barrier stack if both caster got different morph

monkeymystic wrote: »

Vigor has to work on self only, and not be stackable like it is now.

If not, PVP in 1.7 will become a much larger joke then it is currently.

The 50% heal and dmg reduction will just make vigor AOE stacking MUCH MORE POWERFUL, because stacks of this heal for so much already. Hell, even 1 vigor heals for tons.

Meanwhile vigor will be powerful, heal on dmg abilities will become USELESS, and the balance will be even more screwed. Heals based on dmg done will be worthless in pvp, end of.

ZOS, please start to use your brains before you send your own game into the dirt in terms of PVP.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Got any answers if you play this game and realise how much vigor will ruin pvp when stacked, AoE'ed by every player in 1.7?

Think about it HEAL on DAMAGE
ie damage and tank at the same time.
Remove heal on damage and DPS builds actually have to invest in something defensive other than stacking damage.
With heal on damage + shield stacking...why waste anything in defence ?
Glass cannons ? ..more like diamond shielded cannons at present.

Vigor needs some serious balancing, because right now a stam dps can easily outheal a dedicated healer..
And that in it self isn't even the main concern. The main problem is that the HoT stacks, and for insane amounts that a 50% reduction won't change. Along with 50% dmg reduction, vigor stacking players will be impossible to kill.

I wonder what the devs are actually doing. They are giving us a pvp patch that is even more broken.

Vigor is definitely OP and once it's moved down lower will be even worse. Sometimes I don't think they know what they are doing.

Healing is being reduced by 50% ....

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Healing is being reduced by 50% ....

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

who cares about pvp? there were like 5 pvers who cried about having to pvp to get pvp abilities so ZoS rushed out and changed the game for them because 'it was to hard'.

Obviously zos only cares about PvE, thats the reason why pvp has been an unplayable mess since 1.2 and its only looking to get even worse.

Yeah, that's why ZOS nerfed blocking, dodging, Bolt Escape and a dozen other abilities my Sorc needs... because they LOVE PvE so much and never listen to PvP whiners...

Dude, just stop.

Tolmos wrote: »

So... if everyone stacked resto staves, would that also make PvP a joke?

well slotting a resto staff severly limits your offensive abilities while slotting vigor does not.

its would be comparable if a 50% dmg reduction would be added to skills on a bar with vigor slotted...

The only problem I see with vigor is that it stacks, if they stop that, it will still be useful, without being OP. The fact that it is an AOE heal and self heal so no problem though.

Would it not just be quicker for you guys to give us stamina users a short list of what skills we are actually allowed to use to survive or escape from your super duper skills?

You've got our regeneration, you've stopped us dodging or breaking free or blocking more than once or twice, you've got some of our key damage skills nerfed but obviously we shouldn't be allowed to heal either.

Would it make like easier if I just came into Cyrodiil without armour, weapons or skills and stood somewhere reading my map - wouldn't want you to have to work for a kill with your l33t magicka skills... maybe I could get a large neon sign from the crown store to advertise my position too?

/rant

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Would it not just be quicker for you guys to give us stamina users a short list of what skills we are actually allowed to use to survive or escape from your super duper skills?

You've got our regeneration, you've stopped us dodging or breaking free or blocking more than once or twice, you've got some of our key damage skills nerfed but obviously we shouldn't be allowed to heal either.

Would it make like easier if I just came into Cyrodiil without armour, weapons or skills and stood somewhere reading my map - wouldn't want you to have to work for a kill with your l33t magicka skills... maybe I could get a large neon sign from the crown store to advertise my position too?

/rant

Well i'd like more weapon choices as a magicka build, the only weapon that magicka users can do dmg with when light/heavy attacking viably is desto staves, were as stamina's get dual wield, 2 hander, S+B, and bow ^^

Also would be nice to be able to get that crit chance and dmg when stealth attacking, staves don't have it for.. 'reasons'

I can understand that although not sure what 'weapon' they could give you that hits with magicka instead of hitting - dual wands?

Equally stealth from magicka does not seem an unreasonable request if it could be done in keeping with the games mechanics and balance - although a honking great fireball coming at you from behind a rock is somewhat less stealthy than a knife from behind.

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Would it not just be quicker for you guys to give us stamina users a short list of what skills we are actually allowed to use to survive or escape from your super duper skills?

You've got our regeneration, you've stopped us dodging or breaking free or blocking more than once or twice, you've got some of our key damage skills nerfed but obviously we shouldn't be allowed to heal either.

Would it make like easier if I just came into Cyrodiil without armour, weapons or skills and stood somewhere reading my map - wouldn't want you to have to work for a kill with your l33t magicka skills... maybe I could get a large neon sign from the crown store to advertise my position too?

/rant

Well i'd like more weapon choices as a magicka build, the only weapon that magicka users can do dmg with when light/heavy attacking viably is desto staves, were as stamina's get dual wield, 2 hander, S+B, and bow ^^

Also would be nice to be able to get that crit chance and dmg when stealth attacking, staves don't have it for.. 'reasons'

I can understand that although not sure what 'weapon' they could give you that hits with magicka instead of hitting - dual wands?

Equally stealth from magicka does not seem an unreasonable request if it could be done in keeping with the games mechanics and balance - although a honking great fireball coming at you from behind a rock is somewhat less stealthy than a knife from behind.

maybe a wand as a 1 handed weapon, so you can use them with s+b or dual wield or such, have some magicka morphs for the skills. I'm getting tired of using desto staves

Hence when i finally decide to make a magicka nb, which is going to be a while i'm just going to go dual wield.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

People are getting so used to Elder Magicka Online that they can't imagine that something else that a magicka skill can perform a bit better in some rare situations ... This is just pathetic.

It's a skill that requires you to not use a specific weapon and stacks, the stacking is the problem, zergs will be untouchable.

Have you seen this happening on live servers?
With vigor healing for 50% less on the next patch, how zergs could be more untouchable than on live servers?