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Stamina DKs with update
mclegg721
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So after watching ESO Live yesterday. They are making a few improvements to Stamina Sorcs
and Yet Stamina DKs have only 2 abilities that are stam based.. and they're both dots.
the other classes have multiple stamina morphs.
yet DKS are stuck with 2 dots.
Oh they made battle roar scale off max magica or stamina.. Big deal
It's just going to give us a little more resources back.
ZOS please give Stamina DKS more offensive abilities that scale off stamina (Like flame whip or Ash cloud)
Looks like Stamina DKS are yet boned again.
and Yet Stamina DKs have only 2 abilities that are stam based.. and they're both dots.
the other classes have multiple stamina morphs.
yet DKS are stuck with 2 dots.
Oh they made battle roar scale off max magica or stamina.. Big deal
It's just going to give us a little more resources back.
ZOS please give Stamina DKS more offensive abilities that scale off stamina (Like flame whip or Ash cloud)
Looks like Stamina DKS are yet boned again.
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Aquanova✭✭✭✭✭Yuuup! I think ZOS and some other players believe DK's will become OP again with stamina morphs.NA/PC0 -
Warraxx✭✭✭✭✭stam DK here, the only class skillz i use are GDB, petrify, take flight... I don't even use the 2 stam morphs. what the big friggin' deal. use weapon abilities for damage and class abilities for buffs/utility. if stam dk's and sorcs want more stam morf class abilities then you are better off just rollin' magika.Edited by Warraxx on August 1, 2015 3:05PM4 -
xylena✭✭✭✭✭i've mained stam dk for over a year... my sustained pvp dps is now pathetic, yet i can still 2-hit burst kill people with 8-9k wrecking blow into 10-12k take flight... worst of both worlds
much as i'd love a stam whip morph, i'd also settle for them nerfing the spud out of stam surprise attack and stam jabs... stam dk dueling a stam nb, i look at my combat log and i'm hit for 8-9k surprise attacks over and over... again, worst of both worlds PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || solo/smallscale || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP8 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭We either need a stam whip or just roll nbs. That is happening on liver servers right now ^^. In all lvlzones u see a lot of Nb's ^^. Could u change the Class on my Char *lol*
i'm tired of using petrify-> Wb. We need a Stam skill without cast time that hits like surprise attack or biting jabs.Edited by actosh on August 1, 2015 3:17PM2 -
mclegg721✭✭Yes, I realize you can use weapon abilities, but so can EVERYONE, that's the point of this post. we lack class abilities for damage dealing. like cinder storm.. Does anyone use that? make it a stamina morph. lol. I'd like to have a flame whip that hits nice and hard for stamina but then you'd have a bunch of magica dks say oh no.1
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Cormore✭✭✭stam dk's are fine. i live long and still kill allot the way theyre. i don't think they need changes3
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Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭I can live without a whip stam morph on my DK.
I think that even with stam sorc buffs, DKs are second on my list of stam users (maybe go 1st since NB's stam regen seems to have been reduced to 15%)
Oh and WB is godmode. I dont need another ability really. Plus, if there was a stam morph for whip, its overall dps on weave would likely be lower than WB weave. And PvP is all about huge burst with crazy CC.0 -
mclegg721✭✭yes for your builds it might be ok, i'm not talking about tank builds, im talking about dps builds. DKs don't have enough stamina class abilities, I want more variety. It's silly to roll a class and just use the passives and not the actual abilties. I use like maybe 2 or 3 class abilities at the most. in PVP i find myself using less and less class abilities minus the ultis.2
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Warraxx✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I realize you can use weapon abilities, but so can EVERYONE, that's the point of this post. we lack class abilities for damage dealing. like cinder storm.. Does anyone use that? make it a stamina morph. lol. I'd like to have a flame whip that hits nice and hard for stamina but then you'd have a bunch of magica dks say oh no.
and my point is, if you want to use class abilities for damage then you would be better off rolling magika.0 -
Warraxx✭✭✭✭✭yes for your builds it might be ok, i'm not talking about tank builds, im talking about dps builds. DKs don't have enough stamina class abilities, I want more variety. It's silly to roll a class and just use the passives and not the actual abilties. I use like maybe 2 or 3 class abilities at the most. in PVP i find myself using less and less class abilities minus the ultis.
..who is talking about tank builds here?0 -
mclegg721✭✭Yeah if i want to use stamina abilities, I guess I better make a NB then. no, i want to play a DK. and a lot of other Stamina DKS would be ok with that too.2
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Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Its not like surprise attack is so much better than weapon abilities. In terms of DPS, prepare to be disapointed. Its only ''pro'' is that its instant, but unless you use it to quick drop your target to execute range then execute it one shot, its not a good spammable ability, especially since its better used out of stealth.
And for killer's blade; its inferior to 2h execute because it deal magic attacks still and the animation takes more time.
The only other alternative for you would be templar jabs. People like, people hate and its similar to use as WB expect the CC is weaker but damage higher. Oh and its easy to avoid.Edited by Kupoking on August 1, 2015 5:35PM1 -
Teiji✭✭✭✭✭Choking Talons, Wrecking Blow, Battle Roar [l0l it's a passive?], Minor Brutality for 20 sec from casting Obsidian Shield [to increase Vigor and lol-mentum heal], Volatile Armor.
It's awkward, but the aoe 7 second Minor Maim, combined with Volatile Armor gives you slightly more resists than heavy armor without buffs, but yes - without buffs.
It's K, having loads of fun with stam DK on PTS, but you know... Imperial stam, not Dunmer stam like my live character."Serving Boethiah is Freedom, embracing heroism is Liberty, existing solely for noxiphilic sanguivoria is truth." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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mclegg721✭✭wrecking blow is not a class ability, that's my point, i can put surprise attack on my NB for dual wield, sword and board, and hell even two hander. Choking talons is ok. But I don't really consider that to be a stamina ability.
As far as surprise attack its instant, wrecking blow has a cast time, and i have to have a 2 hander equipped to use it.
I'm not asking for a stamina DK wrecking blow, I'm asking for a class ability that i can use that has decent damage for stamina builds. i'd be ok if they changed cinder storm into a stamina morph even.2 -
xylena✭✭✭✭✭stam DK wrecking blow does the same damage as NB surprise attack or stamplar jabs... except that it has a 1 second windup and requires using a 2h, which restricts stam DK builds in a way that stam NBs and temps are not restricted... surprise attack spam with DW sharpened maces = lolololol faceroll
i'm pretty ok with stam jabs being high damage since it leaves them open for counterattack, but surprise attack with its armor debuff, stealth buff, and incredibly quick animation and cast time... it needs a good 20% damage reduction, no NB ever has any reason to use wrecking blow with the nonsense that is stam surprise attack available to themPC/NA || Cyro/BGs || solo/smallscale || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP3 -
FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So after watching ESO Live yesterday. They are making a few improvements to Stamina Sorcs
and Yet Stamina DKs have only 2 abilities that are stam based.. and they're both dots.
the other classes have multiple stamina morphs.
yet DKS are stuck with 2 dots.
Oh they made battle roar scale off max magica or stamina.. Big deal
It's just going to give us a little more resources back.
ZOS please give Stamina DKS more offensive abilities that scale off stamina (Like flame whip or Ash cloud)
Looks like Stamina DKS are yet boned again.
What active skills do sorcs have that do damage based on stam? Theres one coming in this patch - and nobody will be using it in its current form.
So uhhh... not really a solid basis of sorcs are gettin <X> and we arent. Theyre putting in passives, which arent amazing - but something. They had no passives.1 -
Teiji✭✭✭✭✭stam DK wrecking blow does the same damage as NB surprise attack or stamplar jabs... except that it has a 1 second windup and requires using a 2h, which restricts stam DK builds in a way that stam NBs and temps are not restricted... surprise attack spam with DW sharpened maces = lolololol faceroll
i'm pretty ok with stam jabs being high damage since it leaves them open for counterattack, but surprise attack with its armor debuff, stealth buff, and incredibly quick animation and cast time... it needs a good 20% damage reduction, no NB ever has any reason to use wrecking blow with the nonsense that is stam surprise attack available to them
@xylena is this due to suprise attack + light attack + suprise attack in under, or just around a second?
I have a NB but I only rock her as a healer because Funnel Health is cool."Serving Boethiah is Freedom, embracing heroism is Liberty, existing solely for noxiphilic sanguivoria is truth." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As someone who played a Stamina DK for a very long time, even when Stamina DK was considered crap.
When 1.6 came In played a while then switched my DK over to Magicka, simply because there is zero reason to play a Stamina DK over a Stamina Nightblade or Templar
Both of those classes are VASTLY superior to the DK.
When 1.7 comes out i'll do the same thing as well...stick with Magicka.
DK's really need a Class Charge and a non dot stamina attack.
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭+1 for class gapcloser
Like i'd love to do a Dual Wield DK, but then i'm limited to either two hander or 1hd shield as my other options..
I can't do for example, DW/Bow
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actosh✭✭✭✭✭I really hope that they consider to give us a Stamina Spamable Skill like Temps have or the Nb.
Wont give up on my Dk but on Pts Stam and Nb are far superior in terms of Stam builds. In pve Dks do good. But we all know dots are mostly a waste of time in Pvp.
To all the Stam Sorcs, u also need a Stam based attack. Maybe next Year we get one
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Until then if u want to play Stam.......go nb or Temp
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Btw, Wb and Rs are not Instant anszansz Wb can be dodged/blocked easily. So those r no alternative.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler lurk here man Edited by actosh on August 2, 2015 10:22AM0 -
Ahzek✭✭✭✭✭
✭The biggest strenght of stam DKs imo is take flight, with its phisical damage it scales incredibly well with the CS and stam build's inherent penetration. Aslo its a knockup amd those have the temdency to bug out their victims from time to time.
I guess stam NBs are stronger in certain playstyles, but i think nothing beats a stam DK concerning s+b low slash DPS.
Also dont underetimante corrosive armor. 100% armorpenetration seem like they can be really strong in the new update when taking down anyon that is not light armor.Jo'Khaljor0 -
AlcastClass RepresentativeThe biggest strenght of stam DKs imo is take flight, with its phisical damage it scales incredibly well with the CS and stam build's inherent penetration. Aslo its a knockup amd those have the temdency to bug out their victims from time to time.
I guess stam NBs are stronger in certain playstyles, but i think nothing beats a stam DK concerning s+b low slash DPS.
Also dont underetimante corrosive armor. 100% armorpenetration seem like they can be really strong in the new update when taking down anyon that is not light armor.
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actosh✭✭✭✭✭The biggest strenght of stam DKs imo is take flight, with its phisical damage it scales incredibly well with the CS and stam build's inherent penetration. Aslo its a knockup amd those have the temdency to bug out their victims from time to time.
I guess stam NBs are stronger in certain playstyles, but i think nothing beats a stam DK concerning s+b low slash DPS.
Also dont underetimante corrosive armor. 100% armorpenetration seem like they can be really strong in the new update when taking down anyon that is not light armor.
Well, Low Slash is a Skill that everyone can get. I dont see any Dk skill that will push it. At work now so i cant check for myself. Also permblock is gone if u wanted to refer to that.
I wont change my Dk to a Nb. He is my Main since release and im not one if those "i play fotm" switchers ^^.
Some love to play all classes, some just switch to what is fotm ^^. Btw never enjoyed Mag Dk ^^1
