Valkyn skoria set nerfed again

asneakybanana · August 2015

Why must you keep merging valkyn into the ground zos? Been nerfed what, 3 times now? There was absolutely no need for a 25% reduction in the damage of this set making it basically useless for pretty much any build other than maybe jabs spam templars which will likely end up running just full weapon damage now and all other builds that run any type of non dot based skill will run the nerienth set and go back to running force pulse to give it a 40% chance a second to proc a 15k+ damage crystal. Also were you so afraid of the backlash this nerf would cause that you didn't list it in the patch notes?
I understand the need to balance gear out so different specs are viable but the keg to balance is buffing sets to put them in line with the current op set, not buffing a set to bring it up to par with the current set and then needing the current set so now you have a new op set.

Teargrants · August 2015

They do it because they know that deep down, you want it. You've been naughty using that birdy head and need to be punished.

Ishammael · August 2015

On the upside, nerien'eth is now positively OP.

Armitas · August 2015

This is typical, they find that a lot of players use X so they destroy X so no one uses it while making Y good so everyone uses it instead. Just leave us the heck alone and let us play the game like we want too. Make Y better and leave X alone! There is enough harassment from bugs, imbalances and lag we don't need to be voluntarily harassed over the things we like using.

Dracane · August 2015

Zenimax wants to make everything attractive to us. Sadly, they are not willing to buff things. (in most cases) They rather nerf things, to make other things more attractive. I think this is a bit dissapointing, best example Crushing Shock-Force Pulse.
I would have a much better feeling, if things get buffed instead of being interesting, beause other things became less interesting.

However, Skoria is highly overused and maybe it's not wrong to put it in line with other sets. Not sure though, haven't managed to get it so far.

WeerW3ir · August 2015

Dracane wrote: »

Zenimax wants to make everything attractive to us. Sadly, they are not willing to buff things. (in most cases) They rather nerf things, to make other things more attractive. I think this is a bit dissapointing, best example Crushing Shock-Force Pulse.

Exactly. Deeply dissapointing

Mojmir · August 2015

I actually like this,no reason why one set should be above all the others.

Poxheart · August 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

On the upside, nerien'eth is now positively OP.

It looks way better, too.

embersage_10_ESO · August 2015

Mojmir wrote: »

I actually like this,no reason why one set should be above all the others.

You mean there's no reason for a very difficult, RNG-based acquisition set to be powerful?

What a bloody shocker.

DisgracefulMind · August 2015

Mojmir wrote: »

I actually like this,no reason why one set should be above all the others.

The point here is that it wouldn't be so far above the others if they would buff other sets to make them more appealing instead of nerfing anything and everything into the ground.

olemanwinter · August 2015

Armitas wrote: »

This is typical, they find that a lot of players use X so they destroy X so no one uses it while making Y good so everyone uses it instead. Just leave us the heck alone and let us play the game like we want too. Make Y better and leave X alone! There is enough harassment from bugs, imbalances and lag we don't need to be voluntarily harassed over the things we like using.

The more you have to change your build...the more you have to grind for resources and gear, the more you play the game.

That's why this is done in the larger scheme.

olemanwinter · August 2015

I have a problem with the Valkyn set on live.

Batswarm + Valkyn proc is insanely powerful. Batswarm seems to allow it to proc...and the proc effectively makes you unable to evade batswarm. It's OP imo.

Combined with the fact that it's a RNG set, it irks me.

If there is going to be a few sets more powerful than the rest....please don't make them RNG.

Lucky shouldn't equal good.

Ishammael wrote: »

On the upside, nerien'eth is now positively OP.

Exactly. Here we go again.

I've run that dungeon over 60 times and never got the helm.

Can't wait to get teabagged by all the people wearing that set that thing they are "good" because RNG allows them to have a build I cannot possibly duplicate.

wrathofrraath · August 2015

I blame the sun set

Joy_Division · August 2015

olemanwinter wrote: »

I have a problem with the Valkyn set on live.

Batswarm + Valkyn proc is insanely powerful. Batswarm seems to allow it to proc...and the proc effectively makes you unable to evade batswarm. It's OP imo.

Combined with the fact that it's a RNG set, it irks me.

If there is going to be a few sets more powerful than the rest....please don't make them RNG.

Lucky shouldn't equal good.
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Ishammael wrote: »

On the upside, nerien'eth is now positively OP.

Exactly. Here we go again.

I've run that dungeon over 60 times and never got the helm.

Can't wait to get teabagged by all the people wearing that set that thing they are "good" because RNG allows them to have a build I cannot possibly duplicate.

If you think a 2% chance of getting hit with a 7K meteor in conjunction with an ultimate that can be completely eliminated by using a damage shield, dodge rolling, putting up a reflect ability, I'm glad you aren't in charge of game balance.

hammayolettuce · August 2015

By far the hardest helm to get in the game with the trait of choice and it gets nerfed. GG.

Artemiisia · August 2015

is there a link to the new set bonus for old monster sets?

I have a link with the 23 new sets, just cant find the new adjusted old sets

ScruffyWhiskers · August 2015

Wow. I spent a good chunk of time running VCoA just to get this set.....even dropped vamp and quit PvP for a while. I'd consider it one of the hardest things I've had to work at in the game besides running away from AD and DC sorcs. Please reconsider this ZoS. Lotus fan finally looks appealing and I was going to try it out with the Skoria .

Right now on pts the damage on the set reads about 5200...can't remember the exact number. I'm assuming that is before the 50% cyrodiil reduction? Seems to be that way for my concealed weapon which reads 5.2k but hits even worse now on than on live.

Would ZoS consider raising the proc % if they are going to reduce the damage so significantly?

Or maybe, just maybe you could let it proc off of shields? No reason it shouldn't be doing that right now.

Or I demand that you nerf engine guardian which despite countless gold keys eludes me because the shoulders won't drop. Yeah, now that I think of it, you should definitely nerf it 30%! on the resource returned.

Oh and nerf sorcs too!

Glantir · August 2015

Maybe its 5k Meteor because it is a v14 item and the v16 have the normal 7k or higher?

Soulac · August 2015

Glantir wrote: »

Maybe its 5k Meteor because it is a v14 item and the v16 have the normal 7k or higher?

Doubt, too much difference. Might be 5.5 - 6k

actosh · August 2015

For Dot dk Valkyn is still the best.
for non dot based dmg go nerienth. Super strong now

Pangnirtung · August 2015

asneakybanana wrote: »

Why must you keep merging valkyn into the ground zos? Been nerfed what, 3 times now?

Nerfing old sets is an easy way of making new sets not overpowered but attractive.

If the Valkyn set wasn't nerfed how good would the new armor have to be to be attractive enough to keep players interested.

It's the carrot on the stick reward system.

Xael · August 2015

asneakybanana wrote: »

Why must you keep merging valkyn into the ground zos? Been nerfed what, 3 times now? There was absolutely no need for a 25% reduction in the damage of this set making it basically useless for pretty much any build other than maybe jabs spam templars which will likely end up running just full weapon damage now and all other builds that run any type of non dot based skill will run the nerienth set and go back to running force pulse to give it a 40% chance a second to proc a 15k+ damage crystal. Also were you so afraid of the backlash this nerf would cause that you didn't list it in the patch notes?
I understand the need to balance gear out so different specs are viable but the keg to balance is buffing sets to put them in line with the current op set, not buffing a set to bring it up to par with the current set and then needing the current set so now you have a new op set.

tested confirmed

Rinmaethodain · August 2015

Welcome in the "We are hated by ZOS club"

ZOS hates true PVE tanks so they nerf stamina regen to ground under false reasons.
ZOS apparently hates Skoria set so they keep on nerfing it untill noone uses it anymore.

Tankqull · August 2015

embersage_10_ESO wrote: »

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Mojmir wrote: »

I actually like this,no reason why one set should be above all the others.

You mean there's no reason for a very difficult, RNG-based acquisition set to be powerful?

What a bloody shocker.

well yes if every other difficult to get, RNG-based set is severly behind this one then yes.

ah and ps. another pve induced nerf to pvp.

pjwb16_ESO · August 2015

Can someone link pictures of the new nerieneth and skoriaset??

ThatNeonZebraAgain · August 2015

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

Can someone link pictures of the new nerieneth and skoriaset??

Look in the patch notes people! Ctrl+F is your friend.

Xael · August 2015

asneakybanana wrote: »

Why must you keep merging valkyn into the ground zos? Been nerfed what, 3 times now? There was absolutely no need for a 25% reduction in the damage of this set making it basically useless for pretty much any build other than maybe jabs spam templars which will likely end up running just full weapon damage now and all other builds that run any type of non dot based skill will run the nerienth set and go back to running force pulse to give it a 40% chance a second to proc a 15k+ damage crystal. Also were you so afraid of the backlash this nerf would cause that you didn't list it in the patch notes?
I understand the need to balance gear out so different specs are viable but the keg to balance is buffing sets to put them in line with the current op set, not buffing a set to bring it up to par with the current set and then needing the current set so now you have a new op set.

@asneakybanana

I hopped on PTS and jumped into IC.
My procs were doing 7k crits. This is definitely nerfed. Take into consideration people are not nirn stacked the way they are on live. I should be doing a lot more damage with my proc (even with the new PvP damage reduction). I was just hoping this was a tooltip bug. What a shame. Seems like ZOS wants to nerf everything that is fun. First speed, then bolt, now this.

pjwb16_ESO · August 2015

ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

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pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

Can someone link pictures of the new nerieneth and skoriaset??

Look in the patch notes people! Ctrl+F is your friend.

nice iphone you have with a keyboard with ctrl F ...

ThatNeonZebraAgain · August 2015

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

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ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »

pjwb16_ESO wrote: »

Can someone link pictures of the new nerieneth and skoriaset??

Look in the patch notes people! Ctrl+F is your friend.

nice iphone you have with a keyboard with ctrl F ...

The "Find in page" tool is in the upper-right corner of your mobile browser

pjwb16_ESO · August 2015

okay, and how should i find PICTURES with it

Mojmir · August 2015

You can't seriously say you didn't see this coming? Just about everywhere I go there at least 1-2 chars with this set on.yes the helm is hardest to get.but if it's so rare why are there so many of them? The devs saw it as abuse instead of popular. I agree the other sets should all be on par.