Sigh these pc transfers....

Asuryan11 · August 2015

AJ_1988 wrote: »

Also I agree pic transfers shouldn't have been allowed. At least not with cp points. But nothing can be done it is what it is and I've ha my rant on another post about it and now just accept it for what it is.

Please, explain to me why not? Are players that purchase this game 6 months from now like oh say around christmas time going to complain about having to deal with higher levelled, stronger and better geared players with more CP? Would you complain if you bought any MMO game a year or more after release because it is unfair to you? I guess you won't play a game if you don't get it first thing.

leepalmer95 · August 2015

Asuryan11 wrote: »

AJ_1988 wrote: »

Also I agree pic transfers shouldn't have been allowed. At least not with cp points. But nothing can be done it is what it is and I've ha my rant on another post about it and now just accept it for what it is.

Please, explain to me why not? Are players that purchase this game 6 months from now like oh say around christmas time going to complain about having to deal with higher levelled, stronger and better geared players with more CP? Would you complain if you bought any MMO game a year or more after release because it is unfair to you? I guess you won't play a game if you don't get it first thing.

Well for one the pc game was out 1 year before now.

With the way cp work in 6 months when people buy the game i doubt there going to stick around knowing they can't catch up.

It's the fact those pc players will always be 200cp ahead of everyone else, unless someone decided to grind cp for 6 months they maybe they'll catch them.

Currently pc guild control all the good traders because they have the gold.

The pc transfer guilds control the flow of cyrodill when they come on.

If there was some sort of catch up option then sure but there isn't.

Allowing maxed players to transfer their characters to what was practically a new game for console users with a advancement system that makes those they played more or started first have such a huge advantage...?

Tell me why allowing the transfers was a good thing?

LadyDestiny · August 2015

There is more than just pc transfer peeps exploiting. Why is it everytime someone has a bad day in cyrodiil they want to blame pc people. There are plenty of newer players that have figured out these exploits on their own. Go google and watch some you tube......

Dekkameron · August 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Currently pc guild control all the good traders because they have the gold.

The pc transfer guilds control the flow of cyrodill when they come on.

ObsidianMichi · August 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

i tea bagged that potatoe guy simply because i chased him for 10 mins, he deserved it.

Seriously, what is up with you console players and teabagging? Just stop it already

You don't understand i was chasing him for 10 mins, 10! that damn mist form.

Pretty sure i hit him with about 10 curses when i was chasing him!

You do know that they take 75% less damage while in Mist Form, right?

You're mad at them for being a vampire and inconveniencing you, not because of their CP.

Techlisp · August 2015

It was a stupid idea to allow them to bring their pc uber characters over. But was is done is done, and there is no point crying about it now.

Asuryan11 · August 2015

A lot of the people that come to the forums and complain about PC transfers are those that most likely wanted to be the "on-top" owning everyone else. Which if you are the same person that I have played with on Xbox one with a similar name then you do a good job at that. Console players have already surpassed me AND other PC transfers in content completed, champion points and everything else. My CP rank is 185 or so. What is yours? Maybe complaining about CP transfers isn't the problem. How about the CP cap and if they do implement a seasonal cap? I could complain about non-PC transfers with more CP than I have but I don't. It is what it is. PC transfer or not. You complain about it the wrong way. Next we will complain about the gap between no lifers on this game playing 20 hours a day gaining a lot more CP then someone else who plays 4.

markt84 · August 2015

Dekkameron wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

i tea bagged that potatoe guy simply because i chased him for 10 mins, he deserved it.

Seriously, what is up with you console players and teabagging? Just stop it already

If you don't want to respawn and wait for ur buddy to show up to res you, you deserve to get tbagged until ur buddy decides to show his face or you give up and respawn

Psychobunni · August 2015

markt84 wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

i tea bagged that potatoe guy simply because i chased him for 10 mins, he deserved it.

Seriously, what is up with you console players and teabagging? Just stop it already

If you don't want to respawn and wait for ur buddy to show up to res you, you deserve to get tbagged until ur buddy decides to show his face or you give up and respawn

@ZOS_RichLambert when you guys get enough complaints and remove the emote, can it only be from console version?

markt84 · August 2015

Asuryan11 wrote: »

A lot of the people that come to the forums and complain about PC transfers are those that most likely wanted to be the "on-top" owning everyone else. Which if you are the same person that I have played with on Xbox one with a similar name then you do a good job at that. Console players have already surpassed me AND other PC transfers in content completed, champion points and everything else. My CP rank is 185 or so. What is yours? Maybe complaining about CP transfers isn't the problem. How about the CP cap and if they do implement a seasonal cap? I could complain about non-PC transfers with more CP than I have but I don't. It is what it is. PC transfer or not. You complain about it the wrong way. Next we will complain about the gap between no lifers on this game playing 20 hours a day gaining a lot more CP then someone else who plays 4.

I changed my dislike from PC transfer to CPs. CPs is what makes the sorc basically unkillable without 10 dudes on him, not that he played on PC for a year. But I do see the v14s are the guys usually stacking attackA and hitting me with 46k fall damage. I hope everyone sticks with this game and they finally get non-cp campaigns because my break from eso is about to start soon, and I want this game to still be active and fun when I return. Mad max, mgs, madden, fallout 4, halo 5, tomb raiders, gears remake, and Star Wars will need to get played soon. Eso made a mistake by not having something set up to combat PC transfers gap with new console players, it pushed a lot of people away, now the Xmas season is about to start and I'm afraid no enough players will return.

markt84 · August 2015

Psychobunni wrote: »

markt84 wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

i tea bagged that potatoe guy simply because i chased him for 10 mins, he deserved it.

Seriously, what is up with you console players and teabagging? Just stop it already

If you don't want to respawn and wait for ur buddy to show up to res you, you deserve to get tbagged until ur buddy decides to show his face or you give up and respawn

@ZOS_RichLambert when you guys get enough complaints and remove the emote, can it only be from console version?

Remove what emote? They doing to make it impossible to go dark now, so cry babies don't get their feelings hurt? Don't think so

TequilaFire · August 2015

CP doesn't enable glitches, Youtube does.
It is also common practice to stealth in a keep after it flips and dump oil on unsuspecting players later.
You should always watch above your quartermaster.
Good AP!

All is fair in war, lol

zornyan · August 2015

Teabagging is pure childish, anyone that openly admits it is completely *** imo, seriously you feel the need to insult someone you just faced in combat? What is this preschool? Act like a bloody adult. (anyone I'm grouped with in cyrodlil that teabags gets kicked.immediately)

Secondly pc transfers are not the issue, it's no different than buying a game a year after release, you going to go on the warcraft forums and moan you have less skills/levels than someone that's been playing for ten years?

I assume you're the kind of person that likes games like destiny that you completely and reach max level/skills after 20 hours and no matter how many hours you put in you get zero benefits.

Welcome to mmo's either get your head down and start earning CP, or just ya know, play the game for fun?

Either way I've only been playing for a month, I have a full time job, a wife and work on cars in my spare time.

I've got a vr6, and 3 level 30s, I'll probably have 4 VR14s by the end of September judging by current progress, so that's about 300 CP. Which is where the soft cap is anyway.

wraith808 · August 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Gate and keep glitches/exploits are being fixed with the IC update. Anyone can make alts in another faction, it has nothing to do with PC players. And what do glitches and alts have to do with Champion Points?

It's the fact they allowed people with max characters with 200+ cp each, with knowledge of exploits + glitches to transfer all of this onto console so us new players get absolutely wrecked by them.

I just found out apparently you can glitch into chalmen as i turned round and 7-10 vet 14's just rekt me.

You don't know that people got to VR14 on consoles with 200CP in a few weeks, right? Transfers aren't the problem.

markt84 · August 2015

zornyan wrote: »

Teabagging is pure childish, anyone that openly admits it is completely *** imo, seriously you feel the need to insult someone you just faced in combat? What is this preschool? Act like a bloody adult. (anyone I'm grouped with in cyrodlil that teabags gets kicked.immediately)

Secondly pc transfers are not the issue, it's no different than buying a game a year after release, you going to go on the warcraft forums and moan you have less skills/levels than someone that's been playing for ten years?

I assume you're the kind of person that likes games like destiny that you completely and reach max level/skills after 20 hours and no matter how many hours you put in you get zero benefits.

Welcome to mmo's either get your head down and start earning CP, or just ya know, play the game for fun?

Either way I've only been playing for a month, I have a full time job, a wife and work on cars in my spare time.

I've got a vr6, and 3 level 30s, I'll probably have 4 VR14s by the end of September judging by current progress, so that's about 300 CP. Which is where the soft cap is anyway.

You tbagged kids in preschool? And you call me the ***. Just respawn if it bothers you so much, or don't die. I mean if you to wait 15 mins for the Zerg can pass, so ur buddy that was too scared to fight can res you, so you guys can continue ganking.....that's cool, because I'll wait with you while ur buddy and you watch me Tbag you until he either decides to fight me or you decide to respawn

Techlisp · August 2015

T-bagging is a bit stupid when you have so many other emotes you can use. This isn't Call of Duty or Battlefield.

And on the other side of the coin, if you get so upset that an avatar in a game is going up and down on you. Then you probably have some sort of emotional issues you may need to get sorted.

lolzbuckets · August 2015

Let me just save you guys some heartache.

You're arguing with the guy responsible for this absolute gem of a thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/208484/lets-have-an-offical-nerf-nb-thread

If you're mad at him, stop it. Go get some popcorn and enjoy the show. It's better for your heart.

leepalmer95 · August 2015

lolzbuckets wrote: »

Let me just save you guys some heartache.

You're arguing with the guy responsible for this absolute gem of a thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/208484/lets-have-an-offical-nerf-nb-thread

If you're mad at him, stop it. Go get some popcorn and enjoy the show. It's better for your heart.

You seem like a fan, and as always i make a topic with an issue for people to talk about,

and as always you decide not to read it and instead just start spamming it, don't you have anything better to do or is this how you farm posts?

wraith808 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

Gate and keep glitches/exploits are being fixed with the IC update. Anyone can make alts in another faction, it has nothing to do with PC players. And what do glitches and alts have to do with Champion Points?

It's the fact they allowed people with max characters with 200+ cp each, with knowledge of exploits + glitches to transfer all of this onto console so us new players get absolutely wrecked by them.

I just found out apparently you can glitch into chalmen as i turned round and 7-10 vet 14's just rekt me.

You don't know that people got to VR14 on consoles with 200CP in a few weeks, right? Transfers aren't the problem.

I have a v14 and a v5 and i have 100 cp, doubt someone on console has 200 cp already, unless they have literally farmed since release.

Even then the average player on pc will always have more cp than the average player on console.

gjmgamesub17_ESO · August 2015

I love how people are saying pc transfers still have the advantage lol.

I'm not a transfer and I'm vr14 with 100 CP. And I'm lazy compared to my guildies and friends, a couple have 2 vr14 characters and almost 200 CP now as well. And that's not really even out of the ordinary.

The pc transfer excuse for your lack of skill is no longer valid.

J2JMC · August 2015

Asuryan11 wrote: »

AJ_1988 wrote: »

Also I agree pic transfers shouldn't have been allowed. At least not with cp points. But nothing can be done it is what it is and I've ha my rant on another post about it and now just accept it for what it is.

Please, explain to me why not? Are players that purchase this game 6 months from now like oh say around christmas time going to complain about having to deal with higher levelled, stronger and better geared players with more CP? Would you complain if you bought any MMO game a year or more after release because it is unfair to you? I guess you won't play a game if you don't get it first thing.

The same reason ZOS didn't allow beta characters to be transferred to live servers.

markt84 · August 2015

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

I love how people are saying pc transfers still have the advantage lol.

I'm not a transfer and I'm vr14 with 100 CP. And I'm lazy compared to my guildies and friends, a couple have 2 vr14 characters and almost 200 CP now as well. And that's not really even out of the ordinary.

The pc transfer excuse for your lack of skill is no longer valid.

Good point because a lot of the PC transfers that came over have 1000+, but you have 200 now so it's all good. And think it is out of the ordinary to only have 100 at v14, you should have way more, I got around 50 now at v5

leepalmer95 · August 2015

markt84 wrote: »

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

I love how people are saying pc transfers still have the advantage lol.

I'm not a transfer and I'm vr14 with 100 CP. And I'm lazy compared to my guildies and friends, a couple have 2 vr14 characters and almost 200 CP now as well. And that's not really even out of the ordinary.

The pc transfer excuse for your lack of skill is no longer valid.

Good point because a lot of the PC transfers that came over have 1000+, but you have 200 now so it's all good. And think it is out of the ordinary to only have 100 at v14, you should have way more, I got around 50 now at v5

It depending on how sow you level, if you entlightened its 10 cps per vet lvl, if your not enlightened its 2.5 cps per vet lvl, so people who grind out level and get 2-3 vet lvl's a day can easily bet v14 with about 50.

markt84 · August 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

markt84 wrote: »

gjmgamesub17_ESO wrote: »

I love how people are saying pc transfers still have the advantage lol.

I'm not a transfer and I'm vr14 with 100 CP. And I'm lazy compared to my guildies and friends, a couple have 2 vr14 characters and almost 200 CP now as well. And that's not really even out of the ordinary.

The pc transfer excuse for your lack of skill is no longer valid.

Good point because a lot of the PC transfers that came over have 1000+, but you have 200 now so it's all good. And think it is out of the ordinary to only have 100 at v14, you should have way more, I got around 50 now at v5

It depending on how sow you level, if you entlightened its 10 cps per vet lvl, if your not enlightened its 2.5 cps per vet lvl, so people who grind out level and get 2-3 vet lvl's a day can easily bet v14 with about 50.

Got it, I'm enlightened

Waffennacht · August 2015

I read all posts.

I am unhappy with the transfers. Why? Because this is my first MMO (I do not own a computer) and I really wanted that experience of being on the first wave of players.

You know where everyone wants to do a dungeon because it hasn't been done before, where guilds have large participation throughout all levels because not everyone is V14. Where you can see a Vet 1 and be impressed he got there so quickly.

I missed all of that, most guild leaders (of large guilds actually worth being apart of) are PC transfers. Crafting (which I love) will not make me any value, as there are crafters making things for people day one. Ill be a day late and a dollar short.

But it doesn't matter, especially now that so much time has passed.

Im really hoping some new people come in around Christmas. I really want to make someone's day with a handcrafted armor peice.

starkerealm · August 2015

Sithisvoid wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Sithisvoid wrote: »

I do run into some really tough obvious pc transfers but if anything I have to thank them for making me a better player. I mean if they weren't kicking my butt how would I learn? lol

You can tell when you hit a pc transfer when they decide to 10k steel tornado you to death... xD

Could just be a high crit chance and high weapon damage. I'm a very one shotty archer on my nightblade. He can't do much upfront sustained dps I should have rolled redgaurd or Imperial but with potions and buffs like rally and relentless focus, as well as camouflaged hunter the damage gets silly fast.

@Sithisvoid I like how Lee's argument here is basically that console players are literally too stupid or incompetent to make a pure stamina build. Of course, I also think of Twin Peaks every time I look at his username. So, you know, I might have some bias here.

EDIT: And yes, you can get your weap crit to around 60% fairly easily (though it does take a CR of 90). So, critting on three out of five strikes for around 10k each is a real possibility.

markt84 · August 2015

Waffennacht wrote: »

I read all posts.

I am unhappy with the transfers. Why? Because this is my first MMO (I do not own a computer) and I really wanted that experience of being on the first wave of players.

You know where everyone wants to do a dungeon because it hasn't been done before, where guilds have large participation throughout all levels because not everyone is V14. Where you can see a Vet 1 and be impressed he got there so quickly.

I missed all of that, most guild leaders (of large guilds actually worth being apart of) are PC transfers. Crafting (which I love) will not make me any value, as there are crafters making things for people day one. Ill be a day late and a dollar short.

But it doesn't matter, especially now that so much time has passed.

Im really hoping some new people come in around Christmas. I really want to make someone's day with a handcrafted armor peice.

U can make my day by crafting some v6 set pieces, having trouble finding cooling looking helmets to make me want to change my necromancer helmet. I wanna run 3-4 light sets that boost my magic, and 3-4 to boost my I don't know resistance and damage. Been running pants, gloves, and helmet necro and chest, belt, and shoulder construction or something. I need a new set up, been wearing the same set gear since v1......so tired of it. X1 na by the way, you would make my day with some new gear

starkerealm · August 2015

markt84 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I read all posts.

I am unhappy with the transfers. Why? Because this is my first MMO (I do not own a computer) and I really wanted that experience of being on the first wave of players.

You know where everyone wants to do a dungeon because it hasn't been done before, where guilds have large participation throughout all levels because not everyone is V14. Where you can see a Vet 1 and be impressed he got there so quickly.

I missed all of that, most guild leaders (of large guilds actually worth being apart of) are PC transfers. Crafting (which I love) will not make me any value, as there are crafters making things for people day one. Ill be a day late and a dollar short.

But it doesn't matter, especially now that so much time has passed.

Im really hoping some new people come in around Christmas. I really want to make someone's day with a handcrafted armor peice.

U can make my day by crafting some v6 set pieces, having trouble finding cooling looking helmets to make me want to change my necromancer helmet. I wanna run 3-4 light sets that boost my magic, and 3-4 to boost my I don't know resistance and damage. Been running pants, gloves, and helmet necro and chest, belt, and shoulder construction or something. I need a new set up, been wearing the same set gear since v1......so tired of it. X1 na by the way, you would make my day with some new gear

Ask for Seducer 5, Bulwark 3. I mean, Bulwark isn't really an optimal pick, but it will give you additional armor if you really want it.

leepalmer95 · August 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

markt84 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I read all posts.

I am unhappy with the transfers. Why? Because this is my first MMO (I do not own a computer) and I really wanted that experience of being on the first wave of players.

You know where everyone wants to do a dungeon because it hasn't been done before, where guilds have large participation throughout all levels because not everyone is V14. Where you can see a Vet 1 and be impressed he got there so quickly.

I missed all of that, most guild leaders (of large guilds actually worth being apart of) are PC transfers. Crafting (which I love) will not make me any value, as there are crafters making things for people day one. Ill be a day late and a dollar short.

But it doesn't matter, especially now that so much time has passed.

Im really hoping some new people come in around Christmas. I really want to make someone's day with a handcrafted armor peice.

U can make my day by crafting some v6 set pieces, having trouble finding cooling looking helmets to make me want to change my necromancer helmet. I wanna run 3-4 light sets that boost my magic, and 3-4 to boost my I don't know resistance and damage. Been running pants, gloves, and helmet necro and chest, belt, and shoulder construction or something. I need a new set up, been wearing the same set gear since v1......so tired of it. X1 na by the way, you would make my day with some new gear

Ask for Seducer 5, Bulwark 3. I mean, Bulwark isn't really an optimal pick, but it will give you additional armor if you really want it.

wouldn't a 5 magus, 2-3 torugs pact be better?

leepalmer95 · August 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

Sithisvoid wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Sithisvoid wrote: »

I do run into some really tough obvious pc transfers but if anything I have to thank them for making me a better player. I mean if they weren't kicking my butt how would I learn? lol

You can tell when you hit a pc transfer when they decide to 10k steel tornado you to death... xD

Could just be a high crit chance and high weapon damage. I'm a very one shotty archer on my nightblade. He can't do much upfront sustained dps I should have rolled redgaurd or Imperial but with potions and buffs like rally and relentless focus, as well as camouflaged hunter the damage gets silly fast.

@Sithisvoid I like how Lee's argument here is basically that console players are literally too stupid or incompetent to make a pure stamina build. Of course, I also think of Twin Peaks every time I look at his username. So, you know, I might have some bias here.

EDIT: And yes, you can get your weap crit to around 60% fairly easily (though it does take a CR of 90). So, critting on three out of five strikes for around 10k each is a real possibility.

lol? not idea how you got that idea, it's more along the lines of pc xfers having fully maxed stamina builds with the highest level gear when people were lvl 10. That on top of that is a few hundred cp's which adds 25% stamina/hp/magicka, allowed to to infinitely sustain themselves with the cp and increase their dmg by 25%~.

But sure a new console player making a max stamina build would basically be the same (in spirit at least)also people stack weapon dmg, not stamina as it's a lot easier and more efficient to stack weapon dmg.. but hey your the 5 star pc elitist.

starkerealm · August 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

markt84 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

I read all posts.

I am unhappy with the transfers. Why? Because this is my first MMO (I do not own a computer) and I really wanted that experience of being on the first wave of players.

You know where everyone wants to do a dungeon because it hasn't been done before, where guilds have large participation throughout all levels because not everyone is V14. Where you can see a Vet 1 and be impressed he got there so quickly.

I missed all of that, most guild leaders (of large guilds actually worth being apart of) are PC transfers. Crafting (which I love) will not make me any value, as there are crafters making things for people day one. Ill be a day late and a dollar short.

But it doesn't matter, especially now that so much time has passed.

Im really hoping some new people come in around Christmas. I really want to make someone's day with a handcrafted armor peice.

U can make my day by crafting some v6 set pieces, having trouble finding cooling looking helmets to make me want to change my necromancer helmet. I wanna run 3-4 light sets that boost my magic, and 3-4 to boost my I don't know resistance and damage. Been running pants, gloves, and helmet necro and chest, belt, and shoulder construction or something. I need a new set up, been wearing the same set gear since v1......so tired of it. X1 na by the way, you would make my day with some new gear

Ask for Seducer 5, Bulwark 3. I mean, Bulwark isn't really an optimal pick, but it will give you additional armor if you really want it.

wouldn't a 5 magus, 2-3 torugs pact be better?

Magnus you're gambling on getting a discount. Seducer you will get one all the time. I mean, if you're doing resto, Eyes of Mara might actually be better, but seducer's a good entry level set. There's long discussions crunching the numbers, but of the two, Seducer is safer than Magnus.

Willows might be another option. I don't have a lot of experience with it, but that regen up could help.

Like I said, Bulwark isn't optimal, but if you want more physical resist, it'll give you an armor up in the 2pc bonus, (and I think health on the 3pc, but I'd need to check.)

Torug's is spell damage and health up on the 3pc. So, while that would help a little with durability, it's not what you were actually asking for.