Video - Argonian player's reaction to racial passives updates!

Kaide · July 2015

Racial Passive Update:

Khajiit = Higher melee crit % chance

Nord = more HP (Allows you to put points into other attributes)

Orc = plus 4% damage...minus 6% charge damage

Argonian..................*starts to laugh*....sorry guys...now for Argonian passives....

Argonian = More resources from drinking potions.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry I couldn't help myself. At least they can swim fast which is incredibly useful (sarcasm)

Argonian players reaction to the introduction of the new racials (skip to 4 minutes into the video to see him reading the updates on the forums...after dying several times in game):

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https://youtu.be/G2eIxscdG3s[/video]

Slonekb05 · July 2015

im with you, only thing argonian has going for them is they look cool

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2015

We nords are getting more HP ???? Ok then??????

Kaide · July 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

We nords are getting more HP ???? Ok then??????

The theory is that you can put points else where

Akavir_Sentinel · July 2015

I haven't got that far into the Twitch stream yet. What did they remove from the existing Nord racials in order to give them more HP? Did they get rid of the cold resistance?

Thymos · July 2015

I didn't see anything on that in the twitch stream... where's this coming from?

Mos-De-Atmo · July 2015

http://esoacademy.com/news/update-7-what-we-know/

This is from ESO Live as well as other sources like the Dev Tracker. The Racial Passives info is from ESO Live from Eric Wrobel.

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2015

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

I haven't got that far into the Twitch stream yet. What did they remove from the existing Nord racials in order to give them more HP? Did they get rid of the cold resistance?

Beats me IDK why nords need changed to have more HP not like HP does much any way since it doesn't scale with anything. What @Kaide is saying is that so those who play nords can have more points into other stuff apparently but the thing is players can already fill the health gap with enchantments while they already spend all there points on magic and stamina cause those offer better defense and offense to health just offering defense. So as I said many times before to make these changes good and health good in general they need health to scale off something too and make some changes to HA that offers better defense with the more health you have such as reduce break free block ect ect. Like magic and LA go together MA and stamina too so health and HA should scale and work with one another plus it would allow more hybrid builds so to speak say some points in health and some in stamina and wearing a mix of HA and MA that allows defense and offense cause you have the defense powers of health and dodge.

Mighty_oakk · July 2015

Lusty maid seems to be only viable occupation at this point

Kaide · July 2015

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Argonians are honestly my favorite race.

Aesthetically they look cool as hell and I love them to death....BUT........their racial passives are incredibly bad.

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Kaide · July 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

I haven't got that far into the Twitch stream yet. What did they remove from the existing Nord racials in order to give them more HP? Did they get rid of the cold resistance?

Beats me IDK why nords need changed to have more HP not like HP does much any way since it doesn't scale with anything. What @Kaide is saying is that so those who play nords can have more points into other stuff apparently but the thing is players can already fill the health gap with enchantments while they already spend all there points on magic and stamina cause those offer better defense and offense to health just offering defense. So as I said many times before to make these changes good and health good in general they need health to scale off something too and make some changes to HA that offers better defense with the more health you have such as reduce break free block ect ect. Like magic and LA go together MA and stamina too so health and HA should scale and work with one another plus it would allow more hybrid builds so to speak say some points in health and some in stamina and wearing a mix of HA and MA that allows defense and offense cause you have the defense powers of health and dodge.

This. I don't understand why Nords have a 2h weapon specialization...then only get defensive stat increases like hp

Forestd16b14_ESO · July 2015

@Kaide well each race has that specialization thing and lore wise nords are know for using giant 2 handed axes when in battle so that's my guess on why they got 2H spec and true we got def specs but my point stand how it doesn't really help if health doesn't scale with anything or how HA doesn't offer anything else to defense cept 20% reduce block and like 7% boost to HP that's really all the good HA does to MA and LA weapon power boost and reduce cost of skills cause as we all know burst damage rules PvP along with shield stacking and dodge rolling and with block no longer doing regen stamina HA is gonna find even less use in PvP. Cause I'm calling it now every one is gonna be using MA for dodge and sure it cost 33% more each use but you still can regen stamina while doing it unlike blocking.

Akavir_Sentinel · July 2015

As long as I don't lose my 6% damage mitigation on my Nord. I don't know why they re-introduced health as a racial for Nords. It was already a racial in the first place when ESO was released, but was removed later and replaced with damage mitigation. Now they are adding the health racial back in?

Junkogen · July 2015

Kaide wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

I hate ZOS. Out of all the races, I had to choose Argonian.

I just want to cuss the developers out. What a bunch of crap. They're just too damn lazy to give them something else. They took the laziest route possible to "fix" the Argonian passives. It's ridiculous.

Eat $%-@, ZOS.

Argonians are honestly my favorite race.

Aesthetically they look cool as hell and I love them to death....BUT........their racial passives are incredibly bad.

They know how bad they are. They're just too damn lazy to do anything about it. I wish they would just allow race changes so we could do their job for them and balance the damn game ourselves.

Ace_of_Destiny · July 2015

Kaide wrote: »

Racial Passive Update:

Khajiit = Higher melee crit % chance

Nord = more HP (Allows you to put points into other attributes)

Orc = plus 4% damage...minus 6% charge damage

Argonian..................*starts to laugh*....sorry guys...now for Argonian passives....

Argonian = More resources from drinking potions.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry I couldn't help myself. At least they can swim fast which is incredibly useful (sarcasm)

Argonian players reaction to the introduction of the new racials (skip to 4 minutes into the video to see him reading updates after dying several times in game):

[video]https://youtu.be/G2eIxscdG3s[/video]

Perfect example of the "pcmasterrace" right there in that video!

Acrolas · July 2015

Argonians need swim speed minus the potion boost (Aquatic Traveler), flat increased health and armor (Scaled Warrior), and chance to knock enemies off-balance (Reptilian Whiplash).

I don't see why they can't make good passives for Argonians, then balance them by removing them at night (Ectothermic Penalty). You can make them fun and a challenge.

Kaide · July 2015

Acrolas wrote: »

Argonians need swim speed minus the potion boost (Aquatic Traveler), flat increased health and armor (Scaled Warrior), and chance to knock enemies off-balance (Reptilian Whiplash).

I don't see why they can't make good passives for Argonians, then balance them by removing them at night (Ectothermic Penalty). You can make them fun and a challenge.

ZOS please hire this man!

Kaide · July 2015

Show Argonians some love ZOS

Don't give them drinking buffs and swimming buffs

Give them THICK SCALES (minus incoming damage)

or SLIPPERY DEVILS (increased dodge chance)

or WICKED TOUNGUE (increased spell casting speed)...because casters usually recite their spells. See what I did there?

or REGEN RENEGADE (increased health regen after being hit by attack)

or DUNMER SLAVE EVOLVED (increased resistance to fire damage)

dodgehopper_ESO · July 2015

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

As long as I don't lose my 6% damage mitigation on my Nord. I don't know why they re-introduced health as a racial for Nords. It was already a racial in the first place when ESO was released, but was removed later and replaced with damage mitigation. Now they are adding the health racial back in?

Easy does it. They're just upping the health from 3% to 6%. Nords already have 3. The issue is that an imperial ended up being more tanky despite Nords being 100% about resistance. This way at least Nords take the cake as a tanky race, while not being quite as aggressive as something like Redguard, Orc, Imperial, etc.

Personofsecrets · July 2015

Everyone thought that the health regen passive was sure to go. It really should for something else.

AaronLannister · July 2015

nvm

The_Sadist · July 2015

Another thread by @Kaide regarding racials, colour me surprised!

But seriously, the passive does need to be re-worked, as discussed in several other threads.

Malnutrition · July 2015

Ace-2112 wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

Racial Passive Update:

Khajiit = Higher melee crit % chance

Nord = more HP (Allows you to put points into other attributes)

Orc = plus 4% damage...minus 6% charge damage

Argonian..................*starts to laugh*....sorry guys...now for Argonian passives....

Argonian = More resources from drinking potions.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry I couldn't help myself. At least they can swim fast which is incredibly useful (sarcasm)

Argonian players reaction to the introduction of the new racials (skip to 4 minutes into the video to see him reading updates after dying several times in game):

[video]https://youtu.be/G2eIxscdG3s[/video]

Perfect example of the "pcmasterrace" right there in that video!

I've seen someone go into a rage and smash their PlayStation remote to pieces while screaming incoherent curse words and then rush forward and punch the TV screen. I witnessed it in person. Anyone can be an idiot like the kid in the video.

Ace_of_Destiny · July 2015

Malnutrition wrote: »

Ace-2112 wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

Racial Passive Update:

Khajiit = Higher melee crit % chance

Nord = more HP (Allows you to put points into other attributes)

Orc = plus 4% damage...minus 6% charge damage

Argonian..................*starts to laugh*....sorry guys...now for Argonian passives....

Argonian = More resources from drinking potions.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry I couldn't help myself. At least they can swim fast which is incredibly useful (sarcasm)

Argonian players reaction to the introduction of the new racials (skip to 4 minutes into the video to see him reading updates after dying several times in game):

[video]https://youtu.be/G2eIxscdG3s[/video]

Perfect example of the "pcmasterrace" right there in that video!

I've seen someone go into a rage and smash their PlayStation remote to pieces while screaming incoherent curse words and then rush forward and punch the TV screen. I witnessed it in person. Anyone can be an idiot like the kid in the video, and your post just gained you a membership to the club.

I know, Mate.
I used to be a PC gamer...and killed my fair share of keyboards.
And, since converting to consoles...have thrown my fair share of controllers.

I just wanted to "poke the bear".

JacksonCarter13 · July 2015

BUFF ORC MORE!!!!

Malnutrition · July 2015

Ace-2112 wrote: »

Malnutrition wrote: »

Ace-2112 wrote: »

Kaide wrote: »

Racial Passive Update:

Khajiit = Higher melee crit % chance

Nord = more HP (Allows you to put points into other attributes)

Orc = plus 4% damage...minus 6% charge damage

Argonian..................*starts to laugh*....sorry guys...now for Argonian passives....

Argonian = More resources from drinking potions.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....sorry I couldn't help myself. At least they can swim fast which is incredibly useful (sarcasm)

Argonian players reaction to the introduction of the new racials (skip to 4 minutes into the video to see him reading updates after dying several times in game):

[video]https://youtu.be/G2eIxscdG3s[/video]

Perfect example of the "pcmasterrace" right there in that video!

I've seen someone go into a rage and smash their PlayStation remote to pieces while screaming incoherent curse words and then rush forward and punch the TV screen. I witnessed it in person. Anyone can be an idiot like the kid in the video, and your post just gained you a membership to the club.

I know, Mate.
I used to be a PC gamer...and killed my fair share of keyboards.
And, since converting to consoles...have thrown my fair share of controllers.

I just wanted to "poke the bear".

Hey, stop it with all that poking! Haha, I've done my fair share of game-raging as well, from console to PC. My poor keyboards during the DAoC Mordred days. That was probably me at my worst.

Bromburak · July 2015

Argonians should get a racial advantage with Dark Brotherhood, at least this would make you feel being more connected to the Lore Assasin background as an argonian.

Elektrakosh · July 2015

Looks like my Argonian will be shelved until this gets fixed.

If it ever gets fixed.

AnAngryGinger · July 2015

I play my Argonian regardless. #fightthepower

Junkogen · July 2015

Again, they obviously didn't really want to change anything. They just worked with what was already there. Since there isn't much to work with for Argonian passives, we got what we got.

I've said it before, be an Argonian to be an Argonian, but the passives will always be the worst. The devs won't take the time to reprogram a new passive at this point. They'll say that they want to preserve the uniqueness and all that nonsense, but really they just don't want to spend any more time on designing passives. Some race had to be the worst and the beast races, especially Argonians, got that distinction.

Junkogen · July 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

Looks like my Argonian will be shelved until this gets fixed.

If it ever gets fixed.

It will never get fixed because they don't think anything is broken.