Change Battle Roar DK Passive

TagaParti · August 2015

Battle roar is an OP passive no question about it.
It could be better in terms of balancing if they change it to
50% & 100% increase gold from loot.
NB, Temp, Sorcs will be happy about it, some DKs too.
Majority happy!
What do you think guys?

Rylana · August 2015

Shut up already. DK is fine

GRxKnight · August 2015

Isn't it getting alerted a bit next patch? Honestly i feel like it's a fine passive...there have been many of these types of threads before and it's always come down to this...DK's were meant to be this tanky class and the passive fits well with this theme

Asmael · August 2015

frozywozy · August 2015

Not to forget that DK is the only class without range abilities other than scorpion's move and without any escape move other than mist form (that if you decide to go vampire).

They need those ressources to be able to manage the melee fights.

Apokh · August 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Not to forget that DK is the only class without range abilities.

wh00t?

Cuyler · August 2015

Buff DK

What class do you play @TagaParti ? Maybe I can suggest some ways to counter or better yet some nerfs for you....

Asmael · August 2015

Can I suggest to change Lava Whip to a new OP skill? Thanks...

Wet Noodle:
- Heals an enemy target for 20% of their max health
- Same magicka cost as Lava whip

White Cream Noodle (Wet Noodle morph):
- Now also increase your target's max stamina by 15% for 5 to 10 seconds

Juicy noodle (Wet Noodle morph):
- All your attacks have a 20% extra miss chance

Armitas · August 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

Battle roar is an OP passive no question about it.
It could be better in terms of balancing if they change it to
50% & 100% increase gold from loot.
NB, Temp, Sorcs will be happy about it, some DKs too.
Majority happy!
What do you think guys?

100% gold increase might be a bit OP. Maybe make it give you crafting inspiration or lower your research times by 1 minute every time you drop an ultimate.

Juraigr · August 2015

Asmael wrote: »

Can I suggest to change Lava Whip to a new OP skill? Thanks...

Wet Noodle:
- Heals an enemy target for 20% of their max health
- Same magicka cost as Lava whip

White Cream Noodle (Wet Noodle morph):
- Now also increase your target's max stamina by 15% for 5 to 10 seconds

Juicy noodle (Wet Noodle morph):
- All your attacks have a 20% extra miss chance

Omfg that juicy noodle morph XXXXXDDDDDD ROFL

bertenburnyb16_ESO · August 2015

Things that will never change:
A. War
B. Dk nerf crys

Jules · August 2015

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Sypher · August 2015

In 1.7 the passive isn't giving as many resources back for some reason. >_> like, it's very very noticeable.

Waylander · August 2015

@sypher I wonder if it is coded like healing and is receiving battle spirit reductions?

nordsavage · August 2015

I think DK's have seen enough nerfs since the game came out thank you very much.

Sanct16 · August 2015

Sypher wrote: »

In 1.7 the passive isn't giving as many resources back for some reason. >_> like, it's very very noticeable.

They already announced the nerf on ESO live. The resource gain depends not longer on your magicka pool (as magicka dk your highest pool) but on each individual pool.

The amount of Stamina you gain doesnt scale with your 35k Max Magicka but with your 14k Stamina... so yeah, obviously you get back less.

But yeah, fits perfectly with ZOS overall plans on destroying DKs.

The 2.1 DK:
No movement (Forced to be Vamp for Mistform which is still easily countered by buggy Jabs, Jesusbeam, roots, snares, etc)
No defense (RIP block)
No burst
... at least we have stonefist with healing morph.

There was a point where DK was probably a bit OP, or at least easiest class... But since 1.6 there isnt much left of it anyway. 1.7 is just gonna be the final arrow to the knee.

Ezareth · August 2015

TagaParti wrote: »

Battle roar is an OP passive no question about it.
It could be better in terms of balancing if they change it to
50% & 100% increase gold from loot.
NB, Temp, Sorcs will be happy about it, some DKs too.
Majority happy!
What do you think guys?

Nerf Banner. Too Stronk.

ThyIronFist · August 2015

I cry every time I see your threads.

Sypher · August 2015

Waylander wrote: »

@sypher I wonder if it is coded like healing and is receiving battle spirit reductions?

This.

Sanct16 wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

In 1.7 the passive isn't giving as many resources back for some reason. >_> like, it's very very noticeable.

They already announced the nerf on ESO live. The resource gain depends not longer on your magicka pool (as magicka dk your highest pool) but on each individual pool.

The amount of Stamina you gain doesnt scale with your 35k Max Magicka but with your 14k Stamina... so yeah, obviously you get back less.

But yeah, fits perfectly with ZOS overall plans on destroying DKs.

The 2.1 DK:
No movement (Forced to be Vamp for Mistform which is still easily countered by buggy Jabs, Jesusbeam, roots, snares, etc)
No defense (RIP block)
No burst
... at least we have stonefist with healing morph.

There was a point where DK was probably a bit OP, or at least easiest class... But since 1.6 there isnt much left of it anyway. 1.7 is just gonna be the final arrow to the knee.

And This.

I've concluded after a few weeks of testing that for solo pvp I've had more success with a magicka templar (few days experience) than a magicka dk.

nordsavage · August 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

TagaParti wrote: »

Battle roar is an OP passive no question about it.
It could be better in terms of balancing if they change it to
50% & 100% increase gold from loot.
NB, Temp, Sorcs will be happy about it, some DKs too.
Majority happy!
What do you think guys?

Nerf Banner. Too Stronk.

Banner is expensive to use no.

Gol Barr · August 2015

1.6 was a huge nerf for dk

vortexman11 · August 2015

***.

I'm most likely the poorest PvPer on the entire North American server and I wouldn't even want this

Aconight · August 2015

Hahaha op you trolling? It's not enough that I already have to waste my ultimate to stay alive cause I can't just blink away like a sorc or cloak like a nb? Might as well just remove it all together.

Forestd16b14_ESO · August 2015

Hmm even after a year of nerfs we finally get a buff and here isthis thread saying to not only not do it but nerf it.

So it's true it's perfectly fine to blast DKs but say one tiny bad thing about sorcs NB or temps and every one losses there sweetrolls and scream at ZoS to nerf DKs harder.

Sanct16 · August 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Hmm even after a year of nerfs we finally get a buff and here isthis thread saying to not only not do it but nerf it.

So it's true it's perfectly fine to blast DKs but say one tiny bad thing about sorcs NB or temps and every one losses there sweetrolls and scream at ZoS to nerf DKs harder.

The battle roar change is another nerf for magicka Dk.

Forestd16b14_ESO · August 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Hmm even after a year of nerfs we finally get a buff and here isthis thread saying to not only not do it but nerf it.

So it's true it's perfectly fine to blast DKs but say one tiny bad thing about sorcs NB or temps and every one losses there sweetrolls and scream at ZoS to nerf DKs harder.

The battle roar change is another nerf for magicka Dk.

Uh how battle roar scales off how many points you have into the stats now so if you have alot of points into magicka you should be fine. The change helps health and stamina base DKs now.

Ishammael · August 2015

Sanct16 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Hmm even after a year of nerfs we finally get a buff and here isthis thread saying to not only not do it but nerf it.

So it's true it's perfectly fine to blast DKs but say one tiny bad thing about sorcs NB or temps and every one losses there sweetrolls and scream at ZoS to nerf DKs harder.

The battle roar change is another nerf for magicka Dk.

Probably the biggest direct DK nerf since talons way back when. Although I guess it helps stam DKs. The largest nerf was the change to static ultimate generation, but I'll call that indirect.

Sanct16 · August 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Hmm even after a year of nerfs we finally get a buff and here isthis thread saying to not only not do it but nerf it.

So it's true it's perfectly fine to blast DKs but say one tiny bad thing about sorcs NB or temps and every one losses there sweetrolls and scream at ZoS to nerf DKs harder.

The battle roar change is another nerf for magicka Dk.

Uh how battle roar scales off how many points you have into the stats now so if you have alot of points into magicka you should be fine. The change helps health and stamina base DKs now.

You get less Health and Stamina back as a magicka DK.

Armitas · August 2015

I don't know I kind of like where this is going. Make the DK a merchant class so that we can use it to support the other classes we are now playing with good gear.

Aconight · August 2015

Armitas wrote: »

I don't know I kind of like where this is going. Make the DK a merchant class so that we can use it to support the other classes we play with good gear.

Earthen heart -> Speechcraft
Draconic power -> Mercantile

Imperial dk op

Ishammael · August 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Hmm even after a year of nerfs we finally get a buff and here isthis thread saying to not only not do it but nerf it.

So it's true it's perfectly fine to blast DKs but say one tiny bad thing about sorcs NB or temps and every one losses there sweetrolls and scream at ZoS to nerf DKs harder.

The battle roar change is another nerf for magicka Dk.

Uh how battle roar scales off how many points you have into the stats now so if you have alot of points into magicka you should be fine. The change helps health and stamina base DKs now.

What is a health-based DK????