Zenimax? 11 of the current PvP sets put to VR16?

Xantaria · August 2015

As mentioned in the title this is what Zenimax said in the ESOLive or QuakeCon, can't remeber which one. But on PTS there is none of the old sets at the vendors. Can only find vr14. So where do we get the old sets?

Kerioko · August 2015

The PVP gear that is going to come in V16 will only come from the rewards of the worthy mails and possibly leader boards. They are lowering the drop rate of the set items but increasing their level and rarity (probably blues or purples). As far as PVP gear currently sold by vendors, these will not be upgraded at this time!

Alcast · August 2015

So I finally can sell, my v16 Ravager gear(once i get it) for like 5millions/part, the moment I am in the first 2% of a campaign?

Xantaria · August 2015

To be honest. I don't like that at all. What is AP for then? Just siege weapons? This is rendering AP completely useless.

ToRelax · August 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

To be honest. I don't like that at all. What is AP for then? Just siege weapons? This is rendering AP completely useless.

They don't want you to spend your accumulated AP on the new gear instantly so you don't have an advantage over players with less AP. You are supposed to spend them on soul gems now.

TheBull · August 2015

Yeah this sucks bad. I actually think the other sets are too good and they are trying to put us in less effective gear.

Raizin · August 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

To be honest. I don't like that at all. What is AP for then? Just siege weapons? This is rendering AP completely useless.

They don't want you to spend your accumulated AP on the new gear instantly so you don't have an advantage over players with less AP. You are supposed to spend them on soul gems now.

and when we acumulate enough of the new currency, they shall do the same thing again

so beware friends

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Xantaria · August 2015

hmm I think the old sets should be available on vr16 through AP. The new ones are more interesting for PvPers anyways.

Septimus_Magna · August 2015

So will sets like Arch Mage and Cyrodiil's Light drop in v16 versions from rewards of the worthy? Or is it possible to get v16 items from random loot boxes?

Im kinda bothered by the fact that AP will be useless for buying gear. Now people are getting even less motivatiin to do actual pvp and all the earned AP (for me personally 2 mil) feels like its being flushed through the toilet.

Whats the point of all these different currencies if you have nothing to spend it on?

Kerioko · August 2015

They said that they will probably bring other gear, as well as current content, up on level, they just are not doing it when IC releases because they don't want fully geared v16's fresh out on release day.

MCMancub · August 2015

AP being useless is no different than gear tokens being seasonal. If you think about it, that's all AP is, gear tokens with some other niche uses. They release new gear, they change the currency associated. It will likely happen again in the future. Pretty standard.

Xantaria · August 2015

Kerioko wrote: »

They said that they will probably bring other gear, as well as current content, up on level, they just are not doing it when IC releases because they don't want fully geared v16's fresh out on release day.

If that is the case which would make sense and be OK in a way, I'd love to hear that confirmed from Zenimax.

Taleof2Cities · August 2015

Wrobel did say on Friday that you can purchase portal stones (approx 10K AP per) with AP ... so there is a new use for AP there. Sadly, it doesn't address the OPs concern however.

I don't know ... I had almost 30 rewards for the worthy in today's PvP before logging off for dinner. When 2.1 is released, I would hope that the RNG gods would at least be somewhat merciful in 30 tries.

Hears_Bright_Colors · August 2015

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

So will sets like Arch Mage and Cyrodiil's Light drop in v16 versions from rewards of the worthy? Or is it possible to get v16 items from random loot boxes?

I received green vr15 arch mage shoulders from rewards for the worthy last night. I am still vr15. Not certain if I would have received vr16 had I been v16 at the time, but that's how it's worked in the past.

Naphariel · August 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

To be honest. I don't like that at all. What is AP for then? Just siege weapons? This is rendering AP completely useless.

You'll be able to by the IC teleport stones with AP.

Tavore1138 · August 2015

Of course they won't up the best sets that you can get for AP becuase they want us all to buy this and play this so they make money - and do so while making the claim that technically you can acquire vr15/16 stuff without playing IC but knowing that to fo it in a timely fashion you do. Right now hardcore PvP folks love that and are looking forward to making a killing.

I have no doibt when Orsinium hits the market there will be new content that is only really available through playing PvE and will also support the changes in mechnics made for that release and will be the best sets needed for all styles of content.

You have to stop looking for just gameplay reasons and realise that in every design meeting there is going to be a team looking at how they can make each release something players need to have to stay viable and what can be slipped into the crown store etc.

Xantaria · August 2015

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Of course they won't up the best sets that you can get for AP becuase they want us all to buy this and play this so they make money - and do so while making the claim that technically you can acquire vr15/16 stuff without playing IC but knowing that to fo it in a timely fashion you do. Right now hardcore PvP folks love that and are looking forward to making a killing.

I have no doibt when Orsinium hits the market there will be new content that is only really available through playing PvE and will also support the changes in mechnics made for that release and will be the best sets needed for all styles of content.

You have to stop looking for just gameplay reasons and realise that in every design meeting there is going to be a team looking at how they can make each release something players need to have to stay viable and what can be slipped into the crown store etc.

That's really really offtopic what you wrote there. Read first post again I guess. They said they would make 11 of the old pvp sets available on VR16. But they are not. Atleast I don't know where to get them. And if it's only possible to get them through end of campaign rewards ... well that's really meeeh. And as those old sets are only interesting for a small PvE fraction with a specific build I don't see any reason not to make them available through AP. For most players the new sets are the most interesting ones anyways.

Tavore1138 · August 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

SuraklinPrime wrote: »

Of course they won't up the best sets that you can get for AP becuase they want us all to buy this and play this so they make money - and do so while making the claim that technically you can acquire vr15/16 stuff without playing IC but knowing that to fo it in a timely fashion you do. Right now hardcore PvP folks love that and are looking forward to making a killing.

I have no doibt when Orsinium hits the market there will be new content that is only really available through playing PvE and will also support the changes in mechnics made for that release and will be the best sets needed for all styles of content.

You have to stop looking for just gameplay reasons and realise that in every design meeting there is going to be a team looking at how they can make each release something players need to have to stay viable and what can be slipped into the crown store etc.

That's really really offtopic what you wrote there. Read first post again I guess. They said they would make 11 of the old pvp sets available on VR16. But they are not. Atleast I don't know where to get them. And if it's only possible to get them through end of campaign rewards ... well that's really meeeh. And as those old sets are only interesting for a small PvE fraction with a specific build I don't see any reason not to make them available through AP. For most players the new sets are the most interesting ones anyways.

My point is that they probably won't do it at release because they do not want us simply getting vr16 ravager and carrying on regardless they want us buying and playing the content so you will have to be patient 'cos money.

Laggus · August 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

To be honest. I don't like that at all. What is AP for then? Just siege weapons? This is rendering AP completely useless.

Wall repairs!!! Maybe now more than 2 people will repair wall breaches while 20 other people pretend to be too busy looking at their maps beside you.

Stalwart385 · August 2015

You dont have to buy IC to get the old sets in VR16. In fact if that is your goal it will help you in no way to buy IC. They just dont want people to have all the sets as soon as 2.1 goes live.

If you want those set in VR16 then you need to pvp alot and hope you get them from Rewards for the Worthy. If you pvp even more you can get them for being on top your leaderboard at the end of your campaign. Having a high placed alliance gives you more of that gear. Running the longer campaign also gives you more gear at the end.

Xantaria · August 2015

Laggus wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

To be honest. I don't like that at all. What is AP for then? Just siege weapons? This is rendering AP completely useless.

Wall repairs!!! Maybe now more than 2 people will repair wall breaches while 20 other people pretend to be too busy looking at their maps beside you.

I dunno on which campagin you play but where I play I'm lucky if I get to use more than 2 kits on a wall.