Over 1 year later - Eidetic memory still not working flawless

Malediktus · August 2015

Hello,
over 1 year ago I created the thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/81050/eidetic-memory-bugged-to-uselessness-gamebreaking-possible-spoilers/p1 which is for some reason hidden now, despite updating it, it does not come back to the first page of the forums now.

So I repost it here:

About a month passed since I started over with a new character. I must say the eidetic memory is working better now, but far from flawless.

Points worth noting:
- Still no search feature, making it very hard to find the book you want to read with over 2,300 books ingame so far
- Some books are in the wrong category making it even more annoying to find them
- some books have a different name in the eidetic memory than you see in the open world when picking this up (might be a localisation issue, I play with language set to German)

Bugs:
- I came across a few books which still do not unlock
- Books you read from your quest inventory do not get added to the eidetic memory at all --> you have to hope that they spawn somewhere after you completed the quest which often is not the case
- Sometimes these "after quest" spawns are bugged and the books despawn when trying to pick them up or are not interactable at all

--> reaching 100% of the eidetic memory still physically impossible over 1 year after release

Also submitted this via /feedback ingame.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Demands / Threats]

KerinKor · August 2015

While I can understand see (though fail to understand why) you're very unhappy that this feature isn't working, the threat made in the last post isn't likely to enhance your chances at getting ZOS to look at it.

I remember being baffled by your original posting of this.

The fact you seem to have canceled before and had no effect should, I suggest, be an indication of what to expect now when you make a similar threat.

Malediktus · August 2015

Well voting with your money is the only thing corporations understand. And telling them why exactly you are voting with your wallet gives them the chance to fix the problem. Saying "I love your game but xyz could need improving" wont help either.

ZOS_RyanRuzich · August 2015

Malediktus wrote: »

Hello,
over 1 year ago I created the thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/81050/eidetic-memory-bugged-to-uselessness-gamebreaking-possible-spoilers/p1 which is for some reason hidden now, despite updating it, it does not come back to the first page of the forums now.

So I repost it here:

About a month passed since I started over with a new character. I must say the eidetic memory is working better now, but far from flawless.

Points worth noting:
- Still no search feature, making it very hard to find the book you want to read with over 2,300 books ingame so far
- Some books are in the wrong category making it even more annoying to find them
- some books have a different name in the eidetic memory than you see in the open world when picking this up (might be a localisation issue, I play with language set to German)

Bugs:
- I came across a few books which still do not unlock
- Books you read from your quest inventory do not get added to the eidetic memory at all --> you have to hope that they spawn somewhere after you completed the quest which often is not the case
- Sometimes these "after quest" spawns are bugged and the books despawn when trying to pick them up or are not interactable at all

--> reaching 100% of the eidetic memory still physically impossible over 1 year after release

You better fix these issues if you want me to spend money on your game, I wont buy any crows, DLC or ESO+ before this is not working flawlessly. You know I am not joking because I took a long break because of this after all and I can do it again.
Also submitted this via /feedback ingame.

@Malediktus - Greetings and salutations! Would you be willing to help with at least a bit more info?

Do you have any examples of books that are in the wrong category?
Examples of Books with different names in Eidetic memory than in world?
Examples of Books that do not unlock, and where you found them? Screenshots of the map/you at the book can help pinpoint the exact spots.
Examples of books in your quest inventory that don't get added? The name of the quest and the name of the item would be helpful.
Examples of books despawning "after quest" or non-interactable? Again, the name of the quest and location would be very helpful.
Examples of "blockers" preventing 100% completion?

sirinsidiator · August 2015

ZOS_RyanRuzich wrote: »

Examples of Books that do not unlock, and where you found them? Screenshots of the map/you at the book can help pinpoint the exact spots.

I am also quite interested in this getting fixed someday. I have reported some locations more than half a year ago but long given up since. Maybe you can look them up in my bug reports?
Also a lot of the books added with "newer" content like in Northern Craglorn or Vet City of Ash do not unlock.

Malediktus · August 2015

I usually report those problems with a bug report and say something like "The book next to me cannot be added to the eidetic memory because of (despawns/cant be interacted with/has no place in the eidetic memory". Is that the wrong way to do it? I assume not because the coords of my position gets transmitted during the bug report?
If thats not good enough I will start listing them here, though I will have to look up the English names of the books and the quests in the database because my language is set to German.

As a quick example I could list the books which spawn outside of the harbourage from the main quest line. Only 5 out of 10 of the quest instance related books/letters spawn there, and 4 of them despawn when trying to interact with them.
This bug is existing for both Ebonheart Pact and DC, so I assume when I reach the AD harbourage I encounter the same bug.

sirinsidiator · August 2015

I spent the last hour visiting some locations of books that I remember are missing from the Eidetic Memory.
Here are their title, zone and normalized coordinates on the Tamriel map.

Septima Tharn's Leadership Maxims - Bangkorai - 0.266434, 0.357210 or 0.307035, 0.327878
Code of the Baandari Pedlars - Bangkorai - 0.300476, 0.329485
Shalan's Note - Bangkorai - 0.307855, 0.356683
A Letter to Maraya - Stormhaven - 0.208716, 0.319089
Goodbye Note - Alik'r Desert - 0.182558, 0.386073
Imperial Refugee's Journal - Cyrodiil - 0.558174, 0.546029

Shalan's Note is also an example of a book that has a different title between the interaction label and the lore reader. It shows "Hurried Note" but the actual title passed from the API is "Shalan's Note".

To get a waypoint on the map, just open the map for all of Tamriel and enter the following line in chat replacing x, y with the coordinates:

/script PingMap(MAP_PIN_TYPE_PLAYER_WAYPOINT, MAP_TYPE_LOCATION_CENTERED, x, y)

e.g.

/script PingMap(MAP_PIN_TYPE_PLAYER_WAYPOINT, MAP_TYPE_LOCATION_CENTERED, 0.307035, 0.327878)

The Shrine of Mara also acts like a book (shows a stone tablet) but does not show in the Eidetic Memory.

If necessary I can also upload screenshots of the locations on the map.

Malediktus · August 2015

I came across the next missing book. In a quest in Koeglin (Stormhaven) you have to fetch a ledger from inside a ship. It is a readable quest item, but does not unlock in the eidetic memory (because of the bug mentioned in the starting post). And after the questline is over it seems to be spawning nowhere. At least I was unable to find it after what I consider an extensive search.

Malediktus · August 2015

Next one:
Quest: One Last Game
Location: Cloudy Rest Inn in Wayrest
Book: For Donel from Father

It does not seem to unlock and despawns after reading. Which is quite sad considering it is a nicely written piece.

Malediktus · August 2015

Next culprit:
After you finished the quests in Dreughside near Wayrest two quest item letters spawn in the top floor of the barrack house. But they are bugged and not interactable with.

Considering how many bugged letters/books there are in this game, a complete gamewide audit should be in order to catch them all. I am aware at over 2300 pieces that is a lot of work, but currently this whole eidetic memory looks like very sloppy work.

I also found 2 non quest related books in Stormhaven which do not get added to the eidetic memory, but I still need to look up the english names for them.

Lynx100 · August 2015

just an example of those damm quest inventory ones that are bugged... pretty much as the guy said there all bugged everysingle quest item book. =/

Malediktus · August 2015

I came across the next ones:

In the quest "Children of Yokuda" in Rivenspire. In the basement of the abandoned house are two pieces of paper which both do not seem to add to the eidetic memory (or add with a significantly changed name because I was not able to locate them in the eidetic memory).

BlackEar · August 2015

Please unlock all the notes so we can make an addon for all the ocations.

starkerealm · August 2015

Malediktus wrote: »

Hello,
over 1 year ago I created the thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/81050/eidetic-memory-bugged-to-uselessness-gamebreaking-possible-spoilers/p1 which is for some reason hidden now, despite updating it, it does not come back to the first page of the forums now.

This is called "sinking." It's a moderation tool that allows a forum's administrators to effectively kill a thread without resorting to a hard lock. It's useful in situations where one of the participants is engaging in excessive bumping, or where the thread is generating massive interactions between two or three participants, but isn't actually involved in a larger discussion.

Malediktus · August 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

Malediktus wrote: »

Hello,
over 1 year ago I created the thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/81050/eidetic-memory-bugged-to-uselessness-gamebreaking-possible-spoilers/p1 which is for some reason hidden now, despite updating it, it does not come back to the first page of the forums now.

This is called "sinking." It's a moderation tool that allows a forum's administrators to effectively kill a thread without resorting to a hard lock. It's useful in situations where one of the participants is engaging in excessive bumping, or where the thread is generating massive interactions between two or three participants, but isn't actually involved in a larger discussion.

Seems like a cheap trick to hide old bug reports from the public if you ask me.

starkerealm · August 2015

Malediktus wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Malediktus wrote: »

Hello,
over 1 year ago I created the thread http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/81050/eidetic-memory-bugged-to-uselessness-gamebreaking-possible-spoilers/p1 which is for some reason hidden now, despite updating it, it does not come back to the first page of the forums now.

This is called "sinking." It's a moderation tool that allows a forum's administrators to effectively kill a thread without resorting to a hard lock. It's useful in situations where one of the participants is engaging in excessive bumping, or where the thread is generating massive interactions between two or three participants, but isn't actually involved in a larger discussion.

Seems like a cheap trick to hide old bug reports from the public if you ask me.

It's a cheap trick to keep a thread from sitting on top of the forums when people are using have got way off topic. Or a thread has proved contentious over time, and people are likely to simply jump ship to other threads, or start a replacement up if you lock it.

It's just a general forum moderation tool.

Malediktus · August 2015

Next one:
Quest: Friend of Trolls in Rivenspire
You pick up a journal quest item, but reading it does not add it to the eidetic memory, also does not seem to spawn anywhere after quest is done

Malediktus · August 2015

Sadly I already have to report the next one:

Quest: The Assassin's List in Rivenspire
The "List of Targets" is a readable quest item and respawns at it's original location after completing the quest. Sadly upon interacting with it nothing happens so it cannot be added to the eidetic memory.

EDIT: the next one already

Quest: A Lucky Break in Rivenspire
The readable quest item "Nedras' Journal" does not seem to spawn anywhere after you complete the quest

Malediktus · August 2015

Next one:
Quest: A change of Heart
In the undercroft there is a tome about deadric portals. It does not get added to the eidetic memory upon reading.

I am quite sad that I have to do the most basic QA-Task here.

Lynx100 · September 2015

Is Malediktus your name in eso since where the same fraction/server ^^ stupid question i know haha and err i would post 100's of more missing ones but i dont see a fix coming anytime soon with the current issues going on

Maotti · September 2015

Also, "Daedra dossier:The titans" doesn't unlock either.