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It's ridiculous for an MMORPG not to have this feature.
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✭✭✭✭✭Class changes are the one thing this game shouldn't start offering.-- @xaraan --
nightblade: Xaraan • templar: Xaraan-dar • dragon-knight: Xaraanosaurus • necromancer: Xaraan-qa • warden: Xaraanodon • sorcerer: Xaraan-ra
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✭✭✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »No one would be forcing you to use the feature. It would be there for people that do want it. If you're not forced to use it, then what's the problem?
Most people who want options use that same argument "it would not impact you since you wouldn't have to use it, so why take it away from me since I would like to have it". This argument is just wrong.
This is an MMO with a competitive aspect (even more so in PvP) and "options" such as class change would mean changing the entire game rules and mechanics. So it would impact *everybody* whether they use it or not, because they'd compete with people who have that option too.
Not ALL options are game-changers but most of them are, and this one definitely would be.
I fail to see how this is a game changer anymore than rerolling. If good players can level up as fast as people are saying they can, then the ones who are playing to be the best and take advantage of superior classes are already doing so. You guys talk about me being inconsistent, but you're doing the exact same things.
Seriously, you don't see the difference between :
1/ Reroll, spend the equivalent of AT LEAST 2 weeks full-time levelling this alt toon and its class skills
and
2/ Insta-change your class with gold, crowns or an instant game mechanic ?
Really ?
Extra question : if you don't see any difference, how come you insist on class change instead of rerolling ?
Extra note : Resorting to insults is the ultimate "weapon" of people who have no arguments left or no arguments at all.
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Ravici✭✭I have just one question... sod the issue of whether something should be put inro the game that doesn't really fit
What, on God's green Earth would be the reasoning behind a good tending/leaning person/char not having a dark/diseased side?
It makes perfect sense, and actually makes it far more interesting, for someone to have (and show) the good and bad in them.
There is a reason Jeckyl and Hyde is such a well known/reused char idea
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Scarr✭✭✭ArcheAge is probably what you want to play then. You make 1 character and you choose 3 skill sets for that character and you spread your skill points out anyway you like among them. If you don't like a skill set, you can change it or change all of them. I think there ares like 80 different class combinations possible?0 -
anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »No one would be forcing you to use the feature. It would be there for people that do want it. If you're not forced to use it, then what's the problem?
Most people who want options use that same argument "it would not impact you since you wouldn't have to use it, so why take it away from me since I would like to have it". This argument is just wrong.
This is an MMO with a competitive aspect (even more so in PvP) and "options" such as class change would mean changing the entire game rules and mechanics. So it would impact *everybody* whether they use it or not, because they'd compete with people who have that option too.
Not ALL options are game-changers but most of them are, and this one definitely would be.
I fail to see how this is a game changer anymore than rerolling. If good players can level up as fast as people are saying they can, then the ones who are playing to be the best and take advantage of superior classes are already doing so. You guys talk about me being inconsistent, but you're doing the exact same things.
Seriously, you don't see the difference between :
1/ Reroll, spend the equivalent of AT LEAST 2 weeks full-time levelling this alt toon and its class skills
and
2/ Insta-change your class with gold, crowns or an instant game mechanic ?
Really ?
Extra question : if you don't see any difference, how come you insist on class change instead of rerolling ?
Extra note : Resorting to insults is the ultimate "weapon" of people who have no arguments left or no arguments at all.
People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.Rinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance0 -
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✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.
You've come to the wrong genre of gaming my friend!
"I don't play this [snip] to work". If this is your mentality, you're gonna have a fun time collecting endgame gear!
If you truly don't want to reroll your character because level 1-40 is too much "work", you're gonna be in for a surprise when you hit veteran ranks. Then the real work starts
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_Brett on August 31, 2015 3:18AMP.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!1 -
chimneyswift_ESO✭✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »The ability to change classes. Seriously, I don't know why these ZOS guys keep avoiding this. Say what you want, but this is still technically an "Elder Scrolls" game. I wasn't expecting the classes to be so separated. I should've known better, but I didn't. I'd like to rectify that mistake. Of course you have the selfish players who are perfectly happy with their character who say you should've chose more carefully or make a new character. I'm one of those people who likes sticking with one character. I like my current character and I don't like the idea of starting her over or having two Vestiges. Not to mention how much this game has pissed me off over the past two weeks I've had it, what with the crashing, lagging, and spotty hit detection. I just don't like the idea of a Vampiric Templar. It goes completely against itself. It's so idiotic watching my Vampire character use these Aedric holy moves, "chosen one" or not. I want to change to Nightblade or Sorcerer as they're more fitting.
Show me one Elder Scrolls game where you can change your class... TES games are all about choices, if you choose wrong in the beginning then too bad, deal with itEbonheart Pact
GM of Secret Order of Sotha Sil
Stam DK - Chimneyswift
NB Healer - Hist-and-Honey
Templar - Milvela Volos
Sorc - Thè Flash
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chimneyswift_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »The ability to change classes. Seriously, I don't know why these ZOS guys keep avoiding this. Say what you want, but this is still technically an "Elder Scrolls" game. I wasn't expecting the classes to be so separated. I should've known better, but I didn't. I'd like to rectify that mistake. Of course you have the selfish players who are perfectly happy with their character who say you should've chose more carefully or make a new character. I'm one of those people who likes sticking with one character. I like my current character and I don't like the idea of starting her over or having two Vestiges. Not to mention how much this game has pissed me off over the past two weeks I've had it, what with the crashing, lagging, and spotty hit detection. I just don't like the idea of a Vampiric Templar. It goes completely against itself. It's so idiotic watching my Vampire character use these Aedric holy moves, "chosen one" or not. I want to change to Nightblade or Sorcerer as they're more fitting.
Show me one Elder Scrolls game where you can change your class... TES games are all about choices, if you choose wrong in the beginning then too bad, deal with it
Morriwind? Oblivion? Skyrim? Every Elder Scrolls game? You're not limited by class in any of them except this one. Since that limitation is apparently necessary, the option to switch should be available.
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chimneyswift_ESO✭✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »chimneyswift_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »The ability to change classes. Seriously, I don't know why these ZOS guys keep avoiding this. Say what you want, but this is still technically an "Elder Scrolls" game. I wasn't expecting the classes to be so separated. I should've known better, but I didn't. I'd like to rectify that mistake. Of course you have the selfish players who are perfectly happy with their character who say you should've chose more carefully or make a new character. I'm one of those people who likes sticking with one character. I like my current character and I don't like the idea of starting her over or having two Vestiges. Not to mention how much this game has pissed me off over the past two weeks I've had it, what with the crashing, lagging, and spotty hit detection. I just don't like the idea of a Vampiric Templar. It goes completely against itself. It's so idiotic watching my Vampire character use these Aedric holy moves, "chosen one" or not. I want to change to Nightblade or Sorcerer as they're more fitting.
Show me one Elder Scrolls game where you can change your class... TES games are all about choices, if you choose wrong in the beginning then too bad, deal with it
Morriwind? Oblivion? Skyrim? Every Elder Scrolls game? You're not limited by class in any of them except this one. Since that limitation is apparently necessary, the option to switch should be available.
Ok sorry, I mis-spoke. I was referring to race. Class I guess...or more playstyle. Even still in this game I dont think you should be able to switch classes much I like I dont feel like you should be able to switch races.
Ebonheart Pact
GM of Secret Order of Sotha Sil
Stam DK - Chimneyswift
NB Healer - Hist-and-Honey
Templar - Milvela Volos
Sorc - Thè Flash
For ESO builds & guides: http://www.ChimneySwift11.com
YouTube: youtube.com/ChimneySwift11
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strikeback1247 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.
You've come to the wrong genre of gaming my friend!
"I don't play this [snip] to work". If this is your mentality, you're gonna have a fun time collecting endgame gear!
If you truly don't want to reroll your character because level 1-40 is too much "work", you're gonna be in for a surprise when you hit veteran ranks. Then the real work starts
I don't plan on seeing the veteran ranks all the way through. A million XP per level AND they'll be going away within the next year most likely? *** that. If it ends up happening while I'm playing, so be it. But it most likely won't because it's not going to be my focus. Veteran Ranks are nothing but a cheap and artificial way to extend game hours.
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_Brett on August 31, 2015 3:20AMRinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance1 -
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✭I don't care about class changes. I think we should be able to use crowns to exchange gear. I spent months grinding to get the Valkyn Skoria set, but now that I have it I don't like it and would much prefer Engine Guardian. However, I refuse to do one more single dungeon. Ever. When I play an MMO, I only ever do one dungeon, and that's it. I don't really have a reason for it, that's just the way I play and the game should obviously revolve around that. I think it's ridiculous that there is no way for me to swap my Valkyn Skoria gear for Engine Guardian gear. I played the game! I did the dungeon! Why should I have to do a different dungeon to get different gear? This is just stupid. Most other MMOs out there have this option. They should give me this option because it would be more convenient for me.
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✭✭✭✭✭anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »No one would be forcing you to use the feature. It would be there for people that do want it. If you're not forced to use it, then what's the problem?
Most people who want options use that same argument "it would not impact you since you wouldn't have to use it, so why take it away from me since I would like to have it". This argument is just wrong.
This is an MMO with a competitive aspect (even more so in PvP) and "options" such as class change would mean changing the entire game rules and mechanics. So it would impact *everybody* whether they use it or not, because they'd compete with people who have that option too.
Not ALL options are game-changers but most of them are, and this one definitely would be.
I fail to see how this is a game changer anymore than rerolling. If good players can level up as fast as people are saying they can, then the ones who are playing to be the best and take advantage of superior classes are already doing so. You guys talk about me being inconsistent, but you're doing the exact same things.
Seriously, you don't see the difference between :
1/ Reroll, spend the equivalent of AT LEAST 2 weeks full-time levelling this alt toon and its class skills
and
2/ Insta-change your class with gold, crowns or an instant game mechanic ?
Really ?
Extra question : if you don't see any difference, how come you insist on class change instead of rerolling ?
Extra note : Resorting to insults is the ultimate "weapon" of people who have no arguments left or no arguments at all.
He's never had an argument at all, beyond the claim that as he wants it, he should have it. I'm afraid that's all too typical these days, and it's what lies behind the decline of the whole MMORPG genre as developer after developer has yielded to it. Hopefully not this one!0 -
RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »strikeback1247 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.
You've come to the wrong genre of gaming my friend!
"I don't play this [snip] to work". If this is your mentality, you're gonna have a fun time collecting endgame gear!
If you truly don't want to reroll your character because level 1-40 is too much "work", you're gonna be in for a surprise when you hit veteran ranks. Then the real work starts
I don't plan on seeing the veteran ranks all the way through. A million XP per level AND they'll be going away within the next year most likely? [snip] that. If it ends up happening while I'm playing, so be it. But it most likely won't because it's not going to be my focus. Veteran Ranks are nothing but a cheap and artificial way to extend game hours.
So you say you wont see Veteran Ranks all the way through? Even claiming they will go away by next year? What a prediction range you have. I'm very impressed....
Veteran ranks are essentially levels that take longer to get one to the other. You might as well have said the levels prior were also a cheap way to extend game hours too. That's ludicrous to say the least.
Also if you aren't in this game in the long run stop asking to change things that will affect this game long after you are gone.
Class Changing would turn the community more elitist than before. I know this because unlike most people in this thread who say most MMOs don't allow a class change, I have. It was one of the causes for one of the MMOs I played for its community to turn into a FOTM.
Allow class switching>tweaks to classes> people switch to the FOTM class> Repeat. It's a terrible, visious cycle because it broods elitists. Trust me when I say it's harder to change the community than to change the game itself for the developers. That's the risk. They GAME developers not crowd control. Those MMO communities are still toxic to this day if you aren't the FOTM class because they would kick people from groups if they weren't the FOTM class.
I get that class switching would give you more gameplay hours as a player, but don't be blinded by the risk. So please weigh the positives, and negatives of your views. However if you simply don't care you don't have the right to be on these forums demanding anything.
This is an MMO. Grinding is essential to the longevity to MMOs. This also means rerolling for a new character is a necessary evil. I am personally happy that this MMO isn't near as grindy as other MMOs. To me, ZOS seems to have taken better measures to make this MMO less groan inducing. It's not perfect, but it's better in comparison to some others.
Be glad that Champion points are account wide, but even that has its own problems.
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CapnPhoton✭✭✭✭✭I don't think this is a necessary option either. But this whole thing got me curious. Since I've never played one, can anyone lists some MMOs that do have this option?
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Thecapeo✭✭✭In FFXIV you can be all classes. You switch classes by changing your weapon. Works fine there. You still have to actually level the class though.0 -
ChibiMechaX78 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »strikeback1247 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.
You've come to the wrong genre of gaming my friend!
"I don't play this [snip] to work". If this is your mentality, you're gonna have a fun time collecting endgame gear!
If you truly don't want to reroll your character because level 1-40 is too much "work", you're gonna be in for a surprise when you hit veteran ranks. Then the real work starts
I don't plan on seeing the veteran ranks all the way through. A million XP per level AND they'll be going away within the next year most likely? [snip] that. If it ends up happening while I'm playing, so be it. But it most likely won't because it's not going to be my focus. Veteran Ranks are nothing but a cheap and artificial way to extend game hours.
So you say you wont see Veteran Ranks all the way through? Even claiming they will go away by next year? What a prediction range you have. I'm very impressed....
Veteran ranks are essentially levels that take longer to get one to the other. You might as well have said the levels prior were also a cheap way to extend game hours too. That's ludicrous to say the least.
Also if you aren't in this game in the long run stop asking to change things that will affect this game long after you are gone.
Class Changing would turn the community more elitist than before. I know this because unlike most people in this thread who say most MMOs don't allow a class change, I have. It was one of the causes for one of the MMOs I played for its community to turn into a FOTM.
Allow class switching>tweaks to classes> people switch to the FOTM class> Repeat. It's a terrible, visious cycle because it broods elitists. Trust me when I say it's harder to change the community than to change the game itself for the developers. That's the risk. They GAME developers not crowd control. Those MMO communities are still toxic to this day if you aren't the FOTM class because they would kick people from groups if they weren't the FOTM class.
I get that class switching would give you more gameplay hours as a player, but don't be blinded by the risk. So please weigh the positives, and negatives of your views. However if you simply don't care you don't have the right to be on these forums demanding anything.
This is an MMO. Grinding is essential to the longevity to MMOs. This also means rerolling for a new character is a necessary evil. I am personally happy that this MMO isn't near as grindy as other MMOs. To me, ZOS seems to have taken better measures to make this MMO less groan inducing. It's not perfect, but it's better in comparison to some others.
Be glad that Champion points are account wide, but even that has its own problems.
Most of that stuff happens already anyway. Not being a Vampire or Werewolf, being a Templar or Dragon Knight, using "weak" weapons such as Healing Staves. And have you listened to these people on the mic? They're all rude to each other for absolutely no reason. The toxicity has already reached 100%. So what, adding class switch would bump it up to 110%? I don't think so.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 27, 2024 1:26PMRinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance0 -
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✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »ChibiMechaX78 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »strikeback1247 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.
You've come to the wrong genre of gaming my friend!
"I don't play this [snip] to work". If this is your mentality, you're gonna have a fun time collecting endgame gear!
If you truly don't want to reroll your character because level 1-40 is too much "work", you're gonna be in for a surprise when you hit veteran ranks. Then the real work starts
I don't plan on seeing the veteran ranks all the way through. A million XP per level AND they'll be going away within the next year most likely? [snip] that. If it ends up happening while I'm playing, so be it. But it most likely won't because it's not going to be my focus. Veteran Ranks are nothing but a cheap and artificial way to extend game hours.
So you say you wont see Veteran Ranks all the way through? Even claiming they will go away by next year? What a prediction range you have. I'm very impressed....
Veteran ranks are essentially levels that take longer to get one to the other. You might as well have said the levels prior were also a cheap way to extend game hours too. That's ludicrous to say the least.
Also if you aren't in this game in the long run stop asking to change things that will affect this game long after you are gone.
Class Changing would turn the community more elitist than before. I know this because unlike most people in this thread who say most MMOs don't allow a class change, I have. It was one of the causes for one of the MMOs I played for its community to turn into a FOTM.
Allow class switching>tweaks to classes> people switch to the FOTM class> Repeat. It's a terrible, visious cycle because it broods elitists. Trust me when I say it's harder to change the community than to change the game itself for the developers. That's the risk. They GAME developers not crowd control. Those MMO communities are still toxic to this day if you aren't the FOTM class because they would kick people from groups if they weren't the FOTM class.
I get that class switching would give you more gameplay hours as a player, but don't be blinded by the risk. So please weigh the positives, and negatives of your views. However if you simply don't care you don't have the right to be on these forums demanding anything.
This is an MMO. Grinding is essential to the longevity to MMOs. This also means rerolling for a new character is a necessary evil. I am personally happy that this MMO isn't near as grindy as other MMOs. To me, ZOS seems to have taken better measures to make this MMO less groan inducing. It's not perfect, but it's better in comparison to some others.
Be glad that Champion points are account wide, but even that has its own problems.
Most of that stuff happens already anyway. Not being a Vampire or Werewolf, being a Templar or Dragon Knight, using "weak" weapons such as Healing Staves. And have you listened to these people on the mic? They're all rude to each other for absolutely no reason. The toxicity has already reached 100%. So what, adding class switch would bump it up to 110%? I don't think so.
If you think there is a "limit" to toxicity, you underestimate the power of people on the internet
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 27, 2024 1:28PMP.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!1 -
Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭Hmmmm, the worlds most popular MMO aka WoW, doesn't have that feature.
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RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »ChibiMechaX78 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »strikeback1247 wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »People were saying you could get to level 50 in one day. If they're getting rid of Veteran Ranks, then I'm not counting the time it takes to level those. Instantly changing classes is still faster and would be an alternative for those who don't want to redo their characters and do the same exact missions all over again. People call this being "lazy", but it's a damn video game. I don't play this *** to work. I'm not wasting my free time redoing *** that I've already done.
You've come to the wrong genre of gaming my friend!
"I don't play this [snip] to work". If this is your mentality, you're gonna have a fun time collecting endgame gear!
If you truly don't want to reroll your character because level 1-40 is too much "work", you're gonna be in for a surprise when you hit veteran ranks. Then the real work starts
I don't plan on seeing the veteran ranks all the way through. A million XP per level AND they'll be going away within the next year most likely? *** that. If it ends up happening while I'm playing, so be it. But it most likely won't because it's not going to be my focus. Veteran Ranks are nothing but a cheap and artificial way to extend game hours.
So you say you wont see Veteran Ranks all the way through? Even claiming they will go away by next year? What a prediction range you have. I'm very impressed....
Veteran ranks are essentially levels that take longer to get one to the other. You might as well have said the levels prior were also a cheap way to extend game hours too. That's ludicrous to say the least.
Also if you aren't in this game in the long run stop asking to change things that will affect this game long after you are gone.
Class Changing would turn the community more elitist than before. I know this because unlike most people in this thread who say most MMOs don't allow a class change, I have. It was one of the causes for one of the MMOs I played for its community to turn into a FOTM.
Allow class switching>tweaks to classes> people switch to the FOTM class> Repeat. It's a terrible, visious cycle because it broods elitists. Trust me when I say it's harder to change the community than to change the game itself for the developers. That's the risk. They GAME developers not crowd control. Those MMO communities are still toxic to this day if you aren't the FOTM class because they would kick people from groups if they weren't the FOTM class.
I get that class switching would give you more gameplay hours as a player, but don't be blinded by the risk. So please weigh the positives, and negatives of your views. However if you simply don't care you don't have the right to be on these forums demanding anything.
This is an MMO. Grinding is essential to the longevity to MMOs. This also means rerolling for a new character is a necessary evil. I am personally happy that this MMO isn't near as grindy as other MMOs. To me, ZOS seems to have taken better measures to make this MMO less groan inducing. It's not perfect, but it's better in comparison to some others.
Be glad that Champion points are account wide, but even that has its own problems.
Most of that stuff happens already anyway. Not being a Vampire or Werewolf, being a Templar or Dragon Knight, using "weak" weapons such as Healing Staves. And have you listened to these people on the mic? They're all rude to each other for absolutely no reason. The toxicity has already reached 100%. So what, adding class switch would bump it up to 110%? I don't think so.
Trust me, when a games becomes all about what the FOTM that rudeness reaches elitist levels. 100%? Lmao did you pull that percentage out of your bum? Just like a person who quoted you before me. There is no limit to the toxicity. Class switching would just add something else for elitist to make a big deal out of.
Have you seen those cartoons where they say "It can't get much worse"?
You clearly aren't seeing that rain cloud.
Let's leave it at that
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RevenOnasiSoul Shriveni dont know what MMO you have been playing but none that i have ever seen lets you change classes. I personaly hope that is one feature they never add to this game but thats just me.1 -
Zachy_B✭✭✭I disagree. Everyone would switch to flavor of the month and this game would get stupid.0 -
J2JMC✭✭✭✭✭Thought this would be a text chat/damage numbers thread. Am disappointed.
Still, if this didn't seem like it would be difficult to code, and therefore cause real problems that could affect gameplay stability, I wouldn't be against it. Some rich kid wants to change his class so he can copy some youtuber. How dare he want to have fun with the game by trying to see if another class suits him better. Boo Hoo.Edited by J2JMC on August 30, 2015 11:20PMKnee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD
Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP
"Apparently the players are more informed than we are"-Richard Lambert0 -
likelolwhat✭✭✭✭Thought this would be a text chat/damage numbers thread. Am disappointed.
Still, if this didn't seem like it would be difficult to code, and therefore cause real problems that could affect gameplay stability, I wouldn't be against it. Some rich kid wants to change his class so he can copy some youtuber. How dare he want to have fun with the game by trying to see if another class suits him better. Boo Hoo.
Reroll? All things can be solved with a reroll/alt. There's a reason there's 8 slots you know.Forever looking for that one avatar that no one else has...
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✭✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »The ability to change classes. Seriously, I don't know why these ZOS guys keep avoiding this. Say what you want, but this is still technically an "Elder Scrolls" game.
Please choose your argument.
Arguing that a "RPG" of any sort should allow someone to drastically dump their life path to chase FOTM isn't a very logical argument.
A much better one would be that an ES game, even an MMO version, should honor the hallmark of ES games - which is choice.
If there were NO classes, there would be NO problem.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
ThoraxtheDark✭✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »I refuse to go through all that [snip] again. It's taken me two weeks just to get to level 40. Or at least it feels like it's been two weeks. The reason to have it is because players want it. There's no reason not to have it.
[snip]? why are you playing this game if you think its [snip]? not everything in your life needs a "Easy Button" if you change your mind on a whim.
They give you the ability to create 8 different characters, have at 'er. If you don't like leveling a character don't play a game in which you level up a character. Or come on here make put these posts in general discussion, your problems shouldn't be up for discussion imo
[edited for profanity bypass & to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on October 27, 2024 1:30PM2 -
talon_vib14_ESO✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Stop trying to force these views on other people.
Oh sweet irony.
Anyway to answer your question another ps4 mmo that allows you to change class with the push of a button is Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn. It's less action based and more traditional mmo tab target combat. You do also need to level up the alternate classes so it's much like leveling alts but on a single character. I enjoy ESO and I enjoy Final Fantasy for different reasons. Both are worth while games. Final Fantasy is cross platform so the ps4 players are also playing with the PC players which is also pretty cool.
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