybe?