Mojmir wrote: »

hes grinding in your way, got it. thats probably why they wont do anything.

There is a difference between manually grinding and introducing a program into the game that doesn't belong there. If he is willing to do this then he is willing to introduce other "helpful" programs also. This is the difference fella. Hacks are cheats.

We followed it or him around for 15 minutes and noticed the same routine occurring over and over. it was very sophisticated but still was not human. When you grind you tend to hang around in the same area for hours. So we had hours of observation observing this character. You couldnt wisper it/him or interact in anyway. I guess you just know after watching for a while.
A friend of mine told me you can look it up in google, but apparently I wont be allowed to post it on here, because i would then get into trouble for helping people to do this. Even though that's the last thing I want to do since i think people who use hacks are cheats in gaming and losers in real life. But he thinks ESO will have to go the way steam did with say counter strike and monitor peoples background programming. I don't understand it and I'm trying to get him on the forums to give his two cents worth.

Qyrk wrote: »

For what its worth, you've already done what you could on your end.

To be fair though, we grind a lot in PC for CP and trust me, we tend to inevitably create a pattern that is the same over and over (albeit a stop here and there).

Another rule of grinding sessions are you make yourself "offline" to prevent being disrupted by messages etc.

Anyways, you've already done your bit really.

Yeah mate I hear ya. But seriously it was not a person. This is the trouble with me not able to say the name of the person and telling everyone where to go and look. Because yes i know you get into a pattern of doing things in a grind. I have leveled up 5 v14s now grinding and 2 more almost. I have a set path and do it as close to the same each time to the perfect amount of xp per minute. This dude was not human. You could kill a zombie say in front of him and he would react as if your not there and continue to use his shards even if you already killed the thing. He would never pull a large mob because that would upset an easy routine. It was able to sense a nearby zombie if you dragged one to it but if you then dragged it away a bit it would continue its initial attack in the same spot. It would only ever move a couple of metres off its path at any time when it sensed a nearby zombie. It would run the same path back and forth even if you run up and down that path killing all the zombies in front of it. I mean i could go on describing more. But yes i do know when someone is not a real person. is this enough info? sorry its not only me either others have who have seen him after a certain amount of time have agreed with me.
We have had no response from Zen either way on our reporting of this guy and this is why I'm getting frustrated even more than the endless bugs and crashes. Hacks are the worst thing for any game and I love this one.

RollDodger wrote: »

its not a bot its MACROS

and macroses are undetectable by ZOS
if you write it in right way


so use it or dont use it

I thought about that but you cant make a macro react to new zombies you drag into its path. (I don't think anyway) and seriously if you check out google and look hard enough you will see a web site from about a year ago with ppl talking about themselves developing this hack (if you call it a hack) and showing video of it in action. Once again Zen rules prevent me from providing a link. We even dragged enough zombies into its path that killed it and it respawned at the wayshrine ran down to its path again. It did this again and in the same manner a second time we did it. Crikey I knew this would happen. Remember how good the bots were in counterstrike , that was ten years or more ago.
I've had enough. Go see for yourself and watch for 20 minutes. I've given enough hints of where. Maybe I'm wrong maybe macros can be so elaborate.

RollDodger wrote: »

EU or US? and where exactly? you can screen the map and post there its not against rulers

The Tava's blessing grind Alikiri Ad faction gold, Na server pc

Nestor wrote: »

Use the BOTS techniques against themselves. Find the pattern they run, then just be in front of it killing the mobs instead. Won't make them go away, but it does make them useful showing you the pattern.

That's a good idea lol

Also, OP you will never hear anything from ZOS about a bot report. They do their "investigating" but will not inform you of anything.
Would be interesting to keep track and see how long this one stays around.

found a bot in my guild

he sold for last 8 days 21k Iron Hide Scraps, and only this items
you really think normal person can farm like this?

people selling gold for real cash... hard problem to stop

still this bots are useless for gold profits comparing to guild store macros

but if you wanna grind CP ye - bots can help
but devs i think already know this site

Kahen40k wrote: »

it can also follow a player and killing what he is killing to make it less suspicious (remember that noob that was following you around stealing your exp and not responding? Yes, it was probably a bot).

When someone latches onto me and follows me, I stop and follow them instead. Sometimes, after they make their move and lead down one passage, I go down a different one. Bots are fully capable of operating independently, they have little reason to backtrack after they are committed to a path.

No matter how sophisticated bots get, they are not AIs. They are nothing more than programs that play preset actions. This will always be something that can be detected, countered, and even exploited. The only way the botter can counter this is to be there watching and guiding, which sort of defeats the purpose of botting.

That is not to say that no one is working on an AI that can play games, but you will not find these types of programs in the hands of your common botter grinding mobs and resource nodes.

Kahen40k wrote: »

As far as it is for a human to notice, the good news is that all the content is purchasable on the bot site, with a very vell explanation of how to install and how it work, so i guess a dev should just buy one and try to stop it, before it spread too much

While few game companies will admit it, I think that many of them do get these programs. I would like to think that they pick up a copy for study so that they can better detect them. Some game companies may even use them for QA testing.

Nestor wrote: »

RollDodger wrote: »

found a bot in my guild

he sold for last 8 days 21k Iron Hide Scraps, and only this items
you really think normal person can farm like this?

That is something entirely different. This is someone who is trying to set a price on an item by manipulating MM Addon. Why do I say this? No one buys Ironhide from me at 1/4 the price this guy is listing them for. I just vendor them. He is basically selling to himself or a couple of guild mates to establish a higher price for the resource.

this is raw materials used to refine Dreugr WAX

and it was in different guilds not only in mine

and nuyers wa different people one of the is the top trader EU hunting for WAX, my friend, and i know its impossible sell to yourself as you said because there was alot buyers

RollDodger wrote: »

this is raw materials used to refine Dreugr WAX

and it was in different guilds not only in mine

and nuyers wa different people one of the is the top trader EU hunting for WAX, my friend, and i know its impossible sell to yourself as you said because there was alot buyers

Missed the Scraps part, those do sell for more. There is a delve in Craglorn that have swarming Imps that you can harvest a ton of Scraps from. Probably about 30 to 40 on each relog just from one room in that delve.

But I have seen some weird transactions in MM that do indicate people are buying and selling to set prices.

RollDodger wrote: »

FOUND HIM!
i havent time to check their behavior but i found few
mby its humans
can some1 check?

2 ppl grindings in The Rift, AD, EU PC
route

While I can't go check myself. I actually doubt you would see two Bots working together. I could be wrong. But try interacting with them.
Two ppl generally join together in a grind for better xp. This is something a Bot doesn't care about, I wouldnt think because it's about the time spent doing whatever it is,and needs to be simpler. Two Bots working together would take a lot of effort to make work,...I think?