Tab Target 2.0

Araxleon · August 2015

The new tab target really sucks, visually its great but design its horrible you cannot focus, some would say its better but honestly... You can abuse alot with it, I stood inside my engine guadian proc and nobody could hit me since guardian was in the way, please bring old tab target mechanics back but keep visual.

But what does everyone think? Tell me what you like or hate about it.

Anazasi · August 2015

what you can tab target? ha ha I use tab key as my ts PTT binding.

Springt-Über-Zwerge · August 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

what you can tab target? ha ha I use tab key as my ts PTT binding.

You never used it to counter mist form?

Derra · August 2015

I really dislike the visual aswell.

Bring back the old system completely.

Ahzek · August 2015

It's under controlls "cycle through preferred target".

Sharee · August 2015

What i would like is to keep the new visuals, but also bring back the old 'bracket' system on top of it. Both have their merits - the new outline allows you to see what the target is doing while out of LOS, while the bracket is better for keeping track of your target in a crowded scenario (especially if you have expert hunter slotted and the room is full of daedra...)

Ezareth · August 2015

Yeah I'm noticing more and more hitting the wrong target in IC as well using the new Tab system.

To me this is one of those changes you find that are aesthetically appealing but fuctionally unworkable.

Teargrants · August 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Yeah I'm noticing more and more hitting the wrong target in IC as well using the new Tab system.

To me this is one of those changes you find that are aesthetically appealing but fuctionally unworkable.

Working as intended, results of skilled play are artificially skewed to more resemble unskilled play. Derp.

lonewolf26 · August 2015

I like the visual change, but hate that it no longer focuses. I imagine a lot of ppl are going to eat it in trials if you hit something you don't mean to aggro. Axes I'm talking about you.

asneakybanana · August 2015

The changes are bs. I'm obviously focussed on a player for a reason and its not to hit the guy body blocking him. Idk who came up with the idea but is absolutely atrocious other than the new look. I'm sure it was just another way zos was helping the newbies out who didn't know to tabtarget the healer.

Springt-Über-Zwerge · August 2015

asneakybanana wrote: »

The changes are bs. I'm obviously focussed on a player for a reason and its not to hit the guy body blocking him. Idk who came up with the idea but is absolutely atrocious other than the new look. I'm sure it was just another way zos was helping the newbies out who didn't know to tabtarget the healer.

Maybe they made it for tanks to be good for something in pvp

aco5712 · August 2015

its shocking. Looks fantastic but doesnt work.

Draxys · August 2015

It's bad

Hiero_Glyph · August 2015

asneakybanana wrote: »

The changes are bs. I'm obviously focussed on a player for a reason and its not to hit the guy body blocking him. Idk who came up with the idea but is absolutely atrocious other than the new look. I'm sure it was just another way zos was helping the newbies out who didn't know to tabtarget the healer.

I think its the same system they currenty use on consoles as they do not have tab targetting, or even a command to do so. I wonder if this change is to allow for controller support due to the limited button mapping options; my guess is that it is.

Draxys · August 2015

Sharee wrote: »

What i would like is to keep the new visuals, but also bring back the old 'bracket' system on top of it. Both have their merits - the new outline allows you to see what the target is doing while out of LOS, while the bracket is better for keeping track of your target in a crowded scenario (especially if you have expert hunter slotted and the room is full of daedra...)

We don't even need to see what they're doing, the point is to see where they are. No need to keep tabs on their everyday lives while they're out of sight, it's just another instance of catering to people who have no idea what's going on.

ToRelax · August 2015

I don't think I like not being able to hit my target. I would rather be able to again.

ThyIronFist · August 2015

It's really bad, need the old one back.

Xeniph · August 2015

I posted about this on the first day. The visual is ok (prefer the old one), but the soft lock fuctionality is basically gone. Anything, and I do mean anything that gets between you and your tab target will take the hit. I have seen instances where the ability will literally veer from a straight line to hit a mob over a tabbed player.

jrkhan · August 2015

Hmm, does this get rid of the bug where occasionally you'd have tab targeted something like a siege weapon or a wall and can't actually switch targets or soft target things to hit anything with targeted attacks until it 'clears up'?

I'm okay with hitting body blockers if that other bug is fixed.

Teiji · August 2015

New tab targeting is a psuedo-buff to heavy armor tanks.

The same way Shieldbreaker set is a placeholder fix for damage shields.

Cycle through preferred target will be adjusted only once heavy armor has been addressed six months from now.

Iyas · August 2015

give me the old system back

Personofsecrets · August 2015

visual sucks and seems not as responsive as the old system.

@ZOS_RichLambert can you stats on ift people who don't like the new tab targeting versus people who do are at the 50/50 sweet spot?

AssaultLemming · August 2015

Hate this new system, seems like it doesn't work at all, harder to see where your target is and doesn't seem like it's aiming any more either. Being able to focus on a single target is particularly important in PvP, fix this please.

curlyqloub14_ESO · September 2015

Agree with the other posters here - new tab target is really bad. I haven't even noticed not being able to target the one you want, but the visual is really hard to see when there is any group of mobs (so pretty much every dungeon all the time). The white does not stand out against all the spells and AoEs being cast...stuff like Nova completely covers up the white outline.

In addition, it's no longer clear when you are NOT aimed at the target box anymore. You can turn completely around, and the white outline is still on the mob. As a bow user, this is a huge drawback - I use tab targeting all the time for aiming my snipes, and I don't watch my skill bar to see when the icon blacks out. Just ran a dungeon, and had no idea if I was hitting my mark or not.

I would be happy with the suggestion someone made earlier to have both the new AND old, but definitely need the old boxes back - they were WAY more useful.

Tankqull · September 2015

Araxleon wrote: »

The new tab target really sucks, visually its great but design its horrible you cannot focus, some would say its better but honestly... You can abuse alot with it, I stood inside my engine guadian proc and nobody could hit me since guardian was in the way, please bring old tab target mechanics back but keep visual.

But what does everyone think? Tell me what you like or hate about it.

actually i do not see the problem it works the same way as in 1.6 only the "outer box" animation wich isnt indicating the target area at all in 1.6 nor now has been changed.
you can still tab-target your enemy aim roughly in its direction without accidently aiming a target(red glow around it) passing through your LOS as you could in 1.6 and still hit your tab-target.

but i would actually like the 1.5 mechanic back as with 1.6 the line of fire mechanic has been added screwing your tab-targeting if sth walks through your attack line in that moment...

F7sus4 · September 2015

All you can do is adapt or refrain from using it (or complain at the forums).

Anzo · September 2015

I relied on the old target system to actually kill people with my bow. Now I'm hitting mobs and crap that I don't want. Also the new glow looks too much like vamp glow from camouflaged hunter.

Docmandu · September 2015

F7sus4 wrote: »

All you can do is adapt or refrain from using it (or complain at the forums).

Or use in-game feedback, which is linked to /dev/null

ToRelax · September 2015

Tankqull wrote: »

Araxleon wrote: »

The new tab target really sucks, visually its great but design its horrible you cannot focus, some would say its better but honestly... You can abuse alot with it, I stood inside my engine guadian proc and nobody could hit me since guardian was in the way, please bring old tab target mechanics back but keep visual.

But what does everyone think? Tell me what you like or hate about it.

actually i do not see the problem it works the same way as in 1.6 only the "outer box" animation wich isnt indicating the target area at all in 1.6 nor now has been changed.
you can still tab-target your enemy aim roughly in its direction without accidently aiming a target(red glow around it) passing through your LOS as you could in 1.6 and still hit your tab-target.

but i would actually like the 1.5 mechanic back as with 1.6 the line of fire mechanic has been added screwing your tab-targeting if sth walks through your attack line in that moment...

On PTS I consistently hit anything getting between me and my target.

Maulkin · September 2015

Target-locking has basically been removed, that's what happened.

You can see your target, but you cant hit him if there's another possible target between you.

Tankqull · September 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

Araxleon wrote: »

The new tab target really sucks, visually its great but design its horrible you cannot focus, some would say its better but honestly... You can abuse alot with it, I stood inside my engine guadian proc and nobody could hit me since guardian was in the way, please bring old tab target mechanics back but keep visual.

But what does everyone think? Tell me what you like or hate about it.

actually i do not see the problem it works the same way as in 1.6 only the "outer box" animation wich isnt indicating the target area at all in 1.6 nor now has been changed.
you can still tab-target your enemy aim roughly in its direction without accidently aiming a target(red glow around it) passing through your LOS as you could in 1.6 and still hit your tab-target.

but i would actually like the 1.5 mechanic back as with 1.6 the line of fire mechanic has been added screwing your tab-targeting if sth walks through your attack line in that moment...

On PTS I consistently hit anything getting between me and my target.

that´s actually happeneing since 1.6 this patch only changed how the tabtarget is displayed not its actual hitbox or target preferation.