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Strongest PVP class overall

  • Sil
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    The nirn-coward-class... extra made for all PVE who want to do PvP by ZENIMAXX (tm).
    * auch wenn ich mich aufrege, rege ich mich nicht auf*
  • Armitas
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    Sorcerer
    I remember Mr Wrobel had a girl working under him, Maria Aliprando, she worked on the CP and combat system and I think she said something about developing tanking classess. She left ZOS for another gig...was she ever replaced cause that would explain a lot? There has to be a good explanation for why this poll is exactly the same as it was like 6 months ago.
    Edited by Armitas on August 20, 2015 12:52PM
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • Maulkin
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    On live it's a toss-up between NB and Sorc at the moment and the poll so far reflects that. It's hard to pick

    Both mobile, both bursty. Sorc is more survivable with shields and bolt, while NB certainly has better burst damage and CC. If it wasn't for the way Armor and Spell pen works on 1.6 (armor gets completely penetrated, while spell res can be stacked to the roof) then I'd say Sorc.

    DKs and Temps are fairly good stamina builds too, but offer less group utility then NBs. Whereas as Magicka builds they are either heal-bots or perma-blockers, which is boring at best.
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Templar
    On live it's a toss-up between NB and Sorc at the moment and the poll so far reflects that. It's hard to pick

    Both mobile, both bursty. Sorc is more survivable with shields and bolt, while NB certainly has better burst damage and CC. If it wasn't for the way Armor and Spell pen works on 1.6 (armor gets completely penetrated, while spell res can be stacked to the roof) then I'd say Sorc.

    DKs and Temps are fairly good stamina builds too, but offer less group utility then NBs. Whereas as Magicka builds they are either heal-bots or perma-blockers, which is boring at best.

    You can DPS your butt off with a magicka Templars. 1 bar for damage and one for healing is easily doable. My VR5 has a base damage above 10k for radiant oppression. With inner light and entropy, along with the bonus upgrades native to the spell I can hit some people for about 50k. Go ahead and find me another non ultimate that gets near those figures. Furthurmore I can still heal my rump off at the same time with breath of life.

    Up until recently I was in full heavy armor and I was worried that moving to light would leave me dead way too often. Instead I'm melting everything. Been killing VR14s like they are level 20s.
  • Mighty_oakk
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    Templar
    BuggeX wrote: »
    People saying Templar... Have you ever faced a Templar, hahaha they die so quickly!

    I have seen a few templars more tanky than DK, there was a player who was lvl42 in non veteran PvP was able to block all damage from enemy players and spawn Meteor over and over again.

    a lvl 42 with meteor is impossible.

    nah its not, if you collecd all book across your ally/cyro/dungeons and complet the mageguild quest line you can have Meteor on lvl 41

    Actually no you cant get it unti lvl 45. You get 5 rep per book and 20 per set. Add it up.
  • FilthyMudcrabs
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    Nightblade
    If by superior you mean cheap, NB gets my vote.
    Saw a mudcrab the other day. Dreadful creatures.
  • omfgitsbatman
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    Dragonknight
    Question is really vague:
    Which class is the best at ganking? Nightblades

    Which class is hardest to kill one on one? Sorcerer

    Which class is the most survivable when being beaten on by 3+? DK

    Which class is the best in a zerg? Templar
    He's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.

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  • jkemmery
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    Nightblade
    On live it's a toss-up between NB and Sorc at the moment and the poll so far reflects that. It's hard to pick

    Both mobile, both bursty. Sorc is more survivable with shields and bolt, while NB certainly has better burst damage and CC. If it wasn't for the way Armor and Spell pen works on 1.6 (armor gets completely penetrated, while spell res can be stacked to the roof) then I'd say Sorc.

    DKs and Temps are fairly good stamina builds too, but offer less group utility then NBs. Whereas as Magicka builds they are either heal-bots or perma-blockers, which is boring at best.

    You can DPS your butt off with a magicka Templars. 1 bar for damage and one for healing is easily doable. My VR5 has a base damage above 10k for radiant oppression. With inner light and entropy, along with the bonus upgrades native to the spell I can hit some people for about 50k. Go ahead and find me another non ultimate that gets near those figures. Furthurmore I can still heal my rump off at the same time with breath of life.

    Up until recently I was in full heavy armor and I was worried that moving to light would leave me dead way too often. Instead I'm melting everything. Been killing VR14s like they are level 20s.

    See, you can't say that, or the Templar QQers will come out force and refute everything you say by asking you for proof, etc ..., calling you a liar, etc ... etc ...

    I know, I've been there. Templar is an awesome class, yet there is a cadre of Templar whiners on this board that want to QQ and QQ until Templar is massively OP.
  • jkemmery
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    Question is really vague:
    Which class is the best at ganking? Nightblades

    Which class is hardest to kill one on one? Sorcerer

    Which class is the most survivable when being beaten on by 3+? DK

    Which class is the best in a zerg? Templar

    OK, but Cyrodiil and the game are specifically set up to make ganking the most damaging, easiest and profitable way to play.

    Sorc is probably the hardest one on one kill due to their ability to bold away, then come back at you once they have rebuild their magica back up, yeah, I'll grant you that.

    Any class can put on heavy armor and hold block, which is what makes those DKs so survivable, so it's not really a DK thing at all. Well, unless you add the Corrosive Armor ultimate, but unfortunately lots of guilds require DKs to run Leap or Standard. Still, unless you get help, 2 or 3 on you will eventually burn you down, so ... all it is is that you take a little longer before you are riding back to the battle, unless you get help.

    All zergs need healers, and ZOS have seen fit to reward healing in PVP with massive AP.
  • Troneon
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    Nightblade
    NB SORC OP
    PC EU AD
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  • QuebraRegra
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    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.
  • jkemmery
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    Nightblade
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.
  • QuebraRegra
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    Dragonknight
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

  • jkemmery
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    Nightblade
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.
  • QuebraRegra
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    Dragonknight
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.

    Sorta facts...

    Any exploit build with any sense has a much better chance of surviving a group encounter... FACT

    NB gankers who stay out of large conflicts, or stay on the periphery and "horse snipe" lone players will have good KD (does KD really matter?)... FACT

    Some can do what others cannot by exploit, CP, macros, and addons.... FACT (you confirm you do this in your own threads tsk, tsk.)

    This is fun, let's do this all day.



    Edited by QuebraRegra on August 20, 2015 6:10PM
  • jkemmery
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    Nightblade
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.

    Sorta facts...

    Any exploit build with any sense has a much better chance of surviving a group encounter... FACT

    NB gankers who stay out of large conflicts, or stay on the periphery and "horse snipe" lone players will have good KD (does KD really matter?)... FACT

    Some can do what others cannot by exploit, CP, macros, and addons.... FACT (you confirm you do this in your own threads tsk, tsk.)

    This is fun, let's do this all day.



    Excuse me, but what is it exactly that you feel I am confirming in my own threads?

    This has gotten off point. My point is that NBs are the most OP class in the game. NBs rack up kills, gain AP and exp faster, on average, than any other class. Nothing you have said refutes that. Of course a V1 NB is going to struggle in PVP, just like any V1. Of course some builds are better than others, no question about that. Is being a NB the ticket to easy PVP and godlike abilities? No, it's not. But NBs account for more kills than any other class, and you can't deny that. Kills bring AP, that is a fact. No other class is feared as much as NBs, and I don't think you can deny that. Every time I kill one, I smile :)
  • olsborg
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    Nightblade
    The burst of the nb, its even too bursty on PTS now that zos tried to bring down burst....

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    PvP only
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Not gonna vote, since I believe all four have the potential to be strong in pvp. It honestly boils down to player, their skill bar selection and the gear they are using. And yes, to an extent CP selection.
  • reften
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    Dragonknight
    Here we go again. You guys keep getting ganked by NBs and think they're the best. If you think that all PVP is is 1 on 1 ganking, then sure, NBs are probably the best.

    DKs hands down win battles.
    Reften
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  • Armitas
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    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Well, it might be because it's not the strongest class.
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • jkemmery
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    Nightblade
    reften wrote: »
    Here we go again. You guys keep getting ganked by NBs and think they're the best. If you think that all PVP is is 1 on 1 ganking, then sure, NBs are probably the best.

    DKs hands down win battles.

    Says the guy who's signature line shows he plays a NB.

    The burst damage of NBs make the indispensable in battles. If your group isn't loaded with them, you won't win against one who's is.
  • QuebraRegra
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    Dragonknight
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.

    Sorta facts...

    Any exploit build with any sense has a much better chance of surviving a group encounter... FACT

    NB gankers who stay out of large conflicts, or stay on the periphery and "horse snipe" lone players will have good KD (does KD really matter?)... FACT

    Some can do what others cannot by exploit, CP, macros, and addons.... FACT (you confirm you do this in your own threads tsk, tsk.)

    This is fun, let's do this all day.



    Excuse me, but what is it exactly that you feel I am confirming in my own threads?

    This has gotten off point. My point is that NBs are the most OP class in the game. NBs rack up kills, gain AP and exp faster, on average, than any other class. Nothing you have said refutes that. Of course a V1 NB is going to struggle in PVP, just like any V1. Of course some builds are better than others, no question about that. Is being a NB the ticket to easy PVP and godlike abilities? No, it's not. But NBs account for more kills than any other class, and you can't deny that. Kills bring AP, that is a fact. No other class is feared as much as NBs, and I don't think you can deny that. Every time I kill one, I smile :)

    That's funny, I feel the same way about DKs. What's the proof that NBs get more kills than any other class? Not when I've been killed, that's for sure. I luv it when I get the NB kills from the bounty board, easy kills. Maybe more people play with NB? I don't have any stats to prove it either way.

    I'm not picking on you, you have yer own perspective which is valid to you. I'm thinking a bigger sample size is in order? You use MACROS and add-ons, therefore you have an advantage over others who don't use them. "Some can do what others cannot"... you forgot to mention because of CPs, addons, and macros.

  • QuebraRegra
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    Dragonknight
    jkemmery wrote: »
    reften wrote: »
    Here we go again. You guys keep getting ganked by NBs and think they're the best. If you think that all PVP is is 1 on 1 ganking, then sure, NBs are probably the best.

    DKs hands down win battles.

    Says the guy who's signature line shows he plays a NB.

    The burst damage of NBs make the indispensable in battles. If your group isn't loaded with them, you won't win against one who's is.

    But the burst damage only applies to the STAMINA based NB currently. The MAGICKA NB don't have a significant burst. I also agree the burst is necessary to get through the true OP shield stackers... Without the burst or zerg they are immortal.

    Wait, I'm confused, who's OP again?

  • mrdankles
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    Dragonknight
    DK heals and jump is just *** and OP. Sorc I think is one of the weakest, little to no heals at all, plus being a vampire with a bugged out health regen even when specced into it, broken? Most things are..
  • mrdankles
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    Dragonknight
    Plus we need more skill bars, screw weapon swapping. Let us bind whatever skills we want so we have an arsenal.
  • leepalmer95
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    Nightblade
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.

    Sorta facts...

    Any exploit build with any sense has a much better chance of surviving a group encounter... FACT

    NB gankers who stay out of large conflicts, or stay on the periphery and "horse snipe" lone players will have good KD (does KD really matter?)... FACT

    Some can do what others cannot by exploit, CP, macros, and addons.... FACT (you confirm you do this in your own threads tsk, tsk.)

    This is fun, let's do this all day.



    Excuse me, but what is it exactly that you feel I am confirming in my own threads?

    This has gotten off point. My point is that NBs are the most OP class in the game. NBs rack up kills, gain AP and exp faster, on average, than any other class. Nothing you have said refutes that. Of course a V1 NB is going to struggle in PVP, just like any V1. Of course some builds are better than others, no question about that. Is being a NB the ticket to easy PVP and godlike abilities? No, it's not. But NBs account for more kills than any other class, and you can't deny that. Kills bring AP, that is a fact. No other class is feared as much as NBs, and I don't think you can deny that. Every time I kill one, I smile :)

    Don't say nb's all the nb defenders will appear and spam you with 'were glass' or 'cloak is useless', or my favourite sorc have shields. They won't have any actual valid reasons why nb's aren't Op they'll just say lol and l2p..
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • jkemmery
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    Nightblade
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    jkemmery wrote: »
    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.

    Sorta facts...

    Any exploit build with any sense has a much better chance of surviving a group encounter... FACT

    NB gankers who stay out of large conflicts, or stay on the periphery and "horse snipe" lone players will have good KD (does KD really matter?)... FACT

    Some can do what others cannot by exploit, CP, macros, and addons.... FACT (you confirm you do this in your own threads tsk, tsk.)

    This is fun, let's do this all day.



    Excuse me, but what is it exactly that you feel I am confirming in my own threads?

    This has gotten off point. My point is that NBs are the most OP class in the game. NBs rack up kills, gain AP and exp faster, on average, than any other class. Nothing you have said refutes that. Of course a V1 NB is going to struggle in PVP, just like any V1. Of course some builds are better than others, no question about that. Is being a NB the ticket to easy PVP and godlike abilities? No, it's not. But NBs account for more kills than any other class, and you can't deny that. Kills bring AP, that is a fact. No other class is feared as much as NBs, and I don't think you can deny that. Every time I kill one, I smile :)

    That's funny, I feel the same way about DKs. What's the proof that NBs get more kills than any other class? Not when I've been killed, that's for sure. I luv it when I get the NB kills from the bounty board, easy kills. Maybe more people play with NB? I don't have any stats to prove it either way.

    I'm not picking on you, you have yer own perspective which is valid to you. I'm thinking a bigger sample size is in order? You use MACROS and add-ons, therefore you have an advantage over others who don't use them. "Some can do what others cannot"... you forgot to mention because of CPs, addons, and macros.

    I do NOT use Macros for combat. The only macros I use are the Wykkyd outfitter macros. I use lots of add-ons, none of which give my an advantage in combat. I'm not sure how you got the impression that I used macros, but that is a false accusation and I don't appreciate it.
  • Armitas
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    mrdankles wrote: »
    DK heals and jump is just *** and OP. Sorc I think is one of the weakest, little to no heals at all, plus being a vampire with a bugged out health regen even when specced into it, broken? Most things are..

    You know NB's can jump into keeps too right? WW as well. Up until a while ago, and I'm not sure if it even got fixed, sorcs could bolt in. In fact they could bolt into keeps that you couldn't even leap into.
    Edited by Armitas on August 20, 2015 8:10PM
    Retired.
    Nord mDK
  • QuebraRegra
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    wha? How is the DK not the obvious winner here, with the Sorcerer as a close tie?

    Then the insta-heal Templar....

    Then a NB, maybe on the odd Thursday. Except for a snipe/gank, or a sustained Magicka cloak build (only really good for escaping, and easily broken), the NB is the only one without a decent self heal, or dmg shield to speak of.

    You're not playing it right. Seriously. NBs rule Cyrodiil. Half the people in all the guilds I"m in have re-rolled and leveled NBs just to take advantage of it's OPness.

    DK? Yeah, a year ago, maybe.

    Anybody can roll with a group and combine the NB burst potential... agreed devastating. Solo, it's as I said above.

    Zergs will be zergs, being far outnumbered is NO indication of how OP a class might be. FACT.

    Only the very best PLAYERS can play and survive outnumbered, regardless of class. FACT.

    NB's rack up ridiculous kill ratios, farming massive AP. FACT.

    If a player can't do that, they are not doing it right. FACT.

    Sorta facts...

    Any exploit build with any sense has a much better chance of surviving a group encounter... FACT

    NB gankers who stay out of large conflicts, or stay on the periphery and "horse snipe" lone players will have good KD (does KD really matter?)... FACT

    Some can do what others cannot by exploit, CP, macros, and addons.... FACT (you confirm you do this in your own threads tsk, tsk.)

    This is fun, let's do this all day.



    Excuse me, but what is it exactly that you feel I am confirming in my own threads?

    This has gotten off point. My point is that NBs are the most OP class in the game. NBs rack up kills, gain AP and exp faster, on average, than any other class. Nothing you have said refutes that. Of course a V1 NB is going to struggle in PVP, just like any V1. Of course some builds are better than others, no question about that. Is being a NB the ticket to easy PVP and godlike abilities? No, it's not. But NBs account for more kills than any other class, and you can't deny that. Kills bring AP, that is a fact. No other class is feared as much as NBs, and I don't think you can deny that. Every time I kill one, I smile :)

    That's funny, I feel the same way about DKs. What's the proof that NBs get more kills than any other class? Not when I've been killed, that's for sure. I luv it when I get the NB kills from the bounty board, easy kills. Maybe more people play with NB? I don't have any stats to prove it either way.

    I'm not picking on you, you have yer own perspective which is valid to you. I'm thinking a bigger sample size is in order? You use MACROS and add-ons, therefore you have an advantage over others who don't use them. "Some can do what others cannot"... you forgot to mention because of CPs, addons, and macros.

    I do NOT use Macros for combat. The only macros I use are the Wykkyd outfitter macros. I use lots of add-ons, none of which give my an advantage in combat. I'm not sure how you got the impression that I used macros, but that is a false accusation and I don't appreciate it.

    No macors? You sure? ;)

    You certainly use addons, which I and others might argue provide an advantage in combat.

  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    I'm still sticking with Templar. Maybe the best feeling in PVP is having a NB gank attempt go horribly wrong. A few self heals and a Jesus beam to the face quickly teaches them a lesson. Occasionally a well played DK can hurt but, much like a NB, extending the fight past 20 seconds is all a Templar needs to do to win. Sorcerors aren't a problem 1 on 1 but are a huge pain in a Zerg ball. Those purple crystals hurt.

    Lastly though is Templar on Templar crime. A 1 on 1 battle between 2 evenly matched Templars can reach past 15 minutes. It's crazy.

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