You must have been playing the WRONG game if that is what you thought lol venture into pvp once and see that almost all of the pvp players are using sword and shield. The only people who dont are A) Those who refuse to conform to what the meta is B ) Those who do not know any better.


The better question is why do they still want to give the spell damage benefit to melee weapons......that makes ZERO sense

PBpsy wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Try to explain that to people who state in official patch notes of PTS that they see tank type characters as someone who is supposed to have low health and do damage

"Monsters

Mages, skirmishers, and tanks have all been tweaked to have less dramatic variation. In general, mages will have less damage and more health, while tanks will have less health and more damage."

The fact that people who think that way, decide what is "good" and what is "bad" for tanks and ignore feedback because "we dont know what is good for us" is terrifying.

I think they meant that as compared to their current values not compared relative to each other.

Maybe, maybe not. It would be nice if they would clarify a lot of things, especially when they suddenly make changes that go against PVE tanks who actually do tanking in game.
Explain what in their mind tank is supposed to do.
Explain the true reasons behind stamina nerf.
A statement in one post, not scraps of information spread around reddit, over 9000 dev posts on forums and few second statements on various ESO live episodes and streams.

MaximusDargus wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Try to explain that to people who state in official patch notes of PTS that they see tank type characters as someone who is supposed to have low health and do damage

"Monsters

Mages, skirmishers, and tanks have all been tweaked to have less dramatic variation. In general, mages will have less damage and more health, while tanks will have less health and more damage."

The fact that people who think that way, decide what is "good" and what is "bad" for tanks and ignore feedback because "we dont know what is good for us" is terrifying.

I think they meant that as compared to their current values not compared relative to each other.

Maybe, maybe not. It would be nice if they would clarify a lot of things, especially when they suddenly make changes that go against PVE tanks who actually do tanking in game.
Explain what in their mind tank is supposed to do.
Explain the true reasons behind stamina nerf.
A statement in one post, not scraps of information spread around reddit, over 9000 dev posts on forums and few second statements on various ESO live episodes and streams.

Well this has gone for a long time and one shouldn't expect for better. I personally stooped caring and have been unable to take combat changes seriously in this game since that hilarious ESO live where they announced dynamic ultimate generation removal and the buff system. Anything after that was just downhill. I learned to enjoy it.

Now the fun is seeing how they will make this game more "fun" by ruining everything in it.

MaximusDargus wrote: »

Try to explain that to people who state in official patch notes of PTS that they see tank type characters as someone who is supposed to have low health and do damage

"Monsters

Mages, skirmishers, and tanks have all been tweaked to have less dramatic variation. In general, mages will have less damage and more health, while tanks will have less health and more damage."

The fact that people who think that way, decide what is "good" and what is "bad" for tanks and ignore feedback because "we dont know what is good for us" is terrifying.

Please reread this section. They are referring to enemy mobs (npcs) and not player characters. This was, I believe, to somewhat even out the difficulty/grindability of pve encounters.

Of course, I may have missed out on some attempt at humor, but it's quite clear to me that this statement has nothing to do with their view on player roles and simply on making monsters somewhat more homogeneous.

You get another set piece slot and a slot for a major armor enchant. This alone make Sword & Board so strong and attractive.

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Yea no idea what you're talking about i'm a 2h tank and don't use a SnS ....... How ever since we are topic of tanks they NEED to buff heavy armor specially after the 100% armor boost light armor just got .

I know it's possible to tank without using sword & board (as long as you use Inner Fire or a morph - if you're not using S&B and you're not using Inner Fire then you're simply not tanking, because you need to be able to taunt if you want to tank), but oh man are you ever making things tougher on yourself by doing so. Without using S&B you're missing out on a 38% reduction in the cost of blocking, a 28% increase in the amount of damage you can block, an additional 15% increase in the amount of ranged/projectile damage you can block, a 100% increase in the damage of your bashes, and a 40% reduction in the cost of bashing. Those all make such a big difference to a tank. And all of that's without even activating any of the active skills in the skill line...

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

@UrQuan does make it more fun though

More challenging definitely... If you don't find the current vet dungeons & trials to be enough of a challenge to your tanking abilities and you want that extra challenge, I say more power to you. I couldn't tank effectively without sword & board, but if you can pull it off why not do it?

Now that blocking is dead, why can't Sword & Board have some DPS skills?

It really bugs me that NPCs have Power Bashes that hit for 20K, while MY Power Bash only does about 4000 or something. If blocking is now pointless as a "meta", we should have some high damage abilities that we can use to build a new meta.

@ZOS_RichLambert, can we have a /lurk on this?

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Now that blocking is dead, why can't Sword & Board have some DPS skills?

It really bugs me that NPCs have Power Bashes that hit for 20K, while MY Power Bash only does about 4000 or something. If blocking is now pointless as a "meta", we should have some high damage abilities that we can use to build a new meta.

@ZOS_RichLambert, can we have a /lurk on this?

Especially true for a stamina DK by the way.