Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »NB IS OP Nerf Argonians for the win !!!!!
Go magica maybe the strongest thing on test at the moment.
By the way if run magica night blade you can still block cancel all your insta cast magical abilities at the cost of no stam regen but you don't care because your rocking 31 K magica pool and 2 K plus magica regen which you still earn blocking or block canceling and all you use stamina for in the occasional dodge roll or breakout.
Go magica maybe the strongest thing on test at the moment.
By the way if run magica night blade you can still block cancel all your insta cast magical abilities at the cost of no stam regen but you don't care because your rocking 31 K magica pool and 2 K plus magica regen which you still earn blocking or block canceling and all you use stamina for in the occasional dodge roll or breakout.
Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »NB IS OP Nerf Argonians for the win !!!!!
Thalmor-Nordmaster wrote: »Dracane behold the Future !!! Behold the Thalmor!!! We will quell the unruly Nords My master plan is the banning of Mead !!!!
Bow/Dual Wield Nightblade DPS is definitely NOT OP on PTS. Even a VR16 in full legendary with 300 champion points, a NB dps is adequate but definitely not OP. BTW, rumors of Kahjiit NB superiority are vastly overstated. I repeatedly owned a Kahjiit NB 1v1 on my Redgaurd NB. Maybe I am just a better NB than he was but I owned him.
Bow/Dual Wield Nightblade DPS is definitely NOT OP on PTS. Even a VR16 in full legendary with 300 champion points, a NB dps is adequate but definitely not OP. BTW, rumors of Kahjiit NB superiority are vastly overstated. I repeatedly owned a Kahjiit NB 1v1 on my Redgaurd NB. Maybe I am just a better NB than he was but I owned him.
This thread made me laugh, thanks.
Do you even realize that this clearly shows you don't research even how to pull good dps as after extensive theorycrafting by others 2 maces was proven to be better than 2 daggers, despite RP, you can't complain about dps if you won't use the best things or the effort to research it I'm afraid
Bow/Dual Wield Nightblade DPS is definitely NOT OP on PTS. Even a VR16 in full legendary with 300 champion points, a NB dps is adequate but definitely not OP. BTW, rumors of Kahjiit NB superiority are vastly overstated. I repeatedly owned a Kahjiit NB 1v1 on my Redgaurd NB. Maybe I am just a better NB than he was but I owned him.
This thread made me laugh, thanks.
Do you even realize that this clearly shows you don't research even how to pull good dps as after extensive theorycrafting by others 2 maces was proven to be better than 2 daggers, despite RP, you can't complain about dps if you won't use the best things or the effort to research it I'm afraid
Do you even realize how elitist and condescending you sound?
Exactly how much difference does maces make over daggers? If its not more than about 2%, who cares?
Have you done your theorycrafting on the PTS?
You will find the NB to be changed somewhat. Your theory crafting may have to be revised.
Bow/Dual Wield Nightblade DPS is definitely NOT OP on PTS. Even a VR16 in full legendary with 300 champion points, a NB dps is adequate but definitely not OP. BTW, rumors of Kahjiit NB superiority are vastly overstated. I repeatedly owned a Kahjiit NB 1v1 on my Redgaurd NB. Maybe I am just a better NB than he was but I owned him.
This thread made me laugh, thanks.
Do you even realize that this clearly shows you don't research even how to pull good dps as after extensive theorycrafting by others 2 maces was proven to be better than 2 daggers, despite RP, you can't complain about dps if you won't use the best things or the effort to research it I'm afraid
Do you even realize how elitist and condescending you sound? This is not WoW, play your toon how you want. There is no one optimal path. If that is what you want, go back to wow.
Exactly how much difference does maces make over daggers? If its not more than about 2%, who cares?
Have you done your theorycrafting on the PTS? I doubt it. You will find the NB to be changed somewhat. Your theory crafting may have to be revised.
Is my test on the PTS accurate? Yes because I played the same race/class/spec with similar gear as I do on live. So the relative difference is accurate. You will find all dps reduced on PTS to about 1/3 to 1/2 what it is now. What I am reporting is a stam build. I dont know magica builds for the NB class.
The DK I was grouped with was reporting about 4k dps for a 2h/1h and shield bulid. My dps seemed higher, maybe 6-8k in full legendary. I need to setup an addon that can tell me dps on pts.
I am aware and sorry for sounding so but you really should put some effort into testing and theorycrafting before making the comments you make. I can find the post for you in a second for the daggers vs maces. Yes, I theorycraft all the time on the PTS and have nearly finished my work on the best setups for all classes for PvE but am still frustraited that we don't know traits of some gears etc and ZOS won't give us information without farming for them. Last comment: Haha, nope, theorycrafted enough to know that NB's are not pulling bad dps, yes they are effected by the fixing of bugs such as camo hunter and sharpened mace but in no way do I need to 'revise' my theorycrafting. Atleast I apparently do some @blackweb.
I am aware and sorry for sounding so but you really should put some effort into testing and theorycrafting before making the comments you make. I can find the post for you in a second for the daggers vs maces. Yes, I theorycraft all the time on the PTS and have nearly finished my work on the best setups for all classes for PvE but am still frustraited that we don't know traits of some gears etc and ZOS won't give us information without farming for them. Last comment: Haha, nope, theorycrafted enough to know that NB's are not pulling bad dps, yes they are effected by the fixing of bugs such as camo hunter and sharpened mace but in no way do I need to 'revise' my theorycrafting. Atleast I apparently do some @blackweb.
My NB build is PVP focused. My dps could probably be higher. PvP requires utility, stuns, interrupts, snares, etc. I am using the Thief Essence set along with some stam jewelry. There may be better sets for pvp. I also have more health than stam, again for survivability in pvp. But then most of the new content is pvp focused amirite?
I did get to repeatedly fight a Kahjiit NB and owned him repeatedly with my build so it is working as intended. I did not have too much trouble with mobs except the temple event or when I got zerged by them.
If you want to suggest a better pve nb bulid, go ahead. I never claimed my build was the ultimate dps build. Again in pvp, utility often matters more than pure damage.
Bow/Dual Wield Nightblade DPS is definitely NOT OP on PTS. Even a VR16 in full legendary with 300 champion points, a NB dps is adequate but definitely not OP.
My NB build is burst damage focused. It may be somewhat lacking in sustained damage.
Briefly browsing my PvE notes I have this scrawled: 3 Agility Rings, 1 Molag Kena, 5 Hundings Rage (2 Maces) and 3x Toxic. This is what I thought the optimum PvE setup would be from the limited understanding of sets that can gather from PTS set bags. Of course I completely think this could be better adapted for a PvP setup but yeah, lots of crit, weapon damage and stamina being stacked.
@blackweb
You will get more than 2% damage by switching to maces over any other weapon type, excluding 2h. 2H maul is far and away the highest burst you can achieve.
With that said, if you don't use heavy/light attacks at all and rely totally on class/weapon abilities, DW maces are the way to go (though I have NO idea who wouldn't use light/heavies)
So if you are aiming for a gank/bust build, the largest stealth hit you can achieve in the game is a heavy maul attack from stealth, fully charged, followed by a canceling SA.
Hope that helps.