To be honest though, I know what you mean. But... I've just learned to deal with it and like some others have said in this post, there's always going to be ways of defeating another class like DKs, whether that be from 20+ yards, CCing, carefully kiting, etc.

The thing I love about PvP in this game is that it's not like PvP I've played in other games. I quite like how classes and builds aren't so "steam-lined" in a sense that everyone uses the same spells, because there's such a variety to choose from... Despite some classes with certain abilities can make the player seem invincible, it also comes down to skill of course now I'm not saying you are unskilled or anything like that, because I'm usually always losing vs DK tanks, especially being a vampire with no legendary gear or useful PvE set pieces like Engine, etc -- but I find ways to get them back. So I continue to experiment with different abilities all the time for certain situations I may find myself in.

I was so used to the mentality of other games' PvP, that it took some time to adjust and just accept that at times, you ARE going to die no matter what, nobody is immortal in ESO, not even the "best" sooo yeah. I die, complain about being one-shotted, like this:

And then just accept it and continue!

Yeah, the other classes are always the best.
I'm glad I play all of them.. muahaha.

As a Stamina Templar, i'd love to have the Spiked armour of the dk or Sorc shield for damage mitigation, never mind an awesome heal like GDB 'Templar heals suck on a stamina build'

All I have to mitigate damage is sun shield (which is terribad on a Stam Templar) and rolling... rolling + rolling to mitigate damage :-(

Roll on vicor becoming level 5 alliance in pvp :-)

DK is forced to be melee. NB have passive regen, crit dmg and crit chance, and are getting a huge buff next update.
Shut up kid

LandedEagle wrote: »

Here's an idea, let's make the TANK hit just as hard as a mage or nb. oh why not give the TANK access to mad heals aswell. Because his 20 k armour 20 k spell resist aren't enough. Oh and let's make it so he has some shields and mad reflect damage spells. Oh and let's give the craziest Cc you can get. Wtf are you thinking? He should be a sponge yes, but he should hit like a wet noodle, and should need a healer to heal.

Next broken point the mage. Let's give him several stackable shields and make him able to tank. Wtf. He should hit hard yes, but should be squishy as a worm.

While we point out broken things let's make it so the nb cannot stack the dodge abilities. And let's make it so when he hits somebody, he cannot stealth! The hit person can run and stealth but stupid nb will be visible for 5mins. And the actual ability to go invisible will cost you magic and then u will be hit out of stealth mynahs. Yep kool idea. Stupid.

And then there is a templar.... Give him the JESUS beam and CC. Lol ok mate, so he is a healer but hits as hard as a damaged. Yep makes sense.

Every body cries foul " play how you want to play" was zenimax's rope in for the game, and that at times it isnt , you read it in most qq threads of some sort or another.

then comes you yelling that these classes should have pre-defined roles and that things are not fair ? I agree in some regards to what you are saying, but the manner in which you convey these "enlightening facts" - did you know you too could have 20k armour and spell resist- simply put on some heavy armour

next point about mages, in regards to shields, yes shield stacking is a slight issue, but with all that light armour to make those shields so strong, they ARE as squishy as a worm

NB stealth has been broken since launch, so yeah. going invisible during combat has always cost magicka next pls.

Templar are great healers, radiant destruction was the only thing going for them (magicka side) reflective light travels as slow as f^&&, same with darkflare, jabs gives cc when not needed ( to all hit btw not just the last one who is knocked back) their reflective cc (eclipse) is breakable, AND RD has been nerfed to oblivion almost as often as the dk has been hit by the might nerf bat same as their only shield - which is derived from how much health you have not magicka

Thanks for playing you win the worlds smallest violin

DK>NB>Sorc>Temp>DK

dRudE wrote: »

My sorc wrecks everyone, my DK also wrecks everyone. I think it just comes down to the player, because my nb and Templar also wreck everyone

Some one needs to get off their high horse xD

Lets be honest your temp doesn't wreck anyone.

LandedEagle wrote: »

Here's an idea, let's make the TANK hit just as hard as a mage or nb. oh why not give the TANK access to mad heals aswell. Because his 20 k armour 20 k spell resist aren't enough. Oh and let's make it so he has some shields and mad reflect damage spells. Oh and let's give the craziest Cc you can get. Wtf are you thinking? He should be a sponge yes, but he should hit like a wet noodle, and should need a healer to heal.

Next broken point the mage. Let's give him several stackable shields and make him able to tank. Wtf. He should hit hard yes, but should be squishy as a worm.

While we point out broken things let's make it so the nb cannot stack the dodge abilities. And let's make it so when he hits somebody, he cannot stealth! The hit person can run and stealth but stupid nb will be visible for 5mins. And the actual ability to go invisible will cost you magic and then u will be hit out of stealth mynahs. Yep kool idea. Stupid.

And then there is a templar.... Give him the JESUS beam and CC. Lol ok mate, so he is a healer but hits as hard as a damaged. Yep makes sense.

So..every class but the nightblade is OP?

What a post....

Tanking sucks for pretty much EVERY CLASS in this game. It's already bad enough with no AOE taunt. But now it's about to suck even more with the nerf to blocking (thanks a lot, whiny PvPers).

So yeah, being a DK tank sucks too.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Well this is new a nb complaining about a dk... what?

Yout actually serious xD

He is correct. If this is May 2014.

What kills me about posts like this is how assertive and insistent a poster can be on something so subjective.

A player who plays a nightblade is complaining about every other class ... that's a good one!

Nightblades are responsible for over 1/3 of the kills on my DK in Cyrodiil, while other DKs account for almost 1/3 of the players I kill, while NB's less than 1/5th. I kill more sorcs than templars, but more templars kill me than sorcs but only by a slim margin.

Based on this, I'd say at the moment NBs have a clearly superior class to DKs, and really just about everyone else.

Try not to think of the ESO classes in terms of the traditional RPG roles, i.e. DK=Tank, Sorc=Damage Dealer, NB=Thief, Templar=Healer, but rather think of the ESO classes as distinct forms of martial arts, which can be applied to various roles.

All classes have some powerful abilities, that if used correctly can be potent, but can also be countered.

LandedEagle wrote: »

Here's an idea, let's make the TANK hit just as hard as a mage or nb. oh why not give the TANK access to mad heals aswell. Because his 20 k armour 20 k spell resist aren't enough. Oh and let's make it so he has some shields and mad reflect damage spells. Oh and let's give the craziest Cc you can get. Wtf are you thinking? He should be a sponge yes, but he should hit like a wet noodle, and should need a healer to heal.

Next broken point the mage. Let's give him several stackable shields and make him able to tank. Wtf. He should hit hard yes, but should be squishy as a worm.

While we point out broken things let's make it so the nb cannot stack the dodge abilities. And let's make it so when he hits somebody, he cannot stealth! The hit person can run and stealth but stupid nb will be visible for 5mins. And the actual ability to go invisible will cost you magic and then u will be hit out of stealth mynahs. Yep kool idea. Stupid.

And then there is a templar.... Give him the JESUS beam and CC. Lol ok mate, so he is a healer but hits as hard as a damaged. Yep makes sense.

You have very narrow minded thinking. Let me broaden your spectrum Here

DK's Can be Tanks, Healer or DPS
Sorcs Can be Tanks, Healers or DPS
NB's Can be Tanks, Healers or DPS
Templars Can be Tanks Healer or DPS

Your narrow mindedness makes you think ONLY DK's should be tanks, and ONLY Templars are Healers..WRONG

DK's and Temps can be built for damage or bulkiness or both, because they lack the ability to escape, they just have to duke it out. They have natural tankyness because of this.

Sorcs and NB excell in PvP for damage dealers, and are great escapist, because they are not usually as tanky. The only point I agree here is the Sorcs impenetrable damage shield.


Look I've played NB for over 1700 hours, if you can't see the HUGE advanced NB's have in the IC right now you are blind. I also play ALOT with my Dragonight Mage, who is a dps toon and Yea he can be bulky but not straight tank since he is dps. And I have two templars. You are clearly falling to see how dynamic classes can be played, and if you expect to play the next patch, I hate to inform you but you will need to be dynamic.

And dont talk about a jesus beam when you fail to mention your spectral bow and its buff. I only feel sorry for you because you must suck as a NB when you could be Extremely good.

Do I smell whinesupe...