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Drop Racial Passives completely?
SlayerTheDragon
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Drop Racial Passives completely? 106 votes
Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
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54 votes
Drop them all, so that all race choices are equal
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18 votes
I have another idea...
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34 votes
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Nebthet78✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How about NO,
It's part of what makes our characters Unique and further separates us from just different classes.Far too many characters to list any more.12 -
Tectonaut✭✭✭I have another idea...If I want to be the best mage, I will be high elf, not the orc... If I want to be the best sumo wrestler, I will be big man, not the runt.1
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Psychobunni✭✭✭✭✭
✭Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passivesJust no, to me this is worse than asking for no "classes". You can play any role you want, with any race you want, there was never a guarantee that you can be the best at it or even as good as another...only that you can
Edit: I blame this way of thinking on Skyrim and not MMO's. You can play whatever you want, set to easy and faceroll through the game (my 6 year old does it)...now in a setting against other players that made race choices that "made sense" for their role(s) instead of "I always play xxxx", they want that same easy mode.
What is the point of different races if they have no defining characteristics?Edited by Psychobunni on August 4, 2015 7:23AMIf options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!0 -
Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭LOL NO?
Where is the NO option?
Also remember that ZOS is planning a crown race change. While implementing that they will introduce more "balances" to racial passives, or rather more whine-nerfs.
So just because they did some minor changes right now, it doesnt mean it will stay like that forever.1 -
J2JMC✭✭✭✭✭MaximusDargus wrote: »LOL NO?
Where is the NO option?
Also remember that ZOS is planning a crown race change. While implementing that they will introduce more "balances" to racial passives, or rather more whine-nerfs.
So just because they did some minor changes right now, it doesnt mean it will stay like that forever.
Are you really trying to pretend that argonians are in a good spot lmao? Also who are they nerfing? Every class in update 7 is either getting buffed or staying the same.
Also no thanks to changing racial passives.Knee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD
Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP
"Apparently the players are more informed than we are"-Richard Lambert0 -
Aquanova✭✭✭✭✭Drop them all, so that all race choices are equalDROP EM!......let us choose!NA/PC0
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Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭Someone who claims that all races should be equal is really naive.
You are telling me that for example a Khajit who have different body construction should have absolutely same affinity to some activities when compared for example to orc?
Are you trying to tell me that a High Elf who can live for god knows how long is suppose to be equal to a for example simple human redguard?
Racial passives are a must.0 -
RSram✭✭✭✭✭I have another idea...I wouldn't drop the racial passives, but they don't add any advantage once you get to the end game and start earning CP.
What I'd like to see is the racial passives increase traumatically and have the identical ones removed from the CP so that the race your pick does make a difference.Edited by RSram on August 4, 2015 8:36AM0 -
AngryNord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have another idea...I am in favour of this, but only if they at the same time shut the game down, and then re-launch it under a completely new name with absolutely every referance to the Elder Scrolls removed.1 -
RizaHawkeye✭✭✭✭Biased much?
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
The heroes during times of war, are nothing but mass murderers during times of peace.
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Learn to play, or resign to become one of pieces that is meant to be sacrificed.
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SlayerTheDragon✭✭✭✭✭Drop them all, so that all race choices are equalCan wait to see the fresh tide of Nords appearing in the next patch ... oh wait.¤═══¤ People don't like it when you talk to them with your weapon drawn ¤═══¤0
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Shinra✭✭✭I want another option to vote:
"Make polls neutral next time"
I mean, really. My vote on this will be
"Racials are fine, even if they are more or less unbalanced."2 -
Lucius_Aelius✭✭✭✭Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passivesNo, if anything they should increase the stats on Racial passives (at least a bit) to make them matter even more. It makes sense to have each race have its own strengths, taking that away would be watering down this game to a ridiculous degree.Daggerfall Covenant - Scourge (Xbox NA) - GT: Lucius Aelius - Lord - 648CP
Lucius Aelius Aurelius - 50 Imperial Dragonknight - Centurion - Stam Tank
Lucius Aelius Valerius - 50 Imperial Templar - Lieutenant - Mag Heal/DPS
Lucius Aelius Regulus - 50 Imperial Nightblade - First Sergeant - Stam DPS
Lucius Aelius Augustus - 50 Imperial Sorcerer - Corporal - Mag DPS
Wags-His-Tail - 20 Argonian Sorcerer - Recruit - TBD
Holds-The-Line - 40 Argonian Dragonknight - Recruit - TBD
Carries-Extra-Gear - 4 Argonian Dragonknight - Recruit - TBD
Guildmaster - Wardens of the Covenant
Group Leader - xpThe Guildxp
Trader - Secret Sauce
Trader - Elite Dungeoneers0 -
Malediktus✭✭✭✭No. I like that races are different. I dont want races to be as boring as in Guild Wars 2 where its all cosmetic.Edited by Malediktus on August 4, 2015 10:19AM@Malediktus --- Ebonheart Pact, EU-Megaserver1 -
Olivierko✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »No! Drop Racial passives, drop CP nerf, nerf, nerf, where does it end?
It ends at drop users from forum, and I believe we're ready to take that step.Addons: ★ Pointificator ★ Raidificator ★- Dar'diov ★ AvA 25 ★ Nightblade
- Tig'ger ★ AvA 9 ★ Dragonknight
- Ba'bushka ★ AvA 28 ★ Sorcerer
- Hails-To-Putin ★ AvA 18 ★ Templar
- Ba'boon ★ AvA 13 ★ Sorcerer
- PC EU ★ Aldmeri Dominion ★ Youtube
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Anzriel✭✭✭✭Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passivesTequilaFire wrote: »No! Drop Racial passives, drop CP nerf, nerf, nerf, where does it end?
It doesn't end. For some people games exist simply to QQ about them. As for racial passives I say keep them and improve upon some of the weaker races so people actually have a non-RP reason to choose them.
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Drakk89815✭✭Yeah sorry there should be a "no" option. Racial passives are a classic part of Elder Scrolls. To remove them would take it even further away from the history of the series.Xbox One - Drakk898150 -
Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have another idea...Keep them as is.
Biased poll is biased.
v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
v14 DK Costs
v14 NB 'Vis
v14 Temp Fiat Lux6 -
Zsymon✭✭✭✭Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passivesI would make racial passives even stronger, for more flavor.1
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don´t know what to say when ppl don´t even try to hide their own agenda with the creation of polls.<Noricum>
I live. I die. I live again.
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Rosveen✭✭✭✭✭
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You can roll any race/class combination and faceroll through the content in ESO, it's no different from Skyrim in this aspect. Racials only really matter to competitive min-maxers.Psychobunni wrote: »Just no, to me this is worse than asking for no "classes". You can play any role you want, with any race you want, there was never a guarantee that you can be the best at it or even as good as another...only that you can
Edit: I blame this way of thinking on Skyrim and not MMO's. You can play whatever you want, set to easy and faceroll through the game (my 6 year old does it)...now in a setting against other players that made race choices that "made sense" for their role(s) instead of "I always play xxxx", they want that same easy mode.
What is the point of different races if they have no defining characteristics?Edited by Rosveen on August 4, 2015 11:38AM1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
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You can roll any race/class combination and faceroll through the content in ESO, it's no different from Skyrim in this aspect. Racials only really matter to competitive min-maxers.Psychobunni wrote: »Just no, to me this is worse than asking for no "classes". You can play any role you want, with any race you want, there was never a guarantee that you can be the best at it or even as good as another...only that you can
Edit: I blame this way of thinking on Skyrim and not MMO's. You can play whatever you want, set to easy and faceroll through the game (my 6 year old does it)...now in a setting against other players that made race choices that "made sense" for their role(s) instead of "I always play xxxx", they want that same easy mode.
What is the point of different races if they have no defining characteristics?
You'd be suprised at how much races mean at end game pve or end game pvp content.
PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
Kleptobrainiac✭✭✭I have another idea...NO NO NO NO NO NO.
NO.The artist formerly known as StaticWax.0 -
FilthyMudcrabs✭✭✭Drop them all, so that all race choices are equalThey're never going to get it right - so go ahead and drop them.Saw a mudcrab the other day. Dreadful creatures.0
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Rinmaethodain✭✭✭✭✭
✭PVPers will always whine about every single thing, including racial passives.
They will whine untill everyone in pvp are playing as shapeless blobs of exact same dimension, without any skill and with 1 health, 1 stamina, 1 magicka. No equipment, no racial passives only bloby-fist-fight. Whoever pokes the other person first, wins. And everyone ping is upscaled to 1000 to make it fair to everyone.
even then PVPers will find something to whine about.
Because noone ever in PVE complains that thanks to the fact his group mate is a high elf and can cast spells more and better, they could finish boss and whole run faster and with less casualties.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have another idea...Leave them as they are, and learn to adapt to the changing nature of MMOs without expecting every single aspect to be finely balanced.0
