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Dev Let's play - Stuck in combat .. justice

Docmandu
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So the Dev's had a twitch play session yesterday:

http://www.twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/12594801
http://www.twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/profile/past_broadcasts

and finally they sort of confirmed that the stuck in combat is a bug... now all we need is them to finally dedicate some resources to fixing this 1 year old bug!
  • Docmandu
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    Sigh forum messing up the links..

    hxxp://www.twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/v/12594801
    hxxp://www.twitch.tv/zenimaxonlinestudios/profile/past_broadcasts

    change the hxxp to http...
  • Weberda
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    There is no way they can plead to ignorance of this bug. It's been around since release and there have been enough posts on this forum to create a book. The reason they ignore the thing is because it's related to the latency problem and they do not have either the means, the will, or the talent to fix it.
    Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
    Lo Behold, AD Thornblade NA (formerly Haderus, inactive)
  • OGLezard
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    I like how brian was spamming liquid lightning as if it was a single target skill let alone would do any serious damage to anyone even the mobs......I had to stop watching after I seen that. Just more proof they are so out of whack with what skills no one uses let alone how to actually use them.....
    Edited by OGLezard on August 25, 2015 12:39PM
  • xylena
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    still don't understand how i'm "in combat" after dying and respawning at a safe zone

    still don't understand why i can't ride my mount in combat mode, this restriction servers no purpose

    my immersion is ruined again
    PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || solo/smallscale || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP
  • Soulac
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    My group members are attacking some people and I get in combat as well without even doing something.
    Even funnier is the fact that they got out of fight earlier than me and I couldn't mount for five minutes while not attacking anything at all.

    R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
    Member of the Arena Guild and the overpowered Banana Squad.
    Nathaerizh aka Cat - Nightblade V16 - EU

    - Meow -
  • EnOeZ
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    OGLezard wrote: »
    I like how brian was spamming liquid lightning as if it was a single target skill let alone would do any serious damage to anyone even the mobs......I had to stop watching after I seen that. Just more proof they are so out of whack with what skills no one uses let alone how to actually use them.....

    Did you notice the use of 2H Brawler too ? On the templar toon....
    Come on Brawler !! the worst 2H ability for PVP by far.

    I understand that afterwork they do not want to play the game, but perhaps they should change the decision making process of PVP ability design and get an advisory board of the top PVPers of each combination of Class/Resource/Armor type.

    And hire some "Head of PVP Balance" designer
    ... and some "Head of PVP performance" engineer !
  • BuggeX
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    EnOeZ wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    I like how brian was spamming liquid lightning as if it was a single target skill let alone would do any serious damage to anyone even the mobs......I had to stop watching after I seen that. Just more proof they are so out of whack with what skills no one uses let alone how to actually use them.....

    Did you notice the use of 2H Brawler too ? On the templar toon....
    Come on Brawler !! the worst 2H ability for PVP by far.

    There is a Stamina 2H DK on EU Azura with Brawler, he *** crush Groups of 10 Players in no time.
    His Dmg is insane, is mitigation is even better than i saw on most "tank" Dks. dont call brawer to be uselles in pvp just becaus you dont know how to use
    #makemagickadkgreataigan
    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • OGLezard
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    EnOeZ wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    I like how brian was spamming liquid lightning as if it was a single target skill let alone would do any serious damage to anyone even the mobs......I had to stop watching after I seen that. Just more proof they are so out of whack with what skills no one uses let alone how to actually use them.....

    Did you notice the use of 2H Brawler too ? On the templar toon....
    Come on Brawler !! the worst 2H ability for PVP by far.

    I understand that afterwork they do not want to play the game, but perhaps they should change the decision making process of PVP ability design and get an advisory board of the top PVPers of each combination of Class/Resource/Armor type.

    And hire some "Head of PVP Balance" designer
    ... and some "Head of PVP performance" engineer !

    yea I noticed all of that lol but dont worry though, in regards to AoE DoT, eric thinks they are in a really good spot because they increased the duration and anyone who stands in them will melt......

    *stands in it and laughs until some guy runs up and spams steel tornado*

    WTF!!!!

    *starts to run away from the 9k steel tornado aoe.........*

    Cuz that makes sense ya know :P
    Edited by OGLezard on August 25, 2015 1:49PM
  • Robbmrp
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    xylena wrote: »
    still don't understand how i'm "in combat" after dying and respawning at a safe zone

    still don't understand why i can't ride my mount in combat mode, this restriction servers no purpose

    my immersion is ruined again

    I agree. You can be attacked while mounted so why can you not mount up as well? In Cyrodil you should be able to mount regardless of in or our of combat.
    NA Server - Kildair
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Weberda wrote: »
    There is no way they can plead to ignorance of this bug. It's been around since release and there have been enough posts on this forum to create a book. The reason they ignore the thing is because it's related to the latency problem and they do not have either the means, the will, or the talent to fix it.

    Since reloading your UI tends to fix it (sometimes you need to do it 2 times since you might still be legitimately in combat the first time you do it), I figured it might be related to a UI issue.
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
  • Docmandu
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    Weberda wrote: »
    There is no way they can plead to ignorance of this bug. It's been around since release and there have been enough posts on this forum to create a book. The reason they ignore the thing is because it's related to the latency problem and they do not have either the means, the will, or the talent to fix it.

    Since reloading your UI tends to fix it (sometimes you need to do it 2 times since you might still be legitimately in combat the first time you do it), I figured it might be related to a UI issue.

    Doesn't explain why you can't mount your horse or why your regen is still the in-combat regen value or why you can't stealth on anything other than an NB.

  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Robbmrp wrote: »
    xylena wrote: »
    still don't understand how i'm "in combat" after dying and respawning at a safe zone

    still don't understand why i can't ride my mount in combat mode, this restriction servers no purpose

    my immersion is ruined again

    I agree. You can be attacked while mounted so why can you not mount up as well? In Cyrodil you should be able to mount regardless of in or our of combat.

    Yes that would be awesome. Finally a chance to catch a sorc!
    PC,EU, EP
    Der-über-Zwerge-springt (Argonian, Magplar), Surtur Velothi (Dunmer, Magdk), Jaqene H'ghar (Imperial, Stamblade), Puppyslayer (Orc, Stamdk), Dagoth Era (Dunmer, Magblade), Æthmon Trevas (Altmer, Magsorc), Der-Zuletzt-Lacht (Argonian, Magden), Sir-Lanzeflott (Redguard, Stamplar)
  • Ingenium01
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    Templar here, we don't use mounts.... We jog!
    Edited by Ingenium01 on August 25, 2015 3:40PM
    NA/AD- Malford, Altmer Templar
    "For the Dominion!"
  • EnOeZ
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    EnOeZ wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    I like how brian was spamming liquid lightning as if it was a single target skill let alone would do any serious damage to anyone even the mobs......I had to stop watching after I seen that. Just more proof they are so out of whack with what skills no one uses let alone how to actually use them.....

    Did you notice the use of 2H Brawler too ? On the templar toon....
    Come on Brawler !! the worst 2H ability for PVP by far.

    There is a Stamina 2H DK on EU Azura with Brawler, he *** crush Groups of 10 Players in no time.
    His Dmg is insane, is mitigation is even better than i saw on most "tank" Dks. dont call brawer to be uselles in pvp just becaus you dont know how to use

    I just have to believe your words or you show us something ?
    Because you know I believe neither in Santa Claus nor in BuggeX...

    Looking for the video of him taking, as Stamina DK, 10 players simultaneously "in no time" with brawler equipped...
    Why is he not in the new top 5 series of Lefty Lucy yet ????

    The only combo I know that could achieve this in optimal conditions and "in no time" solo is NB + magicka detonation + Ultimate.
  • Xeniph
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    Ingenium01 wrote: »
    Templar here, we don't use mounts.... We jog!

    QFT!
    This is the number one reason why you don't see overweight Templars.
    Here since Beta.

    Characters: All of them, both Stamina and Magicka.
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    Weberda wrote: »
    There is no way they can plead to ignorance of this bug. It's been around since release and there have been enough posts on this forum to create a book. The reason they ignore the thing is because it's related to the latency problem and they do not have either the means, the will, or the talent to fix it.

    Since reloading your UI tends to fix it (sometimes you need to do it 2 times since you might still be legitimately in combat the first time you do it), I figured it might be related to a UI issue.

    Doesn't explain why you can't mount your horse or why your regen is still the in-combat regen value or why you can't stealth on anything other than an NB.

    Oh no, I didn't mean it was a display error, I meant something in the UI code was causing the bug preventing you from leaving combat.
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
  • Ingenium01
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    Xeniph wrote: »
    Ingenium01 wrote: »
    Templar here, we don't use mounts.... We jog!

    QFT!
    This is the number one reason why you don't see overweight Templars.

    This is true...
    NA/AD- Malford, Altmer Templar
    "For the Dominion!"
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    Weberda wrote: »
    There is no way they can plead to ignorance of this bug. It's been around since release and there have been enough posts on this forum to create a book. The reason they ignore the thing is because it's related to the latency problem and they do not have either the means, the will, or the talent to fix it.

    Speaking of which, here is my obligatory post about the issue on the PTS!
    Gore-of-the-Forest Argonian Nightblade
    Wode Earthrender Breton Dragonknight
    Ceol the Last Baron Redguard Dragonknight
    Wayra High Elf Sorceress
    Erebain Salothran Dark Elf Templar
    Rituals-of-the-Forest Argonian Warden
  • Weberda
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    Weberda wrote: »
    There is no way they can plead to ignorance of this bug. It's been around since release and there have been enough posts on this forum to create a book. The reason they ignore the thing is because it's related to the latency problem and they do not have either the means, the will, or the talent to fix it.

    Speaking of which, here is my obligatory post about the issue on the PTS!

    Yeah, I can see where that is going to be one of those really big problems that everybody has and will be forced to accept.

    Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
    Lo Behold, AD Thornblade NA (formerly Haderus, inactive)
  • Docmandu
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    So I guess me hoping for a fix for this is akin to hoping for a miracle, right? With the later probably more likely to happen than the former.

  • Weberda
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    So I guess me hoping for a fix for this is akin to hoping for a miracle, right? With the later probably more likely to happen than the former.

    Yep, pretty much. I'm fairly certain that you and I and most people that currently use this forum will be long gone before "Stuck In Combat" gets fixed (based on what I've seen over the last year and 4 months).

    Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
    Lo Behold, AD Thornblade NA (formerly Haderus, inactive)
  • Docmandu
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    I'm sure a forum mod will fix the issue by deleting this post >:)
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    Gore-of-the-Forest Argonian Nightblade
    Wode Earthrender Breton Dragonknight
    Ceol the Last Baron Redguard Dragonknight
    Wayra High Elf Sorceress
    Erebain Salothran Dark Elf Templar
    Rituals-of-the-Forest Argonian Warden
  • BuggeX
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    EnOeZ wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    EnOeZ wrote: »
    OGLezard wrote: »
    I like how brian was spamming liquid lightning as if it was a single target skill let alone would do any serious damage to anyone even the mobs......I had to stop watching after I seen that. Just more proof they are so out of whack with what skills no one uses let alone how to actually use them.....

    Did you notice the use of 2H Brawler too ? On the templar toon....
    Come on Brawler !! the worst 2H ability for PVP by far.

    There is a Stamina 2H DK on EU Azura with Brawler, he *** crush Groups of 10 Players in no time.
    His Dmg is insane, is mitigation is even better than i saw on most "tank" Dks. dont call brawer to be uselles in pvp just becaus you dont know how to use

    I just have to believe your words or you show us something ?
    Because you know I believe neither in Santa Claus nor in BuggeX...

    Looking for the video of him taking, as Stamina DK, 10 players simultaneously "in no time" with brawler equipped...
    Why is he not in the new top 5 series of Lefty Lucy yet ????

    The only combo I know that could achieve this in optimal conditions and "in no time" solo is NB + magicka detonation + Ultimate.

    You know, pts and live is a bit different?

    Take flight 15k dmg - brawler 5k dmg > Execute
    #makemagickadkgreataigan
    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
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