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NB's are KING in Imperial City
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✭✭If you haven't already I would highly suggest making or leveling up a NB for IC. It will be LIGHT YEARS beyond all other classes. lets take a look at why.
1. Most of the NB's are stacking armor penetration. All will have 25-30k armor penetration so even wearing 7 pieces of reinforced heavy armor and 100 CP's in heavy armor will give you no protection. Your armor will be reduced to 0.
2. Fear is without a doubt the best CC ability in the game. No other skill comes remotely close to it. It has a long animation so CC breaking is delayed and it even goes through block. THEN has an after effect of reduced speed AND reduced damage.
3. Shadow cloak mixed with path of darkness is the ultimate escape. You cannot target them, cannot attack them because they will be immune if you use detect pots, can't catch them (unless your a sorcerer then all you will be doing is aggroing npcs or use the insanely expensive retreating maneuver in which case you will just aggro npc's AND be short on stamina.) Mage light is worthless.
4. The damage reduction doesn't seem to be effecting the class at all. Because of the opportunity for so many escape options they are still stacking weapon damage through the roof. only requires an extra shot or (god forbid) 2.
5. Despite what many people try and say they can heal themselves more then fine. momentum, resolving vigor, resto staff bubble works better then my honor the dead.
LETS SUM UP.
1. unable to mitigate their damage
2. unable to block their damage
3. can't lock them down.
4. can't target them
5. best escapes (vanish)
6. cheapest ultimate
7. best mobility
8. best passives
9. able to fully heal themselves.
10. biggest damage dealer.
Definitely Roll a NB for IC. its a win.
I think a lot people are getting tired of this. except the nb community who of course will say L2P. To be quite honest I don't think I'll purchase IC with the state that classes are in. But thats just me.
I'm bored, so let's go.
1) minor dmg debuff works fine on NB, also block works pretty well for 6 seconds.
In addition to that everyone can reach high armor penetration thanks to sharpened mace,nb is not special in that.
Nb got an ability which reduces your armor (major debuff). S&B got a skill which does the same so it's not unique.
2) as said above it works pretty fine. Every class got a fear-like ability ignoring block - and it's breakable.
A stun break isn't delayed under normal circumstances, it's just your latency and the game itself causing it sometimes.
Also fear is the most used one since it's AoE based, in 1v1 it's not better than other CCs.
You could also use immunity potions or roll in the moment a NB uses Ambush at you.
3) charge remove cloak, same with AoEs.
In case you don't have a charge, are you complaining about streak as well?
4) hit them out of cloak and you can. If you don't use skills for that or don't want to - deal with it.
Remember that Archers need to run a secondary weapon with melee abilities just to counter DK reflect.
The world isn't fair.
5) that your call vanish the best escape is stupid, you cant use it as escape mid battle since Sorcs will streak or have their AoE dot up, DKs got their AoE dot and Templars will jab you out of it. Against zergs it will break instantly since it's kinda buggy against many opponents.
Shadow Image is the best and if you don't know that please don't QQ about a class you don't know.
6) true, but it only deals slightly more dmg than our main dmg ability and is single target.
Also the cheapest is overload - also the most buggy one..
I'd rather have take flight in exchange for incapacitating strike since you can barely dodge it, deals a heck lot of dmg, is AoE, range and stuns. It's not all about the cost.
7) shadow image, yap. But based on situation sorc is equally good.
8) every class got good passives and I don't think NBs got the best.
We get recovery, DKs get instant ressources etc.
You could argue hours about it, but you can't simply say that NBs got the best.
That's not how it works.
9) we got a HoT which is only useful as Magicka build, but is useless against every build using shields and even then it won't heal you anywhere close to full health since it's ridiculous low.
Sap Essence is a small heal and based on the amount of enemys you hit. Mark will heal you for a huge amount if you kill your opponent - so it's nothing you can just easily get.
Nb has nothing comparable to BoL or Gdb - nothing.
10) based on what? Burst? Sure. Sustain? Ever heard of Templar DD? Templar is so underestimated.
NB is strong I won't argue about that, but the kings?
I call it now and you will see:
Wait for the good Templars as soon as pts go live and watch the world burn.
I am going to have my world burning high elf Templar ready for the patch, and my main was a Bosmer Nightblade since launch.
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✭✭✭✭✭Lets nerf everythin, pretty soon we will be stuck with 1 or 2 abilties that aint got a penalty if you spam it more then twice in 4 seconds. GG.
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Fornacis✭✭This thread is still going? Every counter to a nightblade has been given, but some still think they are OP. That's a big LOL. Are they good? Yes. Are they great? Yes, in the hands of the right player, but so are all classes. Some of the opinions are implying that the only class to play now is a NB and that is comical. Please, please please have droves of people reroll NB. I like AP. Every patch someone states how good a certain class is and you will see people flock to that class like it is going to give them some kind of advantage. All it does is makes some kill quest easier to fill than others.
This is not a bash against good NB's, so NB mains don't take it personal.
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✭Hi! Here to dismantle anything you just said.
If you haven't already I would highly suggest making or leveling up a NB for IC. It will be LIGHT YEARS beyond all other classes. lets take a look at why.
Being playing Magicka NB for the last year! None of these reasons are the reasons why I enjoy the style of play that fits my gaming personality.
1. Most of the NB's are stacking armor penetration. All will have 25-30k armor penetration so even wearing 7 pieces of reinforced heavy armor and 100 CP's in heavy armor will give you no protection. Your armor will be reduced to 0.
No I am not, I am Magicka. There are other Magicka nightblades out there too. So not every NB is stacking Armor Pen. Besides, a bug is a bug.
3. Fear is without a doubt the best CC ability in the game. No other skill comes remotely close to it. It has a long animation so CC breaking is delayed and it even goes through block. THEN has an after effect of reduced speed AND reduced damage.
I don't use fear, because the loss of stamina with a CC break is easily mitigated by stamina regen and stamina reduction abilities. Infact, the only stun I use is conceal weapons, I like to be able to manipulate the fight, like a NB should, not just blow through my enemy, not my style.
4. Shadow cloak mixed with path of darkness is the ultimate escape. You cannot target them, cannot attack them because they will be immune if you use detect pots, can't catch them (unless your a sorcerer then all you will be doing is aggroing npcs or use the insanely expensive retreating maneuver in which case you will just aggro npc's AND be short on stamina.) Mage light is worthless.
You like to make things up I see. It's Shadow Cloak mixed with Evasion because Path of Darkness is worthless 95% of the time.
Everything here is false pretense, AoE catches them and most important an intelligent player who understands how a NB has to think will always catch a NB. I find people in stealth using just the eye because of their psychology and fundamental failure in understanding the ART that is stealth play.
Apparently you do not understand that fundamental skill of sneaking around either.
5. The damage reduction doesn't seem to be effecting the class at all. Because of the opportunity for so many escape options they are still stacking weapon damage through the roof. only requires an extra shot or (god forbid) 2.
Um? We're squishy.
6. Despite what many people try and say they can heal themselves more then fine. momentum, resolving vigor, resto staff bubble works better then my honor the dead.
You obviously do not understand how to play your Templar or how to PLAY not fight, a Nightblade.
LETS SUM UP.
Either you're a troll or do not know what you are talking about. I'll go with both.
Definitely Roll a Troll for IC. its a win.
I think a lot people are getting tired of this. except the nb community who of course will say L2P. To be quite honest I don't think I'll purchase IC with the state that classes are in. But thats just me.
You are right, we will tell you how to learn to play; the Templar and the Nightblade. What I am getting tired of is people who do not bother how to learn how to think like a Nightblade.
Likewise, beating any class effectively means you would have to actually level a class and learn how to be effective with it first. Then perhaps, you could comment and your responses would have some form of merit or truth to them.
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Woow... ok men, this is so funny that i just cant... i just cant even start to talk about it... simple put, the worst pvp advice i read in this forum, at least in a long time.TheBonesXXX wrote: »I don't use fear, because the loss of stamina with a CC break is easily mitigated by stamina regen and stamina reduction abilities. Infact, the only stun I use is conceal weapons.
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✭A crying NB army appears, to defend the class screaming as loud as possible to cover every other voice!
This ^
They have strength in number. They will gank any forum thread that will threaten their supremacy, just as they gank everyone in PVP.
They will use those numbers of theirs to manipulate feedback and provide false data to devs in order to push trought any change they like or make sure something they wont like will stay away from the game. Just like right now they send false positive feedback, just to let ZOS have excuse that "they are receiving lot of positive feedback" on PTS to make sure "0 stamina regen while blocking" will be put in game, so they dont have to deal with tanks in PVP anymore.
with every change, and feedback recievied ZOS should check the players Class and role and his PVP rank, and then decide if his feedback is worth anything or they just want to achieve personal gains with it.Edited by Rinmaethodain on August 9, 2015 8:29AM2 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭Funny thing is they can keep their permablockin siphoning nb tank style and can give a *** to the zero stam regen issue just because they cried loud enough to kepp the old siphoning buff ^^. At least zero stamreg wont be an issue for them.2
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Nallenil✭✭✭When the game launched... NBs still had all those skills available and yet everyone considered them the worst class. NBs are very complex and the combos are harder to pull than with other classes which makes them an interesting pick in the hands of a good player. I wouldn't play NB if it they had the same dumb, no skills required, mechanics as the other classes. You find an assassin type character who is good at ... assassining bad? L2P.3
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✭And when survive and sustain type character is good at.... staying alive and NB DPSes who want to one shot kill everyone complain to nerf those skills and classes.... not L2P at all?1 -
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✭✭✭The most gamebreaking NB feature to me still is endless invisibility.
I am playing no NB, so I do not know how you guys pull this trick. But yesterday, after being killed by a mob, I watched my team leader (NB) staying invisible/unnoticed inside the hostile mob for more than a minute - until finally the mob disappeared, so he could revive me.
Sorry, but IMHO endless invisibility inside a hostile mob is plain nonsense.
Do you know any other reasonable game where this is possible?
Suggestion: Make NBs visible to near NBs.
Yes, a gifted predator can hide from his prey - but not from other predators.
Edited by BalticBlues on August 9, 2015 10:24AM4 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭hellkrasher wrote: »
Woow... ok men, this is so funny that i just cant... i just cant even start to talk about it... simple put, the worst pvp advice i read in this forum, at least in a long time.TheBonesXXX wrote: »I don't use fear, because the loss of stamina with a CC break is easily mitigated by stamina regen and stamina reduction abilities. Infact, the only stun I use is conceal weapons.
Actually if you are a magicka melee nb it's pretty good advice and pretty much my philosophy exactly. A concealed weapon stun is much more useful in combat than a fear...especially if you are playing a decent player. I put fear on my escape bar like I said so I can get some distance when I need to heal ward/mist form. But if you manage your stamina well you should be able to break it and get back into the fight. The snare is the really annoying part. Although I will admit I've been guilty of burning stamina with gratuitous dodge rolls and then gone on the fear jog of shame for a few seconds wondering if it will be the end of me as I my stam bar seems to take forever to fill.
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Farorin✭✭✭✭✭hellkrasher wrote: »
Woow... ok men, this is so funny that i just cant... i just cant even start to talk about it... simple put, the worst pvp advice i read in this forum, at least in a long time.TheBonesXXX wrote: »I don't use fear, because the loss of stamina with a CC break is easily mitigated by stamina regen and stamina reduction abilities. Infact, the only stun I use is conceal weapons.
I do alright at PVP and I barely ever use Fear. All about that DPS, baby.1 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭Well one thing they should fix is LotusFan/Ambush. Since all the other Gap closers have a minimum range required, it should also be the same for Lotus Fan.1
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✭✭✭✭✭Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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he is correct cloak is by far the better escape tool than bolt escape (and i´m playing both classesScruffyWhiskers wrote: »
)ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »
push cloak over to your secondary bar and use mistform instead for innitial dmg avoidance. soul harvest is way to strong to be left out.
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Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"1 -
Unstable.Pixel✭✭✭Dueled plenty of Nightblades in IC, don't see the problem. Might need to try a different approach. Break invis = win.I swear to drunk i'm not god3 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭push cloak over to your secondary bar and use mistform instead for innitial dmg avoidance. soul harvest is way to strong to be left out.
I use cloak offensively though. Double Take + Concealed Speed Bonus + Cloak gets me into position and lets me maneuver to find the right target. I fight off my first bar. Second bar is only for escape and evasion or buff/quick heal. Weapon swapping during combat doesn't work very well for me. Don't know if it is my bad ping 150ish to 200 normal but I find it really unreliable....I weapon swap mapped to my mouse scroll button so it should work nicely but after a lot of trying I have given up and try and minimize swap.
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dRudE✭✭✭Any class is great when played by a good player, if your not then there's nightblade. Muahaha
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✭✭@Vatter Just re-roll a NB and you'll find out that its quite hard to play them.
I agree NBs have very useful passives and strong skills but they are also the most squishy class imo. Stam NBs will have high damage but limited fear and cloak, magicka NBs will have significantly lower damage but better utility with class abilities. Simply put, someone who can cloak a lot wont one-shot you and someone who can one-shot you cant cloak a lot.
Someone funny claimed Encase to be on par with Fear and Petrify because it works on blocking target, lol what? Encase is merely a root while Fear and Petrify are unblockable hard CC's, hard CC meaning you cant do anything until breaking the CC. Please get your facts strait.Edited by Septimus_Magna on August 10, 2015 1:51AMPC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
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Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭hellkrasher wrote: »
Woow... ok men, this is so funny that i just cant... i just cant even start to talk about it... simple put, the worst pvp advice i read in this forum, at least in a long time.TheBonesXXX wrote: »I don't use fear, because the loss of stamina with a CC break is easily mitigated by stamina regen and stamina reduction abilities. Infact, the only stun I use is conceal weapons.
actually I killed alot of very notable people on the PTS without fear and using agony.
you dont really need fear as much since of the blocking change yeah its amazing, it always will be but you dont need it,2 -
King Bozo✭✭✭Um throw caltrophs nb can't sneak. Caltrophs is under your alliance skills section. I throw caltrophs all the time to break there stealth. I am not sure what the problem is with nb or sorcs.3 -
Cagro✭✭✭If you haven't already I would highly suggest making or leveling up a NB for IC. It will be LIGHT YEARS beyond all other classes. lets take a look at why.
1. Most of the NB's are stacking armor penetration. All will have 25-30k armor penetration so even wearing 7 pieces of reinforced heavy armor and 100 CP's in heavy armor will give you no protection. Your armor will be reduced to 0.
2. Fear is without a doubt the best CC ability in the game. No other skill comes remotely close to it. It has a long animation so CC breaking is delayed and it even goes through block. THEN has an after effect of reduced speed AND reduced damage.
3. Shadow cloak mixed with path of darkness is the ultimate escape. You cannot target them, cannot attack them because they will be immune if you use detect pots, can't catch them (unless your a sorcerer then all you will be doing is aggroing npcs or use the insanely expensive retreating maneuver in which case you will just aggro npc's AND be short on stamina.) Mage light is worthless.
4. The damage reduction doesn't seem to be effecting the class at all. Because of the opportunity for so many escape options they are still stacking weapon damage through the roof. only requires an extra shot or (god forbid) 2.
5. Despite what many people try and say they can heal themselves more then fine. momentum, resolving vigor, resto staff bubble works better then my honor the dead.
LETS SUM UP.
1. unable to mitigate their damage
2. unable to block their damage
3. can't lock them down.
4. can't target them
5. best escapes (vanish)
6. cheapest ultimate
7. best mobility
8. best passives
9. able to fully heal themselves.
10. biggest damage dealer.
Definitely Roll a NB for IC. its a win.
I think a lot people are getting tired of this. except the nb community who of course will say L2P. To be quite honest I don't think I'll purchase IC with the state that classes are in. But thats just me.
1. Armor pen is going to be fixed
2.Immovable pots/break free/immovable heavy armor skill
3.Detect Pots (Immovable detect pots combines 2 & 3), snare skills, dots, aoe
4.I will admit they still hit hard, but now you have time to react (Speaking from a 5 light armor perspective)
5.Heal debuff
Dont forget this one
6.New and unexperienced NB's=Squish
Nightblades are not an easy class to play. I have alot of respect for those that play it well.
This ^. I main a NB and is very good at escaping. However, I think is harder to play than my Templar and Dragonknight.0 -
Xael✭✭✭✭✭If you haven't already I would highly suggest making or leveling up a NB for IC. It will be LIGHT YEARS beyond all other classes. lets take a look at why.
1. Most of the NB's are stacking armor penetration. All will have 25-30k armor penetration so even wearing 7 pieces of reinforced heavy armor and 100 CP's in heavy armor will give you no protection. Your armor will be reduced to 0.
2. Fear is without a doubt the best CC ability in the game. No other skill comes remotely close to it. It has a long animation so CC breaking is delayed and it even goes through block. THEN has an after effect of reduced speed AND reduced damage.
3. Shadow cloak mixed with path of darkness is the ultimate escape. You cannot target them, cannot attack them because they will be immune if you use detect pots, can't catch them (unless your a sorcerer then all you will be doing is aggroing npcs or use the insanely expensive retreating maneuver in which case you will just aggro npc's AND be short on stamina.) Mage light is worthless.
4. The damage reduction doesn't seem to be effecting the class at all. Because of the opportunity for so many escape options they are still stacking weapon damage through the roof. only requires an extra shot or (god forbid) 2.
5. Despite what many people try and say they can heal themselves more then fine. momentum, resolving vigor, resto staff bubble works better then my honor the dead.
LETS SUM UP.
1. unable to mitigate their damage
2. unable to block their damage
3. can't lock them down.
4. can't target them
5. best escapes (vanish)
6. cheapest ultimate
7. best mobility
8. best passives
9. able to fully heal themselves.
10. biggest damage dealer.
Definitely Roll a NB for IC. its a win.
I think a lot people are getting tired of this. except the nb community who of course will say L2P. To be quite honest I don't think I'll purchase IC with the state that classes are in. But thats just me.
1. How are most NBs stacking armor pen? Do you mean using Sharpened on maces? Almost every single melee does this regardless of class and most casters run sharpened or nirned.
2. There are other skills that go through block. I am guessing you don't PvP much seeing that Fossilize is not mentioned. Fear is strong yes, so are other skills that do the same thing.
3. I have yet to see a NB running Path of Darkness. Nobody is going to run this ability in IC. You will aggro a mob and die. Sorry, but no. Shadow Cloak does not make you immune to targeting. You can still be charged or nuked or hit with various weapon skill abilities. Also AoE works against Cloak. Cloak is not immune to detecting pots. Gina Bruno even went on record saying this (yet it does not stop people like you from stinking the place up with their lying and whining). Radiant Magelight is not worthless you have a 12m radius against most NBs. This is rather huge.
4. Maybe people like me or Kerviz who build for a silly yolo all or nothing opener. Most NBs don't build/play like this. Also regarding escape, see above #3. Also damage reduction does play a role and will do so even more after they fix Sharpened Maces. Also there are mobs everywhere.
5. NBs that stack weapon damage won't be using Resto. Resto is getting double nerfed with the shield reduction and healing reduction. Vigor costs more heals for less as does Rally. This statement like the other 4 before it is rather false and misleading. The only reason we heal up "more then fine" (your words) is because damage is a lot less.
Indeed Let's SUM UP!
1. Wrong. Everyone's damage can be mitigated, except those using Sharpened Maces (with the 2h/dw passive) which is any class.
2. Wrong. Most skills can be blocked or dodged.
3. Wrong. Nightblades like any class are susceptible to stuns and CC.
4. Wrong. Can target them just like any class.
5. All class can vanish with an invis pot which also has Major Expedition and lasts the length of 7 Cloaks... Dark Cloak by itself is pretty good though, no denying that.
6. Soul Harvest is pretty cheap (50), however Templar Aedric is 75 and Overload (sorc) is 75. Big deal. Moot.
7. Wrong. Sorcs have Boundless Storm. Everyone has access to Quick Cloak and Rapid Maneuvers and an Invis pot. This is moot.
8. Wrong. This is a biased statement as DKs have arguably the best passives in the game.
9. Wrong. ROFL? With what skill, Sap? Templars are the best healers followed by DKs. Sorcs and NBs don't have a way to self heal out of combat without a resto staff unless they have Vigor or Rally (every class has these).
10. Wrong. I can do as much damage on my Sorc or new DK as I can with an NB.
Definitely roll any class for IC and it will be a win if you are not bad at the game or zerg or lag killed.
OP is right, a lot of people are getting tired of this... this spreading of false information. I am quite glad this person won't be purchasing IC (though by his post he has never been on PTS or read the notes), however it's a shame this spirit still lives on through forum posting. As the old saying goes, "If you tell a lie loud enough, long enough, it eventually becomes truth."
Side note: OP your post was filled with tons of false and misleading statements. Also there are several in this thread posting false statements as well. The fact you have so many thumbs up shows how ignorant people are and willing to believe anything that excuses bad or uninformed playing.Edited by Xael on August 10, 2015 2:54AMI got killed in pvp, nerf everything...6 -
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✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »IxSTALKERxI wrote: »1. Any class can do this. (it's also getting fixed)
2. Petrify and Encase also work against blocking targets and unlike fear they can be used from range. Rune Prison is now instant cast which is pretty effective now since not many people hold block anyway (similar to agony).
3. There are many ways to break their cloak, gap closes, toss caltrops etc. It's also the classes main defensive ability...
4. Again, this is the same for all classes. Infact templar jabs damage doesn't get reduced by battle spirit as much as they should be (also getting fixed).
5. Once again, all classes can do this.
I don't know if this is a change that was intended but Agony on the PTS cannot be blocked, at least not from the NPCs, which it can on Live. Also I don't think you can block Rune Prison or am I wrong in thinking that?
Agony and Rune Prison are both instacast and unblockable now, but they break on dmg.
Petrify breaks on damage too and encase is possible to dodge out of, similar to talons. Yet damage does not break fear..
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3. I have yet to see a NB running Path of Darkness. Nobody is going to run this ability in IC. You will aggro a mob and die. Sorry, but no. Shadow Cloak does not make you immune to targeting. You can still be charged or nuked or hit with various weapon skill abilities. Also AoE works against Cloak. Cloak is not immune to detecting pots. Gina Bruno even went on record saying this (yet it does not stop people like you from stinking the place up with their lying and whining). Radiant Magelight is not worthless you have a 12m radius against most NBs. This is rather huge.
Gina said THIS ?
Gina Bruno ? Our Gina Bruno ? Bruno Mars>Mars is a planet> Planets are circles>A circle is a shape> a triangle is a shape> triangle=Illuminati= Gina Bruno=Illuminati ?
We're talking about this Gina Bruno ? I don't believe she said this
Edited by Dracane on August 10, 2015 1:42PMAuri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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omfgitsbatman✭✭✭✭If you haven't already I would highly suggest making or leveling up a NB for IC. It will be LIGHT YEARS beyond all other classes. lets take a look at why.
1. Most of the NB's are stacking armor penetration. All will have 25-30k armor penetration so even wearing 7 pieces of reinforced heavy armor and 100 CP's in heavy armor will give you no protection. Your armor will be reduced to 0.
2. Fear is without a doubt the best CC ability in the game. No other skill comes remotely close to it. It has a long animation so CC breaking is delayed and it even goes through block. THEN has an after effect of reduced speed AND reduced damage.
3. Shadow cloak mixed with path of darkness is the ultimate escape. You cannot target them, cannot attack them because they will be immune if you use detect pots, can't catch them (unless your a sorcerer then all you will be doing is aggroing npcs or use the insanely expensive retreating maneuver in which case you will just aggro npc's AND be short on stamina.) Mage light is worthless.
4. The damage reduction doesn't seem to be effecting the class at all. Because of the opportunity for so many escape options they are still stacking weapon damage through the roof. only requires an extra shot or (god forbid) 2.
5. Despite what many people try and say they can heal themselves more then fine. momentum, resolving vigor, resto staff bubble works better then my honor the dead.
LETS SUM UP.
1. unable to mitigate their damage
2. unable to block their damage
3. can't lock them down.
4. can't target them
5. best escapes (vanish)
6. cheapest ultimate
7. best mobility
8. best passives
9. able to fully heal themselves.
10. biggest damage dealer.
Definitely Roll a NB for IC. its a win.
I think a lot people are getting tired of this. except the nb community who of course will say L2P. To be quite honest I don't think I'll purchase IC with the state that classes are in. But thats just me.
1. Every stamina user does this.
2. Fear is blockable in IC
3. You are right about this one... Cloak is pretty good, but there are counters. Any Aoe skill breaks cloak. Caltrops is cloak's enemy. Flare destroys NB's as well.
4. Yes it is. All stamina users stack weapon damage through the roof.. I don't see your argument here.
5. Every other class can do all of these, but also have a class specific shield or heal.Edited by omfgitsbatman on August 10, 2015 1:45PMHe's the healer Tamriel deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hurt his tank. Because he can heal them to full. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful rejuvinator. A Cloaked Healer.
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Ticktick-Argonian Nightblade Healer/Magicka DPS
Tinytick- Imperial DK Tank
Wuches Y'Shaur- V16 High Elf Sorc Magicka DPS
Ticktator- Dunmer DK Magicka DPS
Tick Head- Dark Elf Magicka NB DPS
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✭If you haven't already I would highly suggest making or leveling up a NB for IC. It will be LIGHT YEARS beyond all other classes. lets take a look at why.
1. Most of the NB's are stacking armor penetration. All will have 25-30k armor penetration so even wearing 7 pieces of reinforced heavy armor and 100 CP's in heavy armor will give you no protection. Your armor will be reduced to 0.
2. Fear is without a doubt the best CC ability in the game. No other skill comes remotely close to it. It has a long animation so CC breaking is delayed and it even goes through block. THEN has an after effect of reduced speed AND reduced damage.
3. Shadow cloak mixed with path of darkness is the ultimate escape. You cannot target them, cannot attack them because they will be immune if you use detect pots, can't catch them (unless your a sorcerer then all you will be doing is aggroing npcs or use the insanely expensive retreating maneuver in which case you will just aggro npc's AND be short on stamina.) Mage light is worthless.
4. The damage reduction doesn't seem to be effecting the class at all. Because of the opportunity for so many escape options they are still stacking weapon damage through the roof. only requires an extra shot or (god forbid) 2.
5. Despite what many people try and say they can heal themselves more then fine. momentum, resolving vigor, resto staff bubble works better then my honor the dead.
LETS SUM UP.
1. unable to mitigate their damage
2. unable to block their damage
3. can't lock them down.
4. can't target them
5. best escapes (vanish)
6. cheapest ultimate
7. best mobility
8. best passives
9. able to fully heal themselves.
10. biggest damage dealer.
Definitely Roll a NB for IC. its a win.
I think a lot people are getting tired of this. except the nb community who of course will say L2P. To be quite honest I don't think I'll purchase IC with the state that classes are in. But thats just me.
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#1 above is why Armor Penetration needs to be a % value with a maximum. No amount of armor penetration a player has should EVER reduce another players armor to 0. Seriously what's the point in wearing any armor at all if this is going to be the case. This really needs to be changed with Imperial City otherwise the game will just continue to be broken.
What good is it to fix the issue with Sharpened Maces if players armor can still be dropped to 0??????
Either way, our armor will be worthless.NA Server - Kildair2
