dietlime wrote: »

I don't have the time to invest, plain and simple. I don't want to start the vet levels over - but there's a great group I'd like to play with on another faction! Particularly nearing completion in my crafting skills, ESO is a game I really just want to play the one character in. It could cost money, be time-limited, or outright single-use!

In lieu of that, are there any large guilds on AD NA that have active VOIP community? I can't find a group to chill with to pass the time in this very laid-back game. A lot of guild claim they use voip but are perhaps two or three in one channel per night, I'm looking for a group large enough to warrant a couple channels just to keep chatter manageable. A community at least a bit bigger than just a clan.

nope

tengri wrote: »

Reward for handing in Caldwell's Gold should have been one bound faction change token.
After all - if you had come that far you finally should have "experienced" all the other alliances like Meridia suggested... and now know where you truly want to be.

Agreed, this allows for a very limited change and prevents people quitting halfway through trying to level another character.

I'm fine with letting people switch factions only if they get locked out of PVP.

tengri wrote: »

Reward for handing in Caldwell's Gold should have been one bound faction change token.
After all - if you had come that far you finally should have "experienced" all the other alliances like Meridia suggested... and now know where you truly want to be.

I like this idea. It makes a lot of sense. Caldwell's Silver and Gold is actually more like a long version of tutorial and introduce each faction to the vestige and help them decide which faction is worth their loyalty.

Personally, I never really like AD. After experiencing Caldwell's Gold and the poor voice acting of Queen Ayrenn that makes her a pale character and unworthy leader, I am glad my main characters are in EP and DC. But there must be some people out there who regret their decisions.

I understand faction change can be of great influence on PvP but it also has a lot to do with roleplaying. A wrong character in a wrong faction can truly destroy one's rp experience.

Flexus wrote: »

I dont think its really a good idea, it will probably kill PvP. Slackers and pvpwhores will just change to the strongest faction at first and then more will follow and at last you end up with only one strong fraction, or 2. Ive seen it in plenty more games so I speak of experience. I choose AD at first and I stand or die with AD no matter. If your unhappy reroll sry but thats it... Im really worried such choice would ruin Pvp for good the parts that still work ok today!

Probably this. There are other games with faction sides that offer a 'betrayal' quest line. However there is a level cap for them, usually around 10 or 20, and there are lots of reasons why.

I beg ZOS to implement faction changes. Playing on EU EP is... Sad.

Zero skill, Zero brain activity, Zero common sense. Pact is just full of people that like skyrim and think that ESO is skyrim online. It hurts to be there

The idea to force people into a Faction at Character creation was a mistake for an Elder Scrolls game, even if it is the first online endeavor. The entire Main Story, Fighters Guild and Mages Guild isn't even intertwined with anything going on in Cyrodiil, bar some mentions of it in dialogue. Even the Alliance Story questlines in each zone only mention the war and you fight an opposing factions NPCs occasionally, but that's it until you actually go to Cyrodiil yourself. All the above dialogue could easily be altered to make a bit more sense to someone that isn't affiliate with any alliance at all.

The only choice you should have made in Character creation is which City to start in. In fact they should have only let you make a decision on the Alliance you wish to represent after you have experienced all 3 Alliance stories. Until then, while in Cyrodiil, all 3 Alliances are considered your enemy. This would actually give you somewhat more of an incentive to finish the Alliance stories and afterwards pick an Alliance so at least you'd have a third of the map friendly.

Another world design that should have never happened is the splitting of the 3 Alliance areas into separate instances depending on Alliance choice. This should have been nothing more than picking a City to start in, period. If a friend started in Stonefalls, another in Auridon and you picked Glenumbra, you all should have been able to meet up somewhere an any Alliance zone and Cyrodiil shouldn't feel so cut off from the rest of the world by not being allowed to zone in from the border gates like any other area. I believe this would just make for a better MMO overall, the current system has split the player base too much and makes for a less "alive" world.

Typed too much for a reply again and about something that won't happen too, lol. Nice work Riko!

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

dietlime wrote: »

Obviously we can't just have people swapping willy-nilly, it'll screw up balance (people would bandwagon their advanced characters in an organized way and stack the game) that said, the option should exist in some limited form.

The point you make about balance is exactly the reason they should not and hopefully will not be implemented. Unfortunately, with AvA, RvR type PvP many players go to the alliances that already have more people playing in it so offering an easy way to switch would undermine the PvP we have. Those that can afford the crown will all end up in the same alliance.

All that's going to happen anyway. Unhappy DC PvEers (and probably some PvPers) like me are already rolling alts in droves to get our buffs back. Any NEW player is going to find out fast which factions are gimped, and they're not even going to think twice about rolling to the "preferred" faction.

Given those trends, I believe the most ETHICAL thing ZoS could do is to make faction change an option, so that the players who have invested in this game the longest don't feel like their toons are fatally gimped without any remedy. I don't care if they put faction change in the Crown Store or as an in-game quest... but it needs to be there!

The usual gamers tendancy to be dramatic. No faction is ever so bad that it makes you "fatally gimped". I will login each day and a completely different faction will own the map. It is different everyday. Go "roll" AD today because they are dominating, great! The next morning you do not have a single keep.

However, implement the faction change and THEN you will see imbalance as people will convert on the slightest discrepancy.

dietlime wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Not possible due to quests conflicting.

Yeah that's not true at all.

It IS true. The leveling for each zone is completely different across zones.

Imagine transferring a VR5 character and then unlocking Cadwell's Gold -- but you already completed all the content and all that is left is the levels 1-50 content.

when i started in ESO at launch i wasnt as concerned with factions as i perhaps should have been.
i didnt have a mass of friends starting the game and deciding on one faction. so i made characters here and there in each faction, class, race to get a feel for it levelling a few levels.

fast forward to today and i have 3x V16 toons of different classes in all 3 factions, each of them i have completed cadwell's silver and gold. (yeah i got into the PVE stuff though im not sure i have the patience to roll another toon).

since the game turned out to be so solo heavy i remained less interested in which faction i was in until of course i came to cyrodiil (in some games PVP is an after thought for me), i took a few months off when the content got a bit stale after craglorn but returned for IC.
thankfully changes to the PVP system allowed me to actually rotate my home campaigns on these wayward characters but i wasnt clear which would be considered the most active for each or every faction. so my sorc won the draw and i spend most of my pvp time in azura's star.
the other 2 are somewhat out in the cold being on lower or unbalanced population servers, though it is better than it was pre IC.
this fact isnt my problem though, its the fact that when you park 3 toons of each faction in limited option servers you cant shift the damn things out of each other's way to change home campaigns.
i get the reason and the concept of staying true to your faction on said server but for a game predominantly solo content as this, not all guilds are more than casual and if you dont join a pvp guild from the server you are on, you can end up in a pve/pvp/trade guild who plays on a pvp server you cant get onto.

obviously making all my toons 1 faction can solve this and i would be prepared to do so, but so could the option of removing a toon from ALL campaigns.
makes no sense that this isnt an option...