When can we expect race changes?

vote4ren · August 2015

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

Gidorick · August 2015

I think that'll be part of an incremental upgrade... maybe a Crown Store update.

OzJohnD · August 2015

No time is wasted .. only missed opportunities to regret

Eriquito3 · August 2015

You can expect it in the same patch text chat for console comes out.

vote4ren · August 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

I think that'll be part of an incremental upgrade... maybe a Crown Store update.

That's what I'm hoping for. I just wish it would be soon. Khajit nightblade has been driving me crazy

Ishta · August 2015

Same. Confirmation of this would really help for those of us who are unsure whether to keep moving forward on our existing character or start from scratch and risk burning out.

vote4ren · August 2015

Ishta wrote: »

Same. Confirmation of this would really help for those of us who are unsure whether to keep moving forward on our existing character or start from scratch and risk burning out.

If I had to level another nightblade I think I would def burn out. I have one at vet 7 now

FrostGolem · August 2015

100% agree i am a vet 4 khajit nightblade and I do not want to make another just for a different race i get if this will cost gold but i think this will be great

FrostGolem · August 2015

i was honestly about to make this post then saw yours

vote4ren · August 2015

FrostGolem wrote: »

100% agree i am a vet 4 khajit nightblade and I do not want to make another just for a different race i get if this will cost gold but i think this will be great

Yea I mean it would probably cost crowns. But yea I just bought the imperial version and I need to make an imperial nightblade.

dday3six · August 2015

A couple of ESO lives ago (think it was 21) Eric mentioned they were working on it, but said nothing about ETA.

EQBallzz · August 2015

vote4ren wrote: »

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

It's coming as soon as they can finalize how to monetize it in the P2W shop. This takes a while because they have to do market research and focus testing to find the exact right amount to gouge players such that it will be outrageously expensive and yet people will still pay for it. It's a delicate balance that needs to be just right for maximum fleecing!

Valrien · August 2015

EQBallzz wrote: »

vote4ren wrote: »

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

It's coming as soon as they can finalize how to monetize it in the P2W shop. This takes a while because they have to do market research and focus testing to find the exact right amount to gouge player such that it will be outrageously expensive and yet people will still pay for it. It's delicate balance that needs to be just right for maximum fleecing!

P2W?

Troneon · August 2015

Racial changes, a new updated guild store / auction horse system, fixed lfg tool...

The main things I wish ESO had...

vote4ren · August 2015

Yea I've seen games like wow take 4-5 years for it to come up. I'm hoping it's not the same for this game.

notimetocare · August 2015

vote4ren wrote: »

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

Hopefully never.

Zorrashi · August 2015

I would hope a race change never comes, but if it does I hope the ability to change race is severely limited. As in only able to change race twice a year limited.

Rev Rielle · August 2015

notimetocare wrote: »

vote4ren wrote: »

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

Hopefully never.

Why hopefully never? Introducing it will:
a) Increase revenue for the game,
b) Provide a service in-game that many players have asked for,
c) Have no impact on anyone not wanting to purchase/use the option.

It is not as if it's something new asked for, or something unique to give an advantage to a character that's only obtained through the Crown Store. There are already hundreds of every class/race combination in-game already.

Alucardo · August 2015

I'd love race changes too. Currently I have a VR1 stamina sorc (Imperial), but what if I want to go magicka? ESO gives us the freedom to do this without rolling a new character, of course, but what's the point if I'm an Imperial? A High Elf or Breton, even Dark Elf would suit this better. So I won't buy the skill and attribute reset utility. If there were a race change, I'd most likely purchase that and reset my skills/attributes.

EQBallzz · August 2015

Valrien wrote: »

EQBallzz wrote: »

vote4ren wrote: »

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

It's coming as soon as they can finalize how to monetize it in the P2W shop. This takes a while because they have to do market research and focus testing to find the exact right amount to gouge player such that it will be outrageously expensive and yet people will still pay for it. It's delicate balance that needs to be just right for maximum fleecing!

P2W?

Yep. That's what I call it because that's what it will turn into. It may not really be P2W now (debatable with pots and motifs) but we all know that's where it's going because they will need to keep the cash flow going so "convenience" items will get more and more "convenient" as time goes on which will inevitably mean more powerful (P2W).

Zorrashi · August 2015

Rev Rielle wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

vote4ren wrote: »

I'm hoping for a response from a dev. I was really hoping for this option to be added this DLC..guess not. I'm so tempted to reroll another nightblade just for a different race but I don't want to waste my time and then all of a sudden they add it. Is there any way that a dev can announce whether or not this will be coming soon?

Hopefully never.

Why hopefully never? Introducing it will:
a) Increase revenue for the game,

So would selling VR14 characters and endgame gear, but that doesn't mean that they should add it to the cash shop just so they can increase revenue. I don't want to give ZOS the impression that they can put a price tag on just about everything just because they can. While a business is indeed supposed to gain revenue, there is such a thing as standards for even they if they wish to retain their buyer base in the long run.
Now with that being said, I do concede that race change in the cash shop isn't as bad as an insta-leveled character or top gear, but I still maintain the stance that the cash shop shouldn't offer even marginal benefits to character strength (racial passives in this case) just because people are willing to pay real cash for it.

Rev Rielle wrote: »

c) Have no impact on anyone not wanting to purchase/use the option.
[...]

Actually I beg to differ. Race change for reasons beyond the physical appearance impacts the way the community (or certain portions of it) act. I do not want to encourage the FOTM-mentality by permitting race change so casually. Or at least not without severe restrictions.

J2JMC · August 2015

All ya'll talking sweet on the khajit nightblade just aren't playing it correctly. If you would prefer another race, by all means, go ahead and switch. But don't act like the Kritblade, our lord and savior, is bad because you don't play to it's strengths.

srs121 · August 2015

Race changes? Really... Personally I am opposed to being able to change your race whenever you feel like it.

If you made a decision on what you wanted to be for a specific character you either... Live with it or restart. If you could change your race whenever you pleased then you would change before every dungeon you entered so you could get some racial passives towArds a specific element of damage.

I feel the same about being able to change your class type.

Honestly, when making a character you should think about it, consider racial passives with your specific class choice, how can these benefit or hinder what I'm trying to do. Not just click and go... And start playing. Don't just read a couple players opinions on class and race selection and then decide..yep I'm going to do what they did cause they said it was the best or good. I have found that when comparing several opinions, and adding my own ideas with it... It usually results in a decision that I am happy with and enjoy.

Also keep in mind that they are Doing racial changes with the imperial city dlc/patch,

G0ku · August 2015

CheeseDivinity wrote: »

I'd love race changes too. Currently I have a VR1 stamina sorc (Imperial), but what if I want to go magicka? ESO gives us the freedom to do this without rolling a new character, of course, but what's the point if I'm an Imperial? A High Elf or Breton, even Dark Elf would suit this better. So I won't buy the skill and attribute reset utility. If there were a race change, I'd most likely purchase that and reset my skills/attributes.

Imperials are not the worst for playing a magicka class. You can invest all attributes and enchantements into magicka and you still have enough HP to do any trial...

It´s also the best class if you switch between stamina and magicka builds now and then...

vote4ren · August 2015

J2JMC wrote: »

All ya'll talking sweet on the khajit nightblade just aren't playing it correctly. If you would prefer another race, by all means, go ahead and switch. But don't act like the Kritblade, our lord and savior, is bad because you don't play to it's strengths.

Nobody said the khajit isn't a good nightblade. I'm just tired of being a ***. I don't need a tail.

dday3six · August 2015

srs121 wrote: »

Race changes? Really... Personally I am opposed to being able to change your race whenever you feel like it.

If you made a decision on what you wanted to be for a specific character you either... Live with it or restart. If you could change your race whenever you pleased then you would change before every dungeon you entered so you could get some racial passives towArds a specific element of damage.

I feel the same about being able to change your class type.

Honestly, when making a character you should think about it, consider racial passives with your specific class choice, how can these benefit or hinder what I'm trying to do. Not just click and go... And start playing. Don't just read a couple players opinions on class and race selection and then decide..yep I'm going to do what they did cause they said it was the best or good. I have found that when comparing several opinions, and adding my own ideas with it... It usually results in a decision that I am happy with and enjoy.

Also keep in mind that they are Doing racial changes with the imperial city dlc/patch,

The problem I've always seen with this line of thinking is how is a person suppose evaluate their choices longterm when ZOS can and will make changes in the future.

I'll give you an example. I rolled a Redguard rather than an Imperial or Wood Elf ultimately because of the interaction between Caltrops and Adrenaline Rush. With update 7 that interaction is staled to change, and with that I would prefer to be another race at this point.

Artis · August 2015

srs121 wrote: »

Race changes? Really... Personally I am opposed to being able to change your race whenever you feel like it.

If you made a decision on what you wanted to be for a specific character you either... Live with it or restart. If you could change your race whenever you pleased then you would change before every dungeon you entered so you could get some racial passives towArds a specific element of damage.

I feel the same about being able to change your class type.

Honestly, when making a character you should think about it, consider racial passives with your specific class choice, how can these benefit or hinder what I'm trying to do. Not just click and go... And start playing. Don't just read a couple players opinions on class and race selection and then decide..yep I'm going to do what they did cause they said it was the best or good. I have found that when comparing several opinions, and adding my own ideas with it... It usually results in a decision that I am happy with and enjoy.

Also keep in mind that they are Doing racial changes with the imperial city dlc/patch,

First off, you only see passives after you created a character, just saying.
Secondly, it's not our fault that ZOS changed mechanics completely with Update 7. Sure, some of us "If you made a decision on what you wanted to be for a specific character".. However, after they removed softcaps, rules changed. And what was a well-thought decision on release is now a huge mistake. You see, I probably wouldn't even mind restarting, but I have almost 13K achievements... Why should I suffer for something that wasn't really my fault? If they at least made achievements, mounts, pvp ranks etc account-wide, maybe restarting would be such a horrible option. Now it's not even an option.

Regarding classes, their descriptions are misleading, besides, once again, ZoS changes the way they perform all the time. It's unfair that we pay money and then suffer because of their very arguable decisions.

Gamertaglemieux · August 2015

Valrien wrote: »

P2W?

@Valrien
P2W = Pay to Win.

Basically means players are able to drop real world cash into a game and you get super overpowered items and become a god. It is insanely unbalanced and simply ruins a game.

TheShadowScout · August 2015

Last thing I heard on the matter was they want to want and see how thing swork after the racial changes coming with IC, then decide if and how they will go about it.

My personal opinion? Someday race change will come to the crown store. Hopefully at a hefty price to discourage FotM chasers. Likely as part of some character recustomization DLC.

Mitchblue · August 2015

If it costs crowns/real money it will benefit the ones who can afford it so PVP it becomes P2W.

Rinmaethodain · August 2015

Looking forward to this change. They start to mingle with racial bonuses, they should allow a change for people who are at point of game where you just dont restart your char.