Werewolves ARE liked you know...

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I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.
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  • Samadhi
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    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."
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    I became a WW for the role play aspect of it, but RP is way too awkward on console without text chat. I ended just having it for the bonus stam regen.

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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?
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    Most of my characters are werewolves, and that's largely because I enjoyed the Companions storyline so much in Skyrim. I stayed a werewolf through all of Skyrim from that point on - none of this turning to Vampirism in Dawnguard nonsense! Of course, even then I almost never transformed into a WW. It was always just something I did every now and then for fun because I felt like it, and that's kind of how I've been treating it in ESO.

    Of course, recently I've been thinking about taking my VR2 stamina DPS and turning her into a beast-mode slaughterer.
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Hahaha right
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    Okay, fair.
    Through that lens, have not seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf since PC launch over a year ago.

    Whether that means that Werewolf transformation is subpar in PvP, or that everyone who players Werewolf in Cyrodiil has no skill, remains up to you.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.
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  • CP5
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    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    That could well be everyones mentality, but when you see the big wolf or hear the howl over the sound of combat thats a dinner bell for me, either a easy target (pure melee with low regen), a fun ww v ww fight, or an attempt to build a wave of wolves for some fun. Its mostly a quick kill from all of my experience.
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    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group
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    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group

    That pretty much applies to everything from what I've seen when 1 on 1 isn't an option. Seriously it's basically gank or be ganked in Cyrodiil. Kind of sucks really.
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  • CP5
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    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group

    I will say, most every werewolf I see (myself included) basically just spams the heal howl before running out of magicka then quickly getting crushed.
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    CP5 wrote: »
    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group

    I will say, most every werewolf I see (myself included) basically just spams the heal howl before running out of magicka then quickly getting crushed.

    Yup
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    CP5 wrote: »
    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group

    I will say, most every werewolf I see (myself included) basically just spams the heal howl before running out of magicka then quickly getting crushed.

    I've seen that too but mainly due to fear of getting ganked which I don't blame them for. I see a group of players coming at me I'ma run like mad too or die trying all the while doing what I can to stay alive lol
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  • CidxLucy
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    You can now safely press the button for the werewolf ultimate repeatedly without fear of immediately reverting back to normal again.
    Removed Stamina Regeneration from Lycanthropy; it now requires Werewolf Transformation to be slotted in your ability bar.
  • markt84
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    CP5 wrote: »
    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group

    I will say, most every werewolf I see (myself included) basically just spams the heal howl before running out of magicka then quickly getting crushed.

    I've seen that too but mainly due to fear of getting ganked which I don't blame them for. I see a group of players coming at me I'ma run like mad too or die trying all the while doing what I can to stay alive lol

    I see them do that in every fight. 1v1 or not, werewolf form isn't better than your nomaral form. Every fight I've had with them end with them dead while running away or they get away from me due to my lack of range
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    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    markt84 wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    Or maybe you just haven't seen anyone skilled at being a Werewolf yet?

    When I see a ww in cryodiil I don't see a threat, I see a pinata full of ap, and when I use ww (7/8 characters are one and 5/8 have most everything unlocked) I am frequently focused down. Its to hard to resist the east glaring target, unless I see a ww and have mine charged, then I try to have a nice fight but those often end quickly.

    I do agree 1 on 1 fights in Cyrodiil are rare since people tend to travel in groups to avoid getting ganked and oft times when you DO get a 1 on 1 others come running soon after and I also admit I put a bit of focus on taking down Werewolves as well but not because I find them easy targets but rather the fact I know their potential and don't plan to let them go unchecked.

    Come on dude, they go down easy or they just turn and run while howling in hopes of getting away before they die. They are only good when they are in a group

    I will say, most every werewolf I see (myself included) basically just spams the heal howl before running out of magicka then quickly getting crushed.

    I've seen that too but mainly due to fear of getting ganked which I don't blame them for. I see a group of players coming at me I'ma run like mad too or die trying all the while doing what I can to stay alive lol

    I see them do that in every fight. 1v1 or not, werewolf form isn't better than your nomaral form. Every fight I've had with them end with them dead while running away or they get away from me due to my lack of range

    Then you haven't met a Werewolf with the courage to stand fast lol
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  • 21jws10
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    I just use lethal arrow and they go down really quickly...
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  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    WWs' Howl of Agony can hit a devastating 11k+hard CC you know. That's just 1 click. I've done it. Took down a lot of tanks and shield-stackers alike on assaults with it but at the cost of my toon's life (but half of the time, I survived too). But hey, at least I took care of them so my alliance can move forward without getting too focused on killing one opponent. It's really powerful if you really gear for it. Though, I tend to use other ultis rather than just WW form. I take the WW ulti as being situational to some circumstances because let's face it, being a vamp doesn't force you to 'transform' and the abilities can be used on-the-go.
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    WWs' Howl of Agony can hit a devastating 11k+hard CC you know. That's just 1 click. I've done it. Took down a lot of tanks and shield-stackers alike on assaults with it but at the cost of my toon's life (but half of the time, I survived too). But hey, at least I took care of them so my alliance can move forward without getting too focused on killing one opponent. It's really powerful if you really gear for it. Though, I tend to use other ultis rather than just WW form. I take the WW ulti as being situational to some circumstances because let's face it, being a vamp doesn't force you to 'transform' and the abilities can be used on-the-go.

    Vampires do have less abilities at their disposal though. Only 2 in fact or 3 if you count the Ultimate. Also just want to point out that Cyrodiil is not necessarily the permanent residence of players at end game so the choice to be a Werewolf doesn't have to be limited to PvP. I am aware PvP is the most noteworthy endgame place in pretty much any game but that also depends on the player.
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  • Aerius_Sygale
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    Tholian1 wrote: »
    I became a WW for the role play aspect of it, but RP is way too awkward on console without text chat. I ended just having it for the bonus stam regen.

    vampire time!

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  • Gidorick
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    If the change prevents people from being werewolf for JUST the stamina regen then I am 100%... no, make that 10,000% behind the change. People who becomes wolves and vamps should be come wolves and vamps because they WANT to be wolves and vamps, not because they get some benefit that makes them feel like they're missing out if they ARENT a wolf or a vamp.
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  • OzJohnD
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    RAWR !

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    Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.

    Francis Ford Coppola - BS Dracula: The Film and the Legend




  • Appleblade
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    Some of us don't become werewolves or vampires because role play.

    But WW pelts are good material, and vampire dust is great for house plants, so the disease dripping abominations have their place. :smiley:
  • Aerius_Sygale
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    I am a Werewolf because I want to be, but it still feels like us Werewolves only ever get f**ked anymore now... >_<*
    Edited by Aerius_Sygale on July 28, 2015 11:35PM
    PS4/PS5, NA | PSN: AeriusSygale | Alliance War Rank 50 (Grand Overlord Grade 2) | CP: 2940+
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    ZOS - I'm pretty sure that a significant portion of the ESO player base thinks werewolves suck, and believes you can do more to make them viable. Please consider this strongly. However, I do want to say GREAT job on releasing Imperial City on pts - from the patch notes it looks like you guys are working incredibly hard, and trying to address as many player concerns as possible.

    I'm also kind of sad that werewolf is subpar, it's too hard to stay in form for long. We don't necessarily need more power, just a bit more survivability. On suggestion would be some level of cc immunity, since we are rampaging werewolves.

    I would be comforted somewhat if Eric Wrobel or someone else from the combat / balance side of things came on here and said something like, "Guys, we here you and from our intimate knowledge of our systems, we sincerely believe that werewolf is good right now. Spend more time exploring their potential."

    I would be like, "Cool dude! Thanks and I trust you!"

    Ultimately, I am a werewolf, not a whiny human, so I will take what I'm given and continue doing my best to slaughter my foes in my true form. To this end I recently started a new thread called The Art of Werewolf PVP Combat that is intended as a meta conversation about how to be an effective wolf in pvp using strategy, rotations and the like. I know there are some great videos and other resources out there, but I think there's room for more I would love to hear from others who are committed to taking werewolf as it is and making it work:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/199172/the-art-of-werewolf-pvp-combat#latest

    Also, I would love to hear from anyone else interested in running as a pack in Cyrodil, on the AD side of course ;) .
    Edited by Celas_Dranacea on July 28, 2015 11:56PM
    A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf
  • Sneaky-Snurr
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    Samadhi wrote: »
    I keep hearing people say "the only reason people get Lycanthropy is for the Stamina Recovery" and "no one actually becomes a Werewolf to be a Werewolf" but this is incorrect. Seriously guys and girls the metagame is not the end all be all and there ARE people that actually LIKE being a Werewolf. Also I have seen Werewolves in Cyrodiil actually BEING Werewolves so at least be courteous to those that actually use the transformation or learn to speak for yourself.

    Those players are what are known as a "free kill."

    WWs' Howl of Agony can hit a devastating 11k+hard CC you know. That's just 1 click. I've done it. Took down a lot of tanks and shield-stackers alike on assaults with it but at the cost of my toon's life (but half of the time, I survived too). But hey, at least I took care of them so my alliance can move forward without getting too focused on killing one opponent. It's really powerful if you really gear for it. Though, I tend to use other ultis rather than just WW form. I take the WW ulti as being situational to some circumstances because let's face it, being a vamp doesn't force you to 'transform' and the abilities can be used on-the-go.

    Vampires do have less abilities at their disposal though. Only 2 in fact or 3 if you count the Ultimate. Also just want to point out that Cyrodiil is not necessarily the permanent residence of players at end game so the choice to be a Werewolf doesn't have to be limited to PvP. I am aware PvP is the most noteworthy endgame place in pretty much any game but that also depends on the player.

    @UltimaJoe777 While I agree on your point that they have only 2 or 3 vamp abilities to meddle with, it's just not the same as being a WW. Regardless of combat environment (PvP or PvE), we WWs are forced to use WW-only skills while in beast form (the opposite is also true). Vamps face no shortcomings from this. They can synergise class/weapon skills with vamp abilities plus, their damage mitigation skill (Mist Form for example) is highly reliable. WWs are indeed sub-par when compared to what vamps can do.

    And I must add, in Skyrim (yes I know this isn't Skyrim 2/Skyrim online but for the sake of explanation, hear this) vamps are required to transform in able to use vamp abilities. Thus, vamps and WWs in Skyrim are well on par together. Different playstyles yes, but they are both viable to be utilised.
    Also, I would love to hear from anyone else interested in running as a pack in Cyrodil, on the AD side of course ;) .

    @Celas_Dranacea Y U NO EP?! D;
    Edited by Sneaky-Snurr on July 29, 2015 2:22AM
    The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare
      EP CP810 Nightblade
      AD CP810 Templar
      AD CP810 Dragon Knight
      AD Lvl 25 Sorceror
      DC Lvl 23 Nightblade
    {PC•NA•no-CP Ravenwatch}

    Shadow hide you. -Unknown
    There is no clean fight in a war. -Shun Izaki
  • OzJohnD
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    I am a Werewolf because I want to be, but it still feels like us Werewolves only ever get f**ked anymore now... >_<*

    I'd be banned for posting an image for that ...

    Everyone knows the phenomenon of trying to hold your breath underwater - how at first it's alright and you can handle it, and then as it gets closer and closer to the time when you must breathe, how urgent the need becomes, the lust and the hunger to breathe. And then the panic sets in when you begin to think that you won't be able to breathe - and finally, when you take in air and the anxiety subsides...that's what it's like to be a vampire and need blood.

    Francis Ford Coppola - BS Dracula: The Film and the Legend




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