Play with other Alliance members announced!

Marques · July 2015

Hello everyone.

Yesterday on QuakeCon 2015 during the live panel from Bethesda (also transmitted live on Twitch) they announced that they are working on allowing characters to play with members of different alliances. They stated that this will start being implemented in dungeons but that it will grow to other content as well. This sounds like a pretty interesting change and beneficial to the evolution of the game but I'm curious as how it will be implemented.

Does this mean that a character of one alliance will be allowed to PvE with members of other alliances in their native areas and do such content? How will this work with the current system where players are allowed to go through the campaigns of the other two alliances in veteran ranks?

Looking forward to your input.

VoidBlue · July 2015

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Ysne58 · July 2015

In addition to dungeons, two logical places to allow cross alliance co-op play are Coldharbour and Craglorn. They start adding this kind of change, that might be enough to get me to re sub again.

Marques · July 2015

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Actually it's stated in a very straightforward way that it will start as dungeons and they want it to expand into PvE.
It would be really nice to have some input from the developers concerning this or at least confirming the extent of those intended changes.

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Sausage · July 2015

All guilds are already cross-faction and Imperial Edition let players play any race in any alliance. Sure its coming. This was mainly done because of faster queue times and they werent sure if one alliance is so underdog, they need to take heavy action against it. Thats one of my concern, as Faction Pride is definitely fading fast, I think we really need that each alliance has own types of Castles and Siege weapons at least. Actually this opens pretty fun new opportunities.

Sausage · July 2015

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Think about it, theres going to be turncoats and loyalist in each alliance, they can make fun Faction Pride system than ever, and not to mention if things go very bad, one alliance start to die, they can easily fix it.

strikeback1247 · July 2015

I would love to run pledges and trials with my guildies from other factions! I'm really looking forward to this update

Korah_Eaglecry · July 2015

Marques wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Actually it's stated in a very straightforward way that it will start as dungeons and they want it to expand into PvE.
It would be really nice to have some input from the developers concerning this or at least confirming the extent of those intended changes.

Youre new here. They say a lot of things in this manner only to do half of what they said. This upcoming late fall will be a year since they spoke of removing VR ranks....Yesterday at Quakecon they said they still intend on removing them but so far there has been absolutely no gameplan laid out.

When it comes to ZOS and promises like this. Dont hold your breath.

PoseidonEvil · July 2015

this sounds exciting. and almost everyone seems to approve too lol

Violynne · July 2015

Marques wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Actually it's stated in a very straightforward way that it will start as dungeons and they want it to expand into PvE.

This explains why Veteran Ranks are on the chopping block.

Seems to me ZoS is going code digging to fix the limitations on quest sharing, which will be very nice. Hmm... now I wonder if shops will also be level specific, so we don't have to run to a different area to by glyphs matching our armor/weapon level.

Thymos · July 2015

Sausage wrote: »

All guilds are already cross-faction and Imperial Edition let players play any race in any alliance. Sure its coming. This was mainly done because of faster queue times and they werent sure if one alliance is so underdog, they need to take heavy action against it. Thats one of my concern, as Faction Pride is definitely fading fast, I think we really need that each alliance has own types of Castles and Siege weapons at least. Actually this opens pretty fun new opportunities.

@Sausage Imperial edition allows you to make an Imperial to be placed in any faction. You have to buy the adventurer's pack to get the any race in any alliance, or have pre-ordered the PC version when it first launched.

Fruitmass · July 2015

Well this is good news if they follow through with it. I kinda feel faction should never have mattered with pve. With pvp certainly but not pve. Your the Vestige, your primary goal is to stop Molag Bal and end the plane meld. Going to each faction, solving their problems, convincing their leaders it's in their best interest to help you and uniting the nations of Tamriel should have been the normal course of things rather than doing the whole Cadwell's silver/gold business.

Rev Rielle · July 2015

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Marques wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Actually it's stated in a very straightforward way that it will start as dungeons and they want it to expand into PvE.
It would be really nice to have some input from the developers concerning this or at least confirming the extent of those intended changes.

Youre new here. They say a lot of things in this manner only to do half of what they said. This upcoming late fall will be a year since they spoke of removing VR ranks....Yesterday at Quakecon they said they still intend on removing them but so far there has been absolutely no gameplan laid out.

When it comes to ZOS and promises like this. Dont hold your breath.

Regarding Veteran Rank removal it was said we can expect it some time after Orsinium is released.

starkerealm · July 2015

Ysne58 wrote: »

In addition to dungeons, two logical places to allow cross alliance co-op play are Coldharbour and Craglorn. They start adding this kind of change, that might be enough to get me to re sub again.

The other possibility is that the Cadwell's zones will be normalized.

GreySix · July 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

Ysne58 wrote: »

In addition to dungeons, two logical places to allow cross alliance co-op play are Coldharbour and Craglorn. They start adding this kind of change, that might be enough to get me to re sub again.

The other possibility is that the Cadwell's zones will be normalized.

Would make sense to tie in Cadwell's zones to the main story, pushing Molag Bal to the end of silver and gold. Enable cross-alliance play ... you know, for the sake of beating Molag Bal and all that.

Won't see it though.

starkerealm · July 2015

GreySix wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ysne58 wrote: »

In addition to dungeons, two logical places to allow cross alliance co-op play are Coldharbour and Craglorn. They start adding this kind of change, that might be enough to get me to re sub again.

The other possibility is that the Cadwell's zones will be normalized.

Would make sense to tie in Cadwell's zones to the main story, pushing Molag Bal to the end of silver and gold. Enable cross-alliance play ... you know, for the sake of beating Molag Bal and all that.

Won't see it though.

No, I meant having the vet versions shared with the other faction that has that zone as a vet zone. So, Dominion shares Pact territory with Cov, Cov shares Dom territory with Pact, that setup. Between the removal of vet ranks, and the desire to open zones up to cross faction... this one is just this side of possible.

GreySix · July 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Ysne58 wrote: »

In addition to dungeons, two logical places to allow cross alliance co-op play are Coldharbour and Craglorn. They start adding this kind of change, that might be enough to get me to re sub again.

The other possibility is that the Cadwell's zones will be normalized.

Would make sense to tie in Cadwell's zones to the main story, pushing Molag Bal to the end of silver and gold. Enable cross-alliance play ... you know, for the sake of beating Molag Bal and all that.

Won't see it though.

No, I meant having the vet versions shared with the other faction that has that zone as a vet zone. So, Dominion shares Pact territory with Cov, Cov shares Dom territory with Pact, that setup. Between the removal of vet ranks, and the desire to open zones up to cross faction... this one is just this side of possible.

Yeah, know what you meant.

Modified it, to make sense of the currently inane "endgame" that is then followed by Sir Pot-on-Head's quests.

snowmanflvb14_ESO · July 2015

So the beginning of the end approaches.

usrevenge · July 2015

anything that makes the group finder have a higher chance of not wasting hours of my time to find a group is good imo.

Korah_Eaglecry · July 2015

Rev Rielle wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Marques wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Actually it's stated in a very straightforward way that it will start as dungeons and they want it to expand into PvE.
It would be really nice to have some input from the developers concerning this or at least confirming the extent of those intended changes.

Youre new here. They say a lot of things in this manner only to do half of what they said. This upcoming late fall will be a year since they spoke of removing VR ranks....Yesterday at Quakecon they said they still intend on removing them but so far there has been absolutely no gameplan laid out.

When it comes to ZOS and promises like this. Dont hold your breath.

Regarding Veteran Rank removal it was said we can expect it some time after Orsinium is released.

Ill believe it when I see it. Theyve said a lot of things that they have yet to deliver on. It makes no sense that they would add two more Vet Levels if they intend to rip them out of the game in 6+ months.

NDwarf · July 2015

Maaaaan PC players love to crush new console players dreams. We're all doe eyed and excited about ESO announcements while PC players are like "nope, soon (tm)"

Aerathnor · July 2015

Thymos wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

All guilds are already cross-faction and Imperial Edition let players play any race in any alliance. Sure its coming. This was mainly done because of faster queue times and they werent sure if one alliance is so underdog, they need to take heavy action against it. Thats one of my concern, as Faction Pride is definitely fading fast, I think we really need that each alliance has own types of Castles and Siege weapons at least. Actually this opens pretty fun new opportunities.

@Sausage Imperial edition allows you to make an Imperial to be placed in any faction. You have to buy the adventurer's pack to get the any race in any alliance, or have pre-ordered the PC version when it first launched.

Console preorders got it as well, not that that is all that important a distinction.

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2015

I hope you can set the group finder so that you only get grouped with people from your alliance. I know, it's a bit old fashioned, but I'm proud of my alliance and don't want to fight together with people that might have ganked me 5 minutes ago.

JamilaRaj · July 2015

I could kinda understand cross-faction dungeons assuming it would be possible to stab Pact or Dominion dogs in their backs in dark corners of said dungeons, but seriously, I, for one, abhor this new traitorous feature!

starkerealm · July 2015

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I could kinda understand cross-faction dungeons assuming it would be possible to stab Pact or Dominion dogs in their backs in dark corners of said dungeons, but seriously, I, for one, abhor this new traitorous feature!

The guilds are apolitical. Hell, the undaunted are barely aware of the war going on, they're too busy doing stupid things to care about Cyrodiil.

Imdrefan · July 2015

NDwarf wrote: »

Maaaaan PC players love to crush new console players dreams. We're all doe eyed and excited about ESO announcements while PC players are like "nope, soon (tm)"

A year and a bit of terrible PR can leave anyone jaded.

JamilaRaj · July 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I could kinda understand cross-faction dungeons assuming it would be possible to stab Pact or Dominion dogs in their backs in dark corners of said dungeons, but seriously, I, for one, abhor this new traitorous feature!

The guilds are apolitical. Hell, the undaunted are barely aware of the war going on, they're too busy doing stupid things to care about Cyrodiil.

Apoliticals, pacifists, I do not care what nicknames traitors use.
Once I take the throne and bring about Great Socialist People's/Vampiric Redguard Jamahiriya, I will have these so called Undaunted whipped. Perhaps that will make them pay attention to what is going on.

UrQuan · July 2015

JamilaRaj wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

I could kinda understand cross-faction dungeons assuming it would be possible to stab Pact or Dominion dogs in their backs in dark corners of said dungeons, but seriously, I, for one, abhor this new traitorous feature!

The guilds are apolitical. Hell, the undaunted are barely aware of the war going on, they're too busy doing stupid things to care about Cyrodiil.

Apoliticals, pacifists, I do not care what nicknames traitors use.
Once I take the throne and bring about Great Socialist People's/Vampiric Redguard Jamahiriya, I will have these so called Undaunted whipped. Perhaps that will make them pay attention to what is going on.

Ah, I see, so you must have refused to do any of the Coldharbour content because it would have made you a traitor to your alliance, working with fellow guild members from other alliances.

jluchau · July 2015

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

in the video he says "We are going to start with dungeons..." then he says "We're not going to stop there, we are going to take this much wider..."

Rev Rielle · July 2015

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Rev Rielle wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Marques wrote: »

VoidBlue wrote: »

i dont think it will grow to other content. i think it will stay dungeon only.

Actually it's stated in a very straightforward way that it will start as dungeons and they want it to expand into PvE.
It would be really nice to have some input from the developers concerning this or at least confirming the extent of those intended changes.

Youre new here. They say a lot of things in this manner only to do half of what they said. This upcoming late fall will be a year since they spoke of removing VR ranks....Yesterday at Quakecon they said they still intend on removing them but so far there has been absolutely no gameplan laid out.

When it comes to ZOS and promises like this. Dont hold your breath.

Regarding Veteran Rank removal it was said we can expect it some time after Orsinium is released.

Ill believe it when I see it. Theyve said a lot of things that they have yet to deliver on. It makes no sense that they would add two more Vet Levels if they intend to rip them out of the game in 6+ months.

No, it doesn't, but the alternative was to not release any new content until they worked out the complementary system for when they're removed. So I think releasing the content was the lesser of two evils.

I think everyone is very aware of Zenimax's track record regarding actions and words, so yes, we will see. That being said, it is the first time to knowledge we've been given any idea of a rough timeline regarding the Veteran Rank removal., so that is progress, perhaps. Time will tell.