Remove Guild Trading System--Implement Global Auction House

getmesome2 · August 2015

This system is flawed for buyers and sellers alike.

For the 2nd straight week I have seen guild traders rise in price to be able to buy them.

3 guilds I am in bid over 1.3m and lost bids---> Whats the cause of this?

1. Guilds that Lose the bids on a weekly basis keep those funds for the next week, in turn those funds are added to another week of fundraising, thus pushing up the price every single week.

2. Pig farm Exploitation has ruined the Economy and caused inflation, causing everything (mainly Guild Traders) to be outrageous in price.

3. Multiple GOOD TRADING guilds are bidding on the same trader while the 'lucky' guilds get a trader for cheap because noone had any idea what they bid or where they bid so guilds are overreaching and spending 2m+ to be safe.

4. Players moving from PC to PS4 being able to transfer money has put a serious dent into the economy as well and caused over inflation.

How do you fix these issues?

Global Auction house with a 15% selling fee and 10% deposit fee will make up for the GoldSink in guild traders.

Players have been complaining for a year now with nothing being done by this company, its time to make changes before WE, THE PLAYERS, make a GAME CHANGE.

badmojo · August 2015

Nobody has ever brought up this topic before.

AlnilamE · August 2015

No.

getmesome2 · August 2015

badmojo wrote: »

Nobody has ever brought up this topic before.

Sarcasm sensed, but why do you think there are so many topics on the issue pal? Its a flawed system

Arkadius · August 2015

No.

QuadroTony · August 2015

getmesome2 · August 2015

Xiana wrote: »

No.

at-least explain why, saying no will fall on deaf ears

joshisanonymous · August 2015

No. FFS, no already. Get over it.

DenMoria · August 2015

A lot of people seem to like the guild system.

I'm not one of them, unfortunately, so I will remain poor.

The best I can do is drop items in the guild bank and occasionally drop something in to the guild store. As to actually participating? Nope.

getmesome2 · August 2015

joshisanonymous wrote: »

No. FFS, no already. Get over it.

YES FFS, guild traders DO NOT WORK.

Kobaal · August 2015

getmesome2 · August 2015

DenMoria wrote: »

A lot of people seem to like the guild system.

I'm not one of them, unfortunately, so I will remain poor.

The best I can do is drop items in the guild bank and occasionally drop something in to the guild store. As to actually participating? Nope.

I make over 1,000,000 a week selling on guild traders, but it means nothing to me if i can not find the items i need to buy or have to spend an hour or two to find it.

Also I could make more money if there was a CENTRAL auction house than i could with any guild trader, people do not realize this so they think it actually works.

Kobaal · August 2015

getmesome2 wrote: »

Xiana wrote: »

No.

at-least explain why, saying no will fall on deaf ears

Just my 2 cents

People are probably tired of "explaining" because they have already explained in multiple other threads regarding this same exact topic. Last week there was 2 separate threads going on simultaneously regarding this same exact thing.

riverdragon72 · August 2015

VoidBlue · August 2015

global auction house. no.

zoned auction house. yes.

each zone has a main auction house just like those 5 crappy guild traders but its in one place and its all shared together. meaning what you list to sell in the Riften auction house only shows up in the riften auction house it will be better than hunting through 5 traders that are crappy and may not have what youre looking for from a guild that only has 120 people in it. so a zoned auction house which will be easier to go through as its all in one place and it will have 1000s of people listing items so the item will be easier to find and prices will have a base line instead of a 10k nord motif which is over priced to every motif being 2500 and everyone will be happy and everything will be easier for all.

getmesome2 · August 2015

Kobaal wrote: »

getmesome2 wrote: »

Xiana wrote: »

No.

at-least explain why, saying no will fall on deaf ears

Just my 2 cents

People are probably tired of "explaining" because they have already explained in multiple other threads regarding this same exact topic. Last week there was 2 separate threads going on simultaneously regarding this same exact thing.

Im sure there will 2 a week forever until they implement changes

Kammakazi · August 2015

The people disagreeing are the ones who participate a lot in it.

I for one dislike the guild trader system.

Let's say I want to look for an item, I have to go through each guild trader in a major city. What if it's not there? Guess I'll just go to a different city. What if it isn't there? Wait a minute... not all guild traders are in a major city, they can be located somewhere in the wilderness. See the problem? So much traveling just for a single piece of item.

Why not have something like the Grand Exchange?

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or my favorite, Vindictus' Marketplace.

Agobi · August 2015

Surely this horse must be dead by now??

Mighty_oakk · August 2015

Every monday someone posts this...

Psychobunni · August 2015

@getmesome2 This topic is right on the front page

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/203608/this-guild-trader-system-is-so-bad/p1

Because I'm lazy too, I'll copy/paste my answer from there:

Psychobunni wrote: »

I think going straight for the "gimme the AH" is the wrong tactic.

Getting the community behind some "improvements" on the other hand such as better search functions, more than one guild per trader, better bidding, etc.....would be a better way to get ZOS attention to the matter. (imo)

They don't want to an AH, fine. So let's focus on fixing the current system instead.

getmesome2 · August 2015

VoidBlue wrote: »

global auction house. no.

zoned auction house. yes.

each zone has a main auction house just like those 5 crappy guild traders but its in one place and its all shared together. meaning what you list to sell in the Riften auction house only shows up in the riften auction house it will be better than hunting through 5 traders that are crappy and may not have what youre looking for from a guild that only has 120 people in it. so a zoned auction house which will be easier to go through as its all in one place and it will have 1000s of people listing items so the item will be easier to find and prices will have a base line instead of a 10k nord motif which is over priced to every motif being 2500 and everyone will be happy and everything will be easier for all.

whats the point of spreading them around though?

Elsonso · August 2015

Traders are a workable solution. ZOS has said that it is what they want to do, and that really needs to be where the focus of attention resides.

Trader prices are high because the resource is limited. More traders will help address this. I think the game is designed so that the traders cannot be customized across megaservers. For now, prices are set by the guilds and those prices will continue to increase for as long as the trend can be maintained.

If you want to equalize the economy and balance the players that came over from PC, you need to get them to spend gold on something that does not earn gold. A global auction house will not solve this imbalance.

ZOS does not fix farm exploits and botting with a sense of urgency. Lack of apparent action leads to the impression that it is allowed, and for all I know it is. In any case, a global auction house will not fix this.

getmesome2 · August 2015

Psychobunni wrote: »

@getmesome2 This topic is right on the front page

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/203608/this-guild-trader-system-is-so-bad/p1

Because I'm lazy too, I'll copy/paste my answer from there:

Psychobunni wrote: »

I think going straight for the "gimme the AH" is the wrong tactic.

Getting the community behind some "improvements" on the other hand such as better search functions, more than one guild per trader, better bidding, etc.....would be a better way to get ZOS attention to the matter. (imo)

They don't want to an AH, fine. So let's focus on fixing the current system instead.

Why keep it though?

VoidBlue · August 2015

getmesome2 wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

global auction house. no.

zoned auction house. yes.

each zone has a main auction house just like those 5 crappy guild traders but its in one place and its all shared together. meaning what you list to sell in the Riften auction house only shows up in the riften auction house it will be better than hunting through 5 traders that are crappy and may not have what youre looking for from a guild that only has 120 people in it. so a zoned auction house which will be easier to go through as its all in one place and it will have 1000s of people listing items so the item will be easier to find and prices will have a base line instead of a 10k nord motif which is over priced to every motif being 2500 and everyone will be happy and everything will be easier for all.

whats the point of spreading them around though?

it would be more traditional because each zones major city would "run" the auction house and it would still be realistic like the horrible horrible guild trader system is since this is old times era game and cross country communication hasnt been invented yet to be able to see if a store in daggerfall has this item to ship to the store in wayrest for you to buy at wayrest.

its the best of both worlds it still gives the guild trader lovers half of what they like and gives the auction house lovers half of what they like.

Kobaal · August 2015

getmesome2 wrote: »

Kobaal wrote: »

getmesome2 wrote: »

Xiana wrote: »

No.

at-least explain why, saying no will fall on deaf ears

Just my 2 cents

People are probably tired of "explaining" because they have already explained in multiple other threads regarding this same exact topic. Last week there was 2 separate threads going on simultaneously regarding this same exact thing.

Im sure there will 2 a week forever until they implement changes

Good luck with that.

I'm curious why you made this second thread though. You had made a previous thread on this:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/203681/ps4-guild-trader-bid-lost-500k-in-a-semi-active-zone-fix-this-horrible-system/p1

You could have kept that one going so as to consolidate ideas instead of fragmenting them all in multiple posts.

Malediktus · August 2015

No. I like seeing different prices at almost every guild trader.

QuadroTony · August 2015

Cherryblossom · August 2015

ZOS quite simply does not feel that the economy should be inclusive, they have decided that there should be super rich and then everyone else, just like real life!

Psychobunni · August 2015

getmesome2 wrote: »

Why keep it though?

Because ZOS said no AH. (I'd rather have AH myself but it matters not if they keep saying No)

So what is more constructive and/or likely to achieve any changes? To keep asking for AH or work towards improving the current system?

VoidBlue · August 2015

Psychobunni wrote: »

getmesome2 wrote: »

Why keep it though?

Because ZOS said no AH. (I'd rather have AH myself but it matters not if they keep saying No)

So what is more constructive and/or likely to achieve any changes? To keep asking for AH or work towards improving the current system?

zoned auction houses is the best logical choice in the horrible guild trader evolution

Kobaal · August 2015