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Drop Racial Passives completely?

SlayerTheDragon
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Edited by SlayerTheDragon on August 4, 2015 5:40AM
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Drop Racial Passives completely? 106 votes

Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
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Drop them all, so that all race choices are equal
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I have another idea...
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  • Nebthet78
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    How about NO,

    It's part of what makes our characters Unique and further separates us from just different classes.
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  • Sadishist
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    This is so racist.
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  • Tectonaut
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    I have another idea...
    If I want to be the best mage, I will be high elf, not the orc... If I want to be the best sumo wrestler, I will be big man, not the runt.
  • Psychobunni
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    Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
    Just no, to me this is worse than asking for no "classes". You can play any role you want, with any race you want, there was never a guarantee that you can be the best at it or even as good as another...only that you can


    Edit: I blame this way of thinking on Skyrim and not MMO's. You can play whatever you want, set to easy and faceroll through the game (my 6 year old does it)...now in a setting against other players that made race choices that "made sense" for their role(s) instead of "I always play xxxx", they want that same easy mode.

    What is the point of different races if they have no defining characteristics?
    Edited by Psychobunni on August 4, 2015 7:23AM
    If options weren't necessary, and everyone played the same way, no one would use addons. Fix the UI!

  • Rinmaethodain
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    LOL NO?

    Where is the NO option?

    Also remember that ZOS is planning a crown race change. While implementing that they will introduce more "balances" to racial passives, or rather more whine-nerfs.

    So just because they did some minor changes right now, it doesnt mean it will stay like that forever.
  • J2JMC
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    LOL NO?

    Where is the NO option?

    Also remember that ZOS is planning a crown race change. While implementing that they will introduce more "balances" to racial passives, or rather more whine-nerfs.

    So just because they did some minor changes right now, it doesnt mean it will stay like that forever.

    Are you really trying to pretend that argonians are in a good spot lmao? Also who are they nerfing? Every class in update 7 is either getting buffed or staying the same.

    Also no thanks to changing racial passives.
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  • Aquanova
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    Drop them all, so that all race choices are equal
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  • Durban
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    I have another idea...
    Where's the no option.
  • Rinmaethodain
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    Someone who claims that all races should be equal is really naive.

    You are telling me that for example a Khajit who have different body construction should have absolutely same affinity to some activities when compared for example to orc?

    Are you trying to tell me that a High Elf who can live for god knows how long is suppose to be equal to a for example simple human redguard?

    Racial passives are a must.
  • RSram
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    I have another idea...
    I wouldn't drop the racial passives, but they don't add any advantage once you get to the end game and start earning CP.

    What I'd like to see is the racial passives increase traumatically and have the identical ones removed from the CP so that the race your pick does make a difference.
    Edited by RSram on August 4, 2015 8:36AM
  • AngryNord
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    I have another idea...
    I am in favour of this, but only if they at the same time shut the game down, and then re-launch it under a completely new name with absolutely every referance to the Elder Scrolls removed.
  • Alucardo
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    Wtf no way. Do you even Elder Scrolls bruh?
  • RizaHawkeye
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    Biased much?

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  • SlayerTheDragon
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    Drop them all, so that all race choices are equal
    Can wait to see the fresh tide of Nords appearing in the next patch ... oh wait.
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  • Shinra
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    I want another option to vote:

    "Make polls neutral next time"

    I mean, really. My vote on this will be

    "Racials are fine, even if they are more or less unbalanced."
  • Lucius_Aelius
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    Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
    No, if anything they should increase the stats on Racial passives (at least a bit) to make them matter even more. It makes sense to have each race have its own strengths, taking that away would be watering down this game to a ridiculous degree.
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  • Malediktus
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    No. I like that races are different. I dont want races to be as boring as in Guild Wars 2 where its all cosmetic.
    Edited by Malediktus on August 4, 2015 10:19AM
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  • TequilaFire
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    No! Drop Racial passives, drop CP nerf, nerf, nerf, where does it end?
  • Olivierko
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    No! Drop Racial passives, drop CP nerf, nerf, nerf, where does it end?

    It ends at drop users from forum, and I believe we're ready to take that step.
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  • Anzriel
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    Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
    No! Drop Racial passives, drop CP nerf, nerf, nerf, where does it end?

    It doesn't end. For some people games exist simply to QQ about them. As for racial passives I say keep them and improve upon some of the weaker races so people actually have a non-RP reason to choose them.
  • Drakk89815
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    Yeah sorry there should be a "no" option. Racial passives are a classic part of Elder Scrolls. To remove them would take it even further away from the history of the series.
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  • Vis
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    I have another idea...
    Keep them as is.

    Biased poll is biased.

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  • Zsymon
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    Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
    I would make racial passives even stronger, for more flavor.
  • Derra
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    I don´t know what to say when ppl don´t even try to hide their own agenda with the creation of polls.
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  • Rosveen
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    Just no, to me this is worse than asking for no "classes". You can play any role you want, with any race you want, there was never a guarantee that you can be the best at it or even as good as another...only that you can


    Edit: I blame this way of thinking on Skyrim and not MMO's. You can play whatever you want, set to easy and faceroll through the game (my 6 year old does it)...now in a setting against other players that made race choices that "made sense" for their role(s) instead of "I always play xxxx", they want that same easy mode.

    What is the point of different races if they have no defining characteristics?
    You can roll any race/class combination and faceroll through the content in ESO, it's no different from Skyrim in this aspect. Racials only really matter to competitive min-maxers.
    Edited by Rosveen on August 4, 2015 11:38AM
  • leepalmer95
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    Try, try, try again to rebalance racial passives
    Rosveen wrote: »
    Just no, to me this is worse than asking for no "classes". You can play any role you want, with any race you want, there was never a guarantee that you can be the best at it or even as good as another...only that you can


    Edit: I blame this way of thinking on Skyrim and not MMO's. You can play whatever you want, set to easy and faceroll through the game (my 6 year old does it)...now in a setting against other players that made race choices that "made sense" for their role(s) instead of "I always play xxxx", they want that same easy mode.

    What is the point of different races if they have no defining characteristics?
    You can roll any race/class combination and faceroll through the content in ESO, it's no different from Skyrim in this aspect. Racials only really matter to competitive min-maxers.

    You'd be suprised at how much races mean at end game pve or end game pvp content.
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  • Kleptobrainiac
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    I have another idea...
    NO NO NO NO NO NO.

    NO.
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  • FilthyMudcrabs
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    Drop them all, so that all race choices are equal
    They're never going to get it right - so go ahead and drop them.
    Saw a mudcrab the other day. Dreadful creatures.
  • Rinmaethodain
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    PVPers will always whine about every single thing, including racial passives.

    They will whine untill everyone in pvp are playing as shapeless blobs of exact same dimension, without any skill and with 1 health, 1 stamina, 1 magicka. No equipment, no racial passives only bloby-fist-fight. Whoever pokes the other person first, wins. And everyone ping is upscaled to 1000 to make it fair to everyone.

    even then PVPers will find something to whine about.

    Because noone ever in PVE complains that thanks to the fact his group mate is a high elf and can cast spells more and better, they could finish boss and whole run faster and with less casualties.
  • Tandor
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    I have another idea...
    Leave them as they are, and learn to adapt to the changing nature of MMOs without expecting every single aspect to be finely balanced.
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