Morrowind was the best elder scrolls game ever

Emissary_Vex · August 2015

I can't find the video right now, but there is a video of a developer showing off Morrowind and he talks about how every item in the game was placed by hand. When Oblivion came out they released a video where the developer brags about how the forest is computer generated. Sadly every video game from now on will become more and more computer generated. Not just the trees and grass but the dungeon layouts and anything else they can let the computer do. Sadly its one aspect that continues to get worse since Morrowind.

Many new Elder Scrolls fans do not realize how much Morrowind is to credit for how immersive the series is. Morrowind really fleshed out the lore for the game, it made the Khajiit and Argonians into actual beast races instead of humans like they used to be. The mushrooms and other items being harvestable in such a realistic fashion. Pretty much all of the unique architecture for the series was designed by the Morrowind team.

There are also lots of little things that made Morrowind special, like the levitation spell; which the newer games have been too lazy to incorporate.

Greatsword · August 2015

Emissary_Vex wrote: »

I can't find the video right now, but there is a video of a developer showing off Morrowind and he talks about how every item in the game was placed by hand. When Oblivion came out they released a video where the developer brags about how the forest is computer generated. Sadly every video game from now on will become more and more computer generated. Not just the trees and grass but the dungeon layouts and anything else they can let the computer do. Sadly its one aspect that continues to get worse since Morrowind.

It's not a trend. if anything, Morrowind was the exception from the rule.
That statement about hand placed stuff in Morrowind was so important because its predecessor Daggerfall was 99% randomly computer generated.

lastango · August 2015

I like all of the Elder Scrolls games... Morrowind was definitely the most fantastic world... Vivec... the floating skyscraping city... it was the size of half of Skirim by itself... Imagine if Morrowind was recreated... but with all of todays technology...

Oblivion was vast and awesome...

and Skyrim was nothing short of brilliant too... I contemplated blowing off work on many days to keep playing...

This new one... ESO online... is a mixed bag for me... I could care less about the MMO part at this point... The only things I don't like about this new one are:

1. lack of customization with armor and weapons
2. Many of the caves and dungeons are mirror copies of each other...
and...
3. I'm not as motivated to relentlessly explore... there just aren't enough bizarre and fun characters to dialogue with... treasure chest have many sucky prizes...

I guess they had to make sacrifices to accommodate Cyrodil and MMO.

with that said, I am enjoying the game

F7sus4 · August 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Even in 2002 I found the graphics painful. Uncanny valley all over the place... I could never bring myself to play it because of how awful the graphics were.

Looks like I'm not the only one. Even though Morrowind was a great gaming experience, I hated the very first 3D-modelled games as well. While 2D-sprited/bitmaps were a bit old-fashioned at the time and had their own limitations, they were still on advantage when compared to 3D. A highly temporary one. And then, it took as much as 3-4 years to get our hands on TES IV: Oblivion, and I remember its graphics was often considered as revolutionary. That was the first title I assumed 3D graphics started not only to look decent, but actually good.

Flameheart · August 2015

lastango wrote: »

I like all of the Elder Scrolls games... Morrowind was definitely the most fantastic world... Vivec... the floating skyscraping city... it was the size of half of Skirim by itself... Imagine if Morrowind was recreated... but with all of todays technology...

Oblivion was vast and awesome...

and Skyrim was nothing short of brilliant too... I contemplated blowing off work on many days to keep playing...

This new one... ESO online... is a mixed bag for me... I could care less about the MMO part at this point... The only things I don't like about this new one are:

1. lack of customization with armor and weapons
2. Many of the caves and dungeons are mirror copies of each other...
and...
3. I'm not as motivated to relentlessly explore... there just aren't enough bizarre and fun characters to dialogue with... treasure chest have many sucky prizes...

I guess they had to make sacrifices to accommodate Cyrodil and MMO.

with that said, I am enjoying the game

Never compare single RPGs with MMOs. Two different worlds without any intersection.

Both games are great in their own way.

Volkodav · August 2015

Loving Morrowind as much as I do,I am so glad to see that others here love it as well. The dungeons were often different,with good loot being dropped.AND,..if you killed someone,you could take their clothing,armor,and weapons.In ESO you get junk a lot of the time,but certainly NOT what they are wearing.There was really cool armor,etc.Also in the construction kit you could change the stats of everything,you could add the things that werent already ingame.And you could add a mod,if it didnt show inworld,you could go into that kit and place the bits you wanted into wherever you wanted to.Like on Caius Cosades's bed.I used to place weapons and everything in his house,go ingame and run to get it.
What I miss are the sounds of Morrowind.Cliff Racers as they saw you,scribs,the sound of those Silt Striders lowing as you travel along in places.
(you could also add your own music to the original music files.)

SasheCZ · August 2015

Morowind is the best... For me it's mainly because of the sheer amount of game content in this game...

Weapons: Spear, Crossbow, Throwing Stars, Throwing Knives, Darts, Katana, Dai-Katana, Wakizashi, Tanto, Staff (as a blunt Weapon), Clubs... And as a bonus: DAEDRIC CRESCENT :-D
Spells: Levitate, Mark/Return, Divine/Amlsivi Intervention, Sound, Lock, Jump, Slowfall, Swift Swim
Enchant anything with anything... I once enchanted an Exquisite Robe with a "poisonball" spell and just spammed it at anything that moved, so much fun...:-D

The number of caves, daedric and dwemer ruins and other locations, many of which didn't even have any quests asociated with them! Another story: I was just running around Ashlands and there was this entrance to a Daedric something I never noticed before... I went in and it turned out to be some kind of burial chamber or something like that, lots of money and gems and stuff like that... I pocketed it all, of course and was ready to leave and then I looked up and there was this awesome looking original white shield... I was so happy...:-)

So many quest lines that took forever to complete!! And not really lines, you could choose which quests you wanted to complete, of course I did them all, but you didn't have to, because there were so many, or because you just didn't like the NPC that gave them... Not that Skyrim bs with 5 quests per line...

Then came Oblivion and don't get me wrong, I loved it, but they cut out half of the stuff that was in Morrowind... And then came Skyrim and another cuts came with it... Sure, they added some other stuff and again I loved Skyrim...
But Morrowind will always be Morrowind...:-)

SasheCZ · August 2015

Almost forgot: You could have 17 (!!) pieces of armor and clothing on you at once, every piece with it's own anchantment...

Masuimi · August 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

Loving Morrowind as much as I do,I am so glad to see that others here love it as well. The dungeons were often different,with good loot being dropped.AND,..if you killed someone,you could take their clothing,armor,and weapons.In ESO you get junk a lot of the time,but certainly NOT what they are wearing.There was really cool armor,etc.Also in the construction kit you could change the stats of everything,you could add the things that werent already ingame.And you could add a mod,if it didnt show inworld,you could go into that kit and place the bits you wanted into wherever you wanted to.Like on Caius Cosades's bed.I used to place weapons and everything in his house,go ingame and run to get it.
What I miss are the sounds of Morrowind.Cliff Racers as they saw you,scribs,the sound of those Silt Striders lowing as you travel along in places.
(you could also add your own music to the original music files.)

Yup I LOVED that!!

Some guy would be walking around with a cool chest peice, or cool weapon, and i'd follow him and murder him to find out what it was lol.

It was awesome that anything you saw someone wearing would be in their loot table when you killed them. So sweet!!

Lightninvash · August 2015

I remember jumping up every step then jumping down and back up again for hrs training and lvling up so I could jump higher then get on a roof and kill guards with my bow haha

Masuimi · August 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

I remember jumping up every step then jumping down and back up again for hrs training and lvling up so I could jump higher then get on a roof and kill guards with my bow haha

Haha i remember that too. The long ramps in vivec city were awesome for that!

Another thing I remember: That random island on the east part of the map with that floating house/castle thing pretty high in the sky. I remember flying up their for the first time, meeting some 1000 year old wizard, murdering him, and taking it over as my homebase. Felt like a boss haha

I had permanent levitation and speed boost (you could make some really cool builds with those 'constant' enchant effects, and 17 armor slots to work with for diff enchants).

Lightninvash · August 2015

Masuimi wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

I remember jumping up every step then jumping down and back up again for hrs training and lvling up so I could jump higher then get on a roof and kill guards with my bow haha

Haha i remember that too. The long ramps in vivec city were awesome for that!

Another thing I remember: That random island on the east part of the map with that floating house/castle thing pretty high in the sky. I remember flying up their for the first time, meeting some 1000 year old wizard, murdering him, and taking it over as my homebase. Felt like a boss haha

I had permanent levitation and speed boost (you could make some really cool builds with those 'constant' enchant effects, and 17 armor slots to work with for diff enchants).

remember the acrobatic scroll that gave you 1000 acrobatics and you jumped like 1/4th the way across the map haha just sitting there like hmm when will I fall....

olsborg · August 2015

All the TES single player games has given me something special if we look at game experience. All of them brought something new to the table and all of them was, for their time, excellent games. My alltime favorite tho, must be ....shared first place between Skyrim and Morrowind...followed very closely by Oblivion.

Masuimi · August 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

Masuimi wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

I remember jumping up every step then jumping down and back up again for hrs training and lvling up so I could jump higher then get on a roof and kill guards with my bow haha

Haha i remember that too. The long ramps in vivec city were awesome for that!

Another thing I remember: That random island on the east part of the map with that floating house/castle thing pretty high in the sky. I remember flying up their for the first time, meeting some 1000 year old wizard, murdering him, and taking it over as my homebase. Felt like a boss haha

I had permanent levitation and speed boost (you could make some really cool builds with those 'constant' enchant effects, and 17 armor slots to work with for diff enchants).

remember the acrobatic scroll that gave you 1000 acrobatics and you jumped like 1/4th the way across the map haha

Yup it was sweet, and near the end of that playthrough I had created a spell that let me do the same exact thing. Jumping from city to city in like 3 jumps was pretty badass lol. Just don't botch the landing or you're F'd.

Masuimi · August 2015

and lol at punching towns people with like 10000 strength and watching them stay unconscious for like 24 in game hours.

Lightninvash · August 2015

Masuimi wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

Masuimi wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

I remember jumping up every step then jumping down and back up again for hrs training and lvling up so I could jump higher then get on a roof and kill guards with my bow haha

Haha i remember that too. The long ramps in vivec city were awesome for that!

Another thing I remember: That random island on the east part of the map with that floating house/castle thing pretty high in the sky. I remember flying up their for the first time, meeting some 1000 year old wizard, murdering him, and taking it over as my homebase. Felt like a boss haha

I had permanent levitation and speed boost (you could make some really cool builds with those 'constant' enchant effects, and 17 armor slots to work with for diff enchants).

remember the acrobatic scroll that gave you 1000 acrobatics and you jumped like 1/4th the way across the map haha

Yup it was sweet, and near the end of that playthrough I had created a spell that let me do the same exact thing. Jumping from city to city in like 3 jumps was pretty badass lol. Just don't botch the landing or you're F'd.

right if u didn't time it right you were screwed and not in the good way haha.

Pallmor · August 2015

Morrowind, Halo, and Knights of the Old Republic were the games that got me back into console gaming. They really showed what consoles would be capable of going forward with a hard drive and decent specs.

Sallington · August 2015

Not just the best ES game, but the best RPG of all time.

Gedalya · August 2015

I loved Morrowind; but I have a special place in my heart for Oblivion, and Skyrim both; ESOTU also. They are all great games in their own right. I never felt compelled to suggest one as better than the rest.

Hope499 · August 2015

Flying/levitation spell plus your own makeshift firespells....

Flying in the air over enemies, raining destruction down upon them.

Yes...Morrowind rocked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbr1h_d-Qa4

Scroll memories for those who remember:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJq0iXOwb9Y

Enteum · August 2015

Crazy how this thread pops up after starting a new character on Morrowind

Must get new mods!!!

newtinmpls · August 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

remember the acrobatic scroll that gave you 1000 acrobatics and you jumped like 1/4th the way across the map haha just sitting there like hmm when will I fall....

Remember Tarheel? I worked so hard to figure out a way to save him from that fall, and then he wouldn't even speak to me. Rude Altmer.....

DarkMatter909 · August 2015

I got so used to jumping everywhere in Morrowind and Oblivion to level up that skill, acrobatics was it not?, that i still do it. Other than pvp i hate riding my horse and prefer to jump or run everywhere in Tamriel. Morrowind was my 1st es game so it will always be my favorite. Morrowind and kotor were the reasons i got an xbox in the first place.
Jump everywhere if you love Morrowind!!

ForfiniteStories · August 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

Cliff Racers should NOT be "feathered"

I believe those were Cliff Darters. I saw an actual Cliff Racer (no feathers and sharper beak) while atop Ash Mountain or some other summit. Flew in close. Only one I've seen. Hard to spot if you don't look up occasionally.

Or maybe it was just my imagination.

Lightninvash · August 2015

newtinmpls wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

remember the acrobatic scroll that gave you 1000 acrobatics and you jumped like 1/4th the way across the map haha just sitting there like hmm when will I fall....

Remember Tarheel? I worked so hard to figure out a way to save him from that fall, and then he wouldn't even speak to me. Rude Altmer.....

aren't we all rude?

he didn't want your petty saving bwahahaha jk jk

Scyantific · August 2015

Two Words:

Back Path

Enough said.

Some of you console kiddies might not know what the Back Path is though.

Masuimi · August 2015

Oh man i miss this game.

Lol i remember making a fire ball spell that had like 30m radius (or w.e was maximum) and would stay on the ground for like 2 minutes (with stupid high destruction skill obviously). Could literally turn a whole city into a giant firestorm

ForfiniteStories · August 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

remember the acrobatic scroll that gave you 1000 acrobatics and you jumped like 1/4th the way across the map haha just sitting there like hmm when will I fall....

Remember Tarheel? I worked so hard to figure out a way to save him from that fall, and then he wouldn't even speak to me. Rude Altmer.....

aren't we all rude? he didn't want your petty saving bwahahaha jk jk

He was actually a Bosmer

nimander99 · August 2015

I loved Morrowind, I still hop on every once in a while and love my expanded Tamriel mod (forget the actual name) Morrowind Mainland or something like that... its freaking awesome!

But as my favorite games are MMO's, ESO is the best thing since sliced bread for me

ForfiniteStories · August 2015

Tarrin wrote: »

Morr is about questing without clues for me

I play ESO as Morrowind: pinkiller + true exploration addon.

It would also be nice if there was a mod, or that the NPCs in general gave better/more specific directions and context. Heck, a journal would be nice too, like in Morrowind. Of course, you can always write things down yourself. It's just that without quest markers, the lack of context would make finding some things a hassle, assuming that there is any such quest in which the location of the objectives aren't already obvious.