The moment it gets laggy for me, I get the hell out of the area. If the campaign is still lagging I switch campaigns.

If *that* campaign is still lagging (This has happened many times) I just say screw it and log off or go grind some carebear stuff. If everyone did the same there wouldn't be lag.

People need to start playing in smaller groups, and when they see a lot of players around find better objectives. Yeah I realize emp dethrones/crownings are going to be a lagfest but 95% of the time these aren't the source of lag. People just have to start acting with what is in the best interest to the game and not themselves.

Minno wrote: »

Because it never stopped.

Anything from DC is purely reactionary while trying to keep small group play a priority. But sadly you need to zerg to create the pockets of areas small play can be achieved. And vice versa, you need the small groups to hit areas the bigger zergs will be seen early.

DC for months tried to get the EP and AD guilds to seen the issues with this play. Nothing but "learn the mechanics" type comments and "get more players" for anti-zerg/nightcap topics.

Then there was the issue of AD steamrolling Thornblade, which despite efforts from Manny to let DC have 3 home keeps to start momentum, still lead to comments about DC needs to learn to gather more players and play better. All the DC guilds under Azura Star was the result (assuming Eygpt's undertaking). Formation of CN was another result. Understanding which skills work under lag and which don't was another. And the sad realization tin order to combat meteor, one will eventual have to use it when it is dropped by opposition during lag.

You don't need to zerg to beat the zerg. You beat the zerg by spreading out across the map and hitting multiple areas so they are forced to make choices on which keeps to lose/save. Nor do you need to spam meteors when people spam them on you.

Sorry that's just lazy. There is no excuse for zerging and meteor spam. Zero. Just because other factions do it doesn't mean that you, not actually you, but DC should resort to the same tactics. It ruins the PvP environment even further.

AD and EP tried within but people don't listen. Some of us who switched over, and even native DC people are trying to tell the people who zerg and meteor spam that you don't need to do this to win or be effective, and we get the same response/answers. Things really don't change it's just a different insignia and color on the flag.

I know, I was with you for a short time on Thornblade before I left the guild. FWIW we did need more numbers on DC, and we needed cooperation from those of DC who were on Thornblade which wasn't exactly smooth sailing as I remember there was drama with the native Thornblade DC.

Daniel wants DC to win, and I'm not taking that away from him. It's the way he has/does go about that I have issue with. In VE we don't zerg around with 50+ nor do we spam meteor and we have great success night in and night out.

FENGRUSH wrote: »

DC needs to bring people to haderus to crown The Lord FENGRUSH

I don't like this idea.
Dc leaves Azura's to crown Fengrush on Had....Meth is emp on Azura's. Fengrush is emp on Had.
Time to uninstall...

Winnamine wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

DC needs to bring people to haderus to crown The Lord FENGRUSH

I don't like this idea.
Dc leaves Azura's to crown Fengrush on Had....Meth is emp on Azura's. Fengrush is emp on Had.
Time to uninstall...

This is now a nerf sorc thread.

Winnamine wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

DC needs to bring people to haderus to crown The Lord FENGRUSH

I don't like this idea.
Dc leaves Azura's to crown Fengrush on Had....Meth is emp on Azura's. Fengrush is emp on Had.
Time to uninstall...

Oh come on stam sorc emp wouldnt be nearly as vicious as the highly optimized det/breaker of magicka sorc!

Minno wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

DC needs to bring people to haderus to crown The Lord FENGRUSH

Name the time and day, I'll ride alongside that emp run!

Every day this campaign! Anytime!

Flawlless wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

It's the way he has/does go about that I have issue with. In VE we don't zerg around with 50+ nor do we spam meteor and we have great success night in and night out.

Just because NPK doesn't run in the same ts as VE doesn't mean you aren't zerging with 50. When you don't make any effort to get away from them people will have the same opinion about your guild. I don't respect the "win at all costs" strategy. Then you tbag and act like youre so good cause you can wipe 10 Nexus or 10 Havoc with 50 people. *slow clap*

Npk still pvps? Lol

FENGRUSH wrote: »

DC needs to bring people to haderus to crown The Lord FENGRUSH

I'll have to agree with this statement! This will make our 3 man wrecking crew even stronger! Unfortunately I won't be on until 8pm central time tonight to help out.

Winnamine wrote: »

I don't like this idea.
Dc leaves Azura's to crown Fengrush on Had....Meth is emp on Azura's. Fengrush is emp on Had.
Time to uninstall...

Guess that means you'll just have to play your DC templar then!

Takllin wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Winnamine wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

DC needs to bring people to haderus to crown The Lord FENGRUSH

I don't like this idea.
Dc leaves Azura's to crown Fengrush on Had....Meth is emp on Azura's. Fengrush is emp on Had.
Time to uninstall...

This is now a nerf sorc thread.

Nerf stam sorc*

Cmon Jules get with the program...

Listen. 54k dawnbreakers say otherwise.

Flawlless wrote: »

Takllin wrote: »

It's the way he has/does go about that I have issue with. In VE we don't zerg around with 50+ nor do we spam meteor and we have great success night in and night out.

Just because NPK doesn't run in the same ts as VE doesn't mean you aren't zerging with 50. When you don't make any effort to get away from them people will have the same opinion about your guild. I don't respect the "win at all costs" strategy. Then you tbag and act like youre so good cause you can wipe 10 Nexus or 10 Havoc with 50 people. *slow clap*

Wait who are you? You have no idea what your talking about, and quite frankly I don't think anyone cares what you or anyone else thinks. There are a lot of salty EP players about Vehemence leaving to even out the competition in PvP, and it's sad and pathetic how they are acting towards those who rerolled.

If DC brings lots of numbers to where we are, Bulb tends to leave fairly quick. Hence what happened at Arrius the other day when we dethroned Meth. We went to Arrius to try and get the scroll. Tons of DC came up behind us following our coat tails. We then left Arrius and took BRK to dethrone Meth while the rest of the DC were wiped at Arrius.

We don't have a win at all costs strategy. Teabagging is a sign of respect, get over yourself. If I had a dime for every time we got teabagged I'd be a millionaire. The salt is real.

Just last night we went to the Mine at Farragut. Chuck Norris comes running up after we've been there maybe 15-20 minutes. We saw them coming and we left because we don't like running next to big groups of other DC.

Obvi my toon name is different but why spoil the mystery? Likewise I have no idea who you are either. Just reporting what I see, anytime VE shows Chuck Norris guild also shows up, then we get zerged. Hey, maybe you're trying to get away from them but you're not doing a very good job of it.

Flawlless wrote: »

Obvi my toon name is different but why spoil the mystery? Likewise I have no idea who you are either. Just reporting what I see, anytime VE shows Chuck Norris guild also shows up, then we get zerged. Hey, maybe you're trying to get away from them but you're not doing a very good job of it.

So you correlate VE as being zergy because Chuck Norris happens to show up somewhere after VE initiates a response from AD/EP? I'm about to go all white girl (channeling my inner Jules, Steve, and Bulbybear) .......I DON'T EVEN. I CAN'T EVEN. I WON'T EVEN.

Flawlless wrote: »

Obvi my toon name is different but why spoil the mystery? Likewise I have no idea who you are either. Just reporting what I see, anytime VE shows Chuck Norris guild also shows up, then we get zerged. Hey, maybe you're trying to get away from them but you're not doing a very good job of it.

This happens to all organized guilds honestly. As I'm sure Nexus, Havoc, & Deci would affirm, there are times when your objective is suddenly flooded with pug aggro. Sometimes you leave, sometimes you don't. Yes it can absolutely be a bit of buzzkill when you're hoping for a good, competitive GvG and half your faction rides in behind you. But it's just the nature of the game. It happens on all sides.

Huckdabuck wrote: »

So you correlate VE as being zergy because Chuck Norris happens to show up somewhere after VE initiates a response from AD/EP? I'm about to go all white girl (channeling my inner Jules, Steve, and Bulbybear) .......I DON'T EVEN. I CAN'T EVEN. I WON'T EVEN.

Tex goin zero ta ghetto!!
/snapsnapsnap

Lol I wouldn't know but yeah yeah tbh we've all zerged that's the way it goes but to tbag and talk s*** afterwards is why I'm salty. I don't tbag after a win to show respect, I /bow

Ummm, so back to the original post in this thread, spamming meteor and getting all zergy-zerg to lag the server does not sound like a good strategy. Lag is the reason we lose battles, not win them.

Make good life choices.