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It's official: crafting improvement is broken.
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Both of your odds are wrong (should be 1/4 and 7/8). Your sample size is so miniscule it's useless. What are you trying to prove?Three items at 75% chance of improvement. Odds: 1 in 3 will fail. Result: all three failed.
1 item at 12.5% chance of improvement: Odds: 1 in 1 will fail. Result: 1 passes.
Edited by Rosveen on August 5, 2015 12:26PM3 -
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I always max those passives out so it takes less tempers at 100%.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am used to seeing fate screwing with me, odds be damned.
Sixteen tries to get a 25% chance on something. Done that. Eight tries to get a 85% chance? Done that too. And even the 10% "oh, what the heck" chance which succeeded at the first try, I done that as well.
Point is, when you are improving something, and thereby risk loosing it, it makes no sense to go for anything less then 100%, juuust in case fate is feeling impish today... and yeah, passives help a lot there. Send your gear over to your crafting character, improve, send back - that's a good part of what the shared bank is for anyways, methinks...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭When something doesn't go how someone wants, they always see it as broken.
It's a percentage chance. Get the passives and use the tannins.Sweetrolls for all!
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Only two problems I see here:Three items at 75% chance of improvement. Odds: 1 in 3 will fail. Result: all three failed.
1 item at 12.5% chance of improvement: Odds: 1 in 1 will fail. Result: 1 passes.
1) you're not a ZOS employee so nothing you post is 'official'
2) you clearly don't understand statistics which is why what you posted is basically wrong.
Apart from that there seems nothing left to discuss here.
Edited by KerinKor on August 5, 2015 11:09AM3 -
Marenne✭✭✭75 % of chance mean that if you do it an infinite number of time you got 3/4 of stuff that upgrade but there's always a tiny tiny probality that even if you do it 1000 or even 10000 all the upgrade fails.Edited by Marenne on August 5, 2015 11:16AM0
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PoseidonEvil✭✭✭RNJesus does not like you very well lolIn-game ID: alchelvly
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NDwarf✭✭✭Well to be fair, according to Chaos Theory if you flip a coin you have a 40% chance of heads, 40% chance of tails, and a 10% chance that dinosaurs will run amok killing people. Thank the stars you didn't release dinosaurs with your attempt at crafting.
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It's not based on luck unless you chose it to be.Azurephoenix999 wrote: »Yeah, that's messed up. I think that the whole "based on luck" aspect of crafting needs to be done away with. I'm not sure what to replace it with though, any ideas?
I'm gonna build a car. I can use 100% of the right parts and fasteners (bolts, and such), or I can use 75% of the right parts and fasteners, or I can simply use 100% correct parts, but only use 75% of them.
Which one would you like to take for a drive?
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS0 -
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✭✭✭✭Azurephoenix999 wrote: »Yeah, that's messed up. I think that the whole "based on luck" aspect of crafting needs to be done away with. I'm not sure what to replace it with though, any ideas?
How about using enough materials to make it 100% chance.
Thats what I do; much less frustrating.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
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Hope499✭✭✭✭"It's official: crafting improvement is broken."
Post should be removed, there is nothing official about this.
One random player tested 3 items, so its official?
Is it also official that cats are guide animals, cuz I said so.
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..she is always setting booby traps!1