Something I forgot to add to the original post. Alts would also be useful due to the fact that aren't nearly enough skill points to obtain all skills.

I ask this because after a while, it gets rather tiresome running the same quests and listening to same stories over and over again. Playing alts is really annoying from story perspective since we see all of it on a single character, even the different factions' storylines.

Stealthbr wrote: »

Hello everyone. I have been playing ESO since beta and one thing that bugs me is how we can't learn every single skill in the game unless we make alts. Of course, I am referring to the fact that players are locked into a specific class since the beginning of the game. This I would say directly goes against one of the most defining aspects of Elder Scrolls series, which alows players to experience all a game has to offer in a single character. I have played both Oblivion and Skyrim, and they allowed me to train every single skill, so why is it that the same can't be done in ESO?

I realize that mixing and matching skills from 2 or more classes could present balance issues, so why not make them mutually exclusive? Meaning, allow players access to every single class skill tree in the game, but if they equipped say a Dragonknight skill on one of their hotbars, then they would not be able to equip skills from other classes unless they replaced that Dragonknight skill. This would allow for maximum customization while still retaining class uniqueness and preserving class balance. Also, min/maxers that already have one of each class at max level would still have much use for their alts due to champion points and racials.

What do you all think?

so you want to be able to play alts on just one character? you wouldnt have enough skills points to keep all of those skills youd have to respec each time making it just silly and the only logical course would be to just make a total of 4 toons one for each class.

Wouldn't spellcrafting cover what you want ??

newtinmpls wrote: »

I'd prefer to disable classes and have all skill lines available to everyone.

This would result in every min/maxer choosing the same 5 skills because those are the ones that are most powerfull. They would also all be wearing the same gear and hit with 25k dps.

Not my preferance.

Maybe fun for a little while, but becomes boring pretty quick I think.

The Uninvited wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

I'd prefer to disable classes and have all skill lines available to everyone.

This would result in every min/maxer choosing the same 5 skills because those are the ones that are most powerfull. They would also all be wearing the same gear and hit with 25k dps.

Not my preferance.

People always say this.

It would result in lots of people copying builds just like they do now, however, given the variety of skills, it is easy to create counter-builds. It would create a constantly changing scene of FOTM in my opinion.

Frawr wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

I'd prefer to disable classes and have all skill lines available to everyone.

This would result in every min/maxer choosing the same 5 skills because those are the ones that are most powerfull. They would also all be wearing the same gear and hit with 25k dps.

Not my preferance.

People always say this.

It would result in lots of people copying builds just like they do now, however, given the variety of skills, it is easy to create counter-builds. It would create a constantly changing scene of FOTM in my opinion.

Full of bolt escaping/cloaking bosmer archers with Breath of life!

The Uninvited wrote: »

This would result in every min/maxer choosing the same 5 skills because those are the ones that are most powerfull. .

And it would make them happy so cool.

The other thing that it would allow would be really creative synergy combinations from a couple of players working together.

In my case it would also allow for every single character to have a familiar. Yippie!

The Uninvited wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

I'd prefer to disable classes and have all skill lines available to everyone.

This would result in every min/maxer choosing the same 5 skills because those are the ones that are most powerfull. They would also all be wearing the same gear and hit with 25k dps.

Not my preferance.

Actually, this is not how it works in other MMOs that don't restrict certain abilities to certain classes (yes, they're out there, and surprisingly, players balance themselves and there are very few cries for nerfs).

Frawr wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

newtinmpls wrote: »

I'd prefer to disable classes and have all skill lines available to everyone.

This would result in every min/maxer choosing the same 5 skills because those are the ones that are most powerfull. They would also all be wearing the same gear and hit with 25k dps.

Not my preferance.

People always say this.

It would result in lots of people copying builds just like they do now, however, given the variety of skills, it is easy to create counter-builds. It would create a constantly changing scene of FOTM in my opinion.

This is sort of what happens. But a lot of people also don't post their builds, so it adds incredibly to build diversity. FOTM build 1 comes out, next month people have a new FOTM to beat it, and in the shadows are the guys that don't publish their builds. It's a lot of fun.

Or do people really like nerfs to cloak, bolt escape, scales, etc.?

I am in favor of all class abilities being available on any single character. This lets players adapt on the fly to changing situations. If there is an OP class ability, then people can pick it up to have a level playing field until it gets brought in line rather than having to re-roll.

With regards to the initial idea, I think the limitation of 5 active abilities per bar, and not enough skill points to get all abilities, is more than enough of a restriction.

Letting players pick and choose where they invest those points freely is "play how you want."

The Uninvited wrote: »

Mitchblue wrote: »

The Uninvited wrote: »

Maybe fun for a little while, but becomes boring pretty quick I think.

But at least it would be about skill at that point.

In PVP yes, in PVE we would all just burn through enemies like paper (and we're almost doing that as it is now).

Not so much, there's very few buffs that all classes don't get access to one way or the other right now. There are a few damage increasing passives that more people would get access to, but the devs could tweak those or increase PvE difficulty to compensate.

It doesn't change the fact that eventually being able to get all skills and abilities is in-line with previous ES games, "play how you want," allows more creativity and flexibility in build design, and is generally more fun (in my experience with MMOs that follow this line of thinking).

I would love them to do this, as would a lot of other TES fans.