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Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
*nods* Yes, what other players do or don't do, really won't affect the rest of us playing. It won't be as if they'll have an option to change to a far 'better' race that is only available through the crown store.The only downside I can think of is that you may end up with loads of people swapping to whatever the flavour of the month is for the best race.
Personally it wouldn't affect me because I don't really care what other people do with their characters' races, and I wouldn't even consider changing the race of any of my own characters.
I could see how PVP folks might be concerned about people swapping to FotM races. Wouldn't make any difference to me though.Rev Rielle wrote: »*nods* Yes, what other players do or don't do, really won't affect the rest of us playing. It won't be as if they'll have an option to change to a far 'better' race that is only available through the crown store.The only downside I can think of is that you may end up with loads of people swapping to whatever the flavour of the month is for the best race.
Personally it wouldn't affect me because I don't really care what other people do with their characters' races, and I wouldn't even consider changing the race of any of my own characters.
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Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
Well I'm a PvPer, and I wouldn't be worried about it at all. Additionally, l'm not a good PvPer by any stretch of the imagination. So I don't think anyone that is competent in Cyrodiil would care in the slighest.I could see how PVP folks might be concerned about people swapping to FotM races. Wouldn't make any difference to me though.Rev Rielle wrote: »*nods* Yes, what other players do or don't do, really won't affect the rest of us playing. It won't be as if they'll have an option to change to a far 'better' race that is only available through the crown store.The only downside I can think of is that you may end up with loads of people swapping to whatever the flavour of the month is for the best race.
Personally it wouldn't affect me because I don't really care what other people do with their characters' races, and I wouldn't even consider changing the race of any of my own characters.
I think you're probably right about that. The only reason I brought it up is because it was the only argument against allowing race changes that I could think of. I don't happen to think it's a very good argument, but I can't think of any other real reason people might object.Rev Rielle wrote: »Flavour of the month (FotM) is a very commonly used acronym when such things are brought up. However I think it's a lot like the 'pink' armour argument about dying weapons/shields/armour that happens on nearly every forum of every mmo: A lot of players are afraid and worried that everyone will be in pink (i.e. hideous) colours, but in reality this never happens in game.
It's much the same with the FotM racial changes I believe; a lot of players are afraid this will happen, but it never seems to.
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Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
ChibiMechaX78 wrote: »but what are the downsides to be able to do that in eso?
YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »Why not add a new world race(like for vamp and WW) called dragon born , where I can shout and my enemies will fly( just imagine in pvp ,how it will look).
Maotti_Nor wrote: »I honestly don't want racechanges, racialpassivechanges however! That i want to see.
YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »Why not add a new world race(like for vamp and WW) called dragon born , where I can shout and my enemies will fly( just imagine in pvp ,how it will look).
Yes, if you want the majority of players to quit and the game to get shut down within a year, that's an excellent idea.
Otherwise, it is a really, really, really BAD idea.
YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »Why not add a new world race(like for vamp and WW) called dragon born , where I can shout and my enemies will fly( just imagine in pvp ,how it will look).
Yes, if you want the majority of players to quit and the game to get shut down within a year, that's an excellent idea.
Otherwise, it is a really, really, really BAD idea.
At least, the shout can be an uultimate (the morph can summon a dragon to do the shout).The rest can be passive and no active abilites.
If it was a straight-up change of race on say your VR14 character from say Altmer to Breton, I imagine the main downside would be the fact you haven't levelled Breton passives. You've levelled Altmer passives. Thinking of it like the Werewolf/Vampire stuff. You can cure yourself of being one but if you should choose to go back to it, you've already levelled it, but if you choose the other, you've not yet levelled it and must start that over from scratch. On semi-rare occasions, this is already apparent with racials anyway. You can notice that your racial XP is not in line with your actual XP. Not entirely sure what causes this to happen but that is why I would imagine a racial change would be treated like the werewolf/vampire system and you'd have to earn XP yet again for that new line.
If it was a straight-up change of race on say your VR14 character from say Altmer to Breton, I imagine the main downside would be the fact you haven't levelled Breton passives. You've levelled Altmer passives. Thinking of it like the Werewolf/Vampire stuff. You can cure yourself of being one but if you should choose to go back to it, you've already levelled it, but if you choose the other, you've not yet levelled it and must start that over from scratch. On semi-rare occasions, this is already apparent with racials anyway. You can notice that your racial XP is not in line with your actual XP. Not entirely sure what causes this to happen but that is why I would imagine a racial change would be treated like the werewolf/vampire system and you'd have to earn XP yet again for that new line.
Easily solved - after race change all achievements etc get wiped and you start at level 1 in the Coldharbour prison.
ChibiMechaX78 wrote: »I know this may have been brought up many times.
The ability to change your race after the character creation,
but what are the downsides to be able to do that in eso?
That's purely what this thread is about, and that's all I want to know. If there are cons, do they outweigh the positives depending on how the devs go about it?
For example would it be a crown store purchase or in-game? Regardless if it makes sense to change your race in-mid game.
YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »Why not add a new world race(like for vamp and WW) called dragon born , where I can shout and my enemies will fly( just imagine in pvp ,how it will look).
YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »Why not add a new world race(like for vamp and WW) called dragon born , where I can shout and my enemies will fly( just imagine in pvp ,how it will look).
Yes, if you want the majority of players to quit and the game to get shut down within a year, that's an excellent idea.
Otherwise, it is a really, really, really BAD idea.
At least, the shout can be an uultimate (the morph can summon a dragon to do the shout).The rest can be passive and no active abilites.
Oh my, he actually was serious :-(