Should guards be killable?

Sadishist · August 2015

Them being invincible takes the immersion away a bit. How about making them really tough to kill and also respawn quickly? And you get no rewards for killing them but a higher bounty.

Azurephoenix999 · August 2015

Yes

I think there should be a reward for killing them, but make it small and insignificant.

Storm_knight22 · August 2015

Yes

Once players are able to collect bounties from one another then yes.

thunderwell · August 2015

Yes

Killable? Yes.
Difficult? Very much so!
Rewards? None, or very insignificant.
Increased Bounty? Yes, raised as much as murdering a civillian would be.

Hopefully players later won't whine so much that guards will get the nerf hammer.

Korah_Eaglecry · August 2015

Yes

Sadishist wrote: »

Them being invincible takes the immersion away a bit. How about making them really tough to kill and also respawn quickly? And you get no rewards for killing them but a higher bounty.

Id like to see them killable but something that would require a great deal of effort and cooperation by the playerbase. Much like World Bosses in other games like SWTOR.

This would cut down on what ZOS feels would be exploitable behavior and at the same time allow players a bit more freedom in the game. Many portions of the game feels like a game on rails. The freedom of choice is limited and not actually impacting the world around us. The only NPCs we can kill are insignificant making the whole process unnecessary and self-punishing.

Averya_Teira · August 2015

Yes

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Sadishist wrote: »

Them being invincible takes the immersion away a bit. How about making them really tough to kill and also respawn quickly? And you get no rewards for killing them but a higher bounty.

Id like to see them killable but something that would require a great deal of effort and cooperation by the playerbase. Much like World Bosses in other games like SWTOR.

This would cut down on what ZOS feels would be exploitable behavior and at the same time allow players a bit more freedom in the game. Many portions of the game feels like a game on rails. The freedom of choice is limited and not actually impacting the world around us. The only NPCs we can kill are insignificant making the whole process unnecessary and self-punishing.

Except, right now, they are unkillable NPCs for gameplay's sake. If you make them super hard like a raid boss.... What's the explanation behind it ? Where were those god like beings when we were fighting in Coldharbour lol ?

Azurulia · August 2015

No

Guards are laughably easy to escape from. I took a struggling thief under my wing yesterday and showed him the tricks of the trade and he was absolutely baffled about the truth behind guard's mechanics. He never dies to them now.

People that have huge bounties and die to guards are simply doing it wrong. Personally, I think guards need a buff, not to be killable.

Groggpuffar · August 2015

No

Azurulia wrote: »

Guards are laughably easy to escape from. I took a struggling thief under my wing yesterday and showed him the tricks of the trade and he was absolutely baffled about the truth behind guard's mechanics. He never dies to them now.

People that have huge bounties and die to guards are simply doing it wrong. Personally, I think guards need a buff, not to be killable.

This.

lolo_01b16_ESO · August 2015

Yes

Azurulia wrote: »

Guards are laughably easy to escape from. I took a struggling thief under my wing yesterday and showed him the tricks of the trade and he was absolutely baffled about the truth behind guard's mechanics. He never dies to them now.

People that have huge bounties and die to guards are simply doing it wrong. Personally, I think guards need a buff, not to be killable.

It's not about making it easier to escape, it's about adding more depth to the game and making it more realistic.
If you make guards killable, but add a mechanic, that for each killed guard 2 more will come after you, escaping won't become easier, but I can kill some guards if I want to.

tplink3r1 · August 2015

Only if players could kill the criminals.

Forestd16b14_ESO · August 2015

No

Uh no cause I don't wanna be walking through Mournhold or Windhelm and there be piles of civilian and guard corpse around every corner.

Mighty_oakk · August 2015

No

I fought the law and the law won

corwinDA · August 2015

No

The only people who want this are those who still can't get away from guards after robbing craiglorn blind but caught on the last item and see it all taken away.
I too use Belkin for the free grand soul gems that when filled stop being a stolen item.

Morimizo · August 2015

Yes

Should be tough, but absolutely. And forget all this no reward gibberish. Guards have been robbing players' hard-earned thievery for months now, hoarding it in their guard quarters, and generally living opulent (but still guard) existences.

If you kill a guard, you get 5 minutes in the guard quarters to open as many master chests as you can. Oh, and an achievement and title for sticking it to the man. Kill 25 guards, get to take on the mayor.

Enjoy!!!

Iluvrien · August 2015

No

Of course they shouldn't.

One of my major sources of amusement when I visit the cities for crafting orders or guild recruitment is watching random criminals getting slaughtered by the guards for disturbing the peace... why would I ever want that to stop?

QueenAyrenn · August 2015

No

If we could kill guards, there would never be any guards. It would be complete anarchy. Guards are the only way cities seem at all civil, and even with them, there's still bodies always laying around due to the absurd "mass murderer" achievement. Yet, we're still the "hero." Smh

Mitchblue · August 2015

No

No.

Kulvar · August 2015

Yes

Killable guard: Yes

But not alone, and the sole reward is: more bounty + two guards pop to take its place.

Atlaz · August 2015

No

Only if it makes me V14 instantly.

Psychobunni · August 2015

No

I already HATE when fighting is going on next to me while I am at the bank, delivering writs, selling off junk, etc...my "immersion" counts as much as any other players

The game does not need "more" of this. Unless ofc, for "immersion" sake we inject some realism and killing of a cop guard nets you life in prison/death banned from the game.

Let's get "immersed" realistically

TacoMasters(PS4) · August 2015

Yes

I would like to see them killable but it could take 3 players to finish off one in a breeze.

Morimizo wrote: »

Should be tough, but absolutely. And forget all this no reward gibberish. Guards have been robbing players' hard-earned thievery for months now, hoarding it in their guard quarters, and generally living opulent (but still guard) existences.

If you kill a guard, you get 5 minutes in the guard quarters to open as many master chests as you can. Oh, and an achievement and title for sticking it to the man. Kill 25 guards, get to take on the mayor.

Enjoy!!!

This is amazing. Being able to be locked up and try to escape whilst trying to escape with pockets full of gold.

iord_stryker · August 2015

Yes

I think they should be a tough but kill able foe. What happens when you get caught indoors and you can't leave the building. You die lose your stuff and your amour is wrecked. You cant even stun them. They should als put in a stealth mission to enter the guard house and get your stuff back. Or a raid/ heist that you can do every week. To that effect.

arena25 · August 2015

Yes

Sorry, meant to vote no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08

snackrat · August 2015

No

No, no they should not be.

But they SHOULD not have so many CC abilities, so you can actually get away.

Gidorick · August 2015

Yes

Yerp... and I'm surprised the poll is so evenly divided on this. However, I do think that they shouldn't be killable before some more complicated systems are put into place. A player who kills a guard needs to pay for that action with more severe consequences than getting KOS or a bounty. I'm talking the stocks or jailtime.

So... yes, but there's more to it then that.

demendred · August 2015

No

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2015

Yes

NPC Guards should be killable. I think the problem is they are immortal because they are a place-setter until the pvp elements of the system get released (Please hurry up on that ZoS).

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2015

Yes

QueenAyrenn wrote: »

If we could kill guards, there would never be any guards. It would be complete anarchy. Guards are the only way cities seem at all civil, and even with them, there's still bodies always laying around due to the absurd "mass murderer" achievement. Yet, we're still the "hero." Smh

This is preposterous. Realize the system was meant to have PvP Enforcers. I want to fight THEM and not have to deal with an Immortal Guard who makes Molag Bal look weaker than a mudcrab. As for all characters being the hero, get real. Vampires and Werewolves abound. Thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood on the way. If anything the rare few heroes are the odd duck here. Give us an Enforcer guild and we'll have what we need that solves all the problems here.

Slylok · August 2015

Once the Enforcer bit of the Justice system is in then I will say Yes. No until then.

Sadishist · August 2015

Yes

Gidorick wrote: »

Yerp... and I'm surprised the poll is so evenly divided on this. However, I do think that they shouldn't be killable before some more complicated systems are put into place. A player who kills a guard needs to pay for that action with more severe consequences than getting KOS or a bounty. I'm talking the stocks or jailtime.

So... yes, but there's more to it then that.

Well murdering civilians is a 1000 bounty right? So think it would make sense if killing town guard to be the same bounty at 1000, or more?

TheGrandAlliance · August 2015

No

They are not killiable? Wasn't aware...

Assuming they are not... they should not be killable until PvP inside of PvE zones (kill players with bounty; the "enforcer idea") is in affect.

Otherwise player will just ROFLSTOMP low lvl zones and steal everything.

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